Re: [Emc-users] 3D scanner !!!???

2013-11-29 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Thu, 28 Nov 2013 22:40:23 +0100, you wrote: > >Le 2013-11-28 03:55, a k a écrit : >> how to convert STL file into other useful format? >> > >I know several tools able to do that: >- CamBam >- Deskproto >- BobCAD-CAM >- Mecsoft FreeMill >- Vectric Cut3D Problem with a lot of 3D scanner produced

Re: [Emc-users] 3D scanner !!!???

2013-11-28 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On 11/28/2013 3:29 AM, andy pugh wrote: > How about free? > http://www.123dapp.com/catch > > (note, I haven't actually got this to work on my phone) Still no Android version. -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they

Re: [Emc-users] 3D scanner !!!???

2013-11-28 Thread Frederic RIBLE
Le 2013-11-28 03:55, a k a écrit : > how to convert STL file into other useful format? > I know several tools able to do that: - CamBam - Deskproto - BobCAD-CAM - Mecsoft FreeMill - Vectric Cut3D CamBam is not able to handle four axis easily (you can do indexed, but that is tricky), but the pri

Re: [Emc-users] 3D scanner !!!???

2013-11-28 Thread andy pugh
How about free? http://www.123dapp.com/catch (note, I haven't actually got this to work on my phone) -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before

Re: [Emc-users] 3D scanner !!!???

2013-11-28 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On 11/27/2013 8:28 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Wednesday 27 November 2013 22:24:46 a k did opine: > >> hi >> i found new 3d scanner http://cubify.com/sense/ >> problem is that file output STL from that scanner. > > That is not its only problem, very low resolution, 240 wide by 320 high is > the re

Re: [Emc-users] 3D scanner !!!???

2013-11-27 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 27 November 2013 22:24:46 a k did opine: > hi > i found new 3d scanner http://cubify.com/sense/ > problem is that file output STL from that scanner. That is not its only problem, very low resolution, 240 wide by 320 high is the real turnoff for me. That is only very slightly better

[Emc-users] 3D scanner !!!???

2013-11-27 Thread a k
hi i found new 3d scanner http://cubify.com/sense/ problem is that file output STL from that scanner. i know that ---Synergy does not have surface cutting routines for STL objects. my cad/cam is weber sys. how to convert STL file into other useful format? does MasterCam able to use STL model to ge

Re: [Emc-users] 3d scanner

2013-06-13 Thread andy pugh
On 13 June 2013 17:20, Ted Hyde wrote: > One of the biggest challenges I've had with the arm is mounting - I've > sat in on demos (since Faro is about an hour north of me), and I see > them pulling out a tripod and hitting dead-zero bulls-eyes every time. I have mapped out locations of acellerom

[Emc-users] 3d scanner

2013-06-13 Thread Ted Hyde
On 6/13/2013 11:02 AM, emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote: > boeing and lockheed only buy off on the iges files , protocol demands they > be checked against the iges file period . not a " good master" the reason > being is a good master is simply a part that is "in tolerance " and stacku

Re: [Emc-users] 3d scanner

2013-06-13 Thread jeremy youngs
I consider myself a comfortable coder, but even I wouldn't want the task of that - I'd rather have a series of "golden samples" each stage along the way just to do direct comparisons to. boeing and lockheed only buy off on the iges files , protocol demands they be checked against the iges file

[Emc-users] 3d scanner

2013-06-13 Thread Ted Hyde
My point about scanning multiple "known good masters" was that Aram's stated intent was to correct machining [on the fly] - an Iges (or any other neutral format) from a modeler would [typically] give you the intended finished part, not something partially complete. I'm following this up more as

Re: [Emc-users] 3d scanner

2013-06-12 Thread jeremy youngs
the above mentioned faro arm compares the product to the iges file and verifies . these are nice the one i used was 17000 out of the box . they are absolutely necessary for 5 axis swarfed surfaces on airframe parts . as to point cloud to parametric solid i have no idea how to do that so i will take

Re: [Emc-users] 3d scanner

2013-06-12 Thread andy pugh
On 12 June 2013 17:15, John Alexander Stewart wrote: >> Going from a point-cloud to a parametric solid is not even slightly easy. > It's not that hard. In my Android App (for instance) I take STL vertices, > group them, then recreate triangles; it makes rendering much faster, and > lighting/text

Re: [Emc-users] 3d scanner

2013-06-12 Thread John Alexander Stewart
Andy; On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 10:50 AM, andy pugh wrote: > Going from a point-cloud to a parametric solid is not even slightly easy. > It's not that hard. In my Android App (for instance) I take STL vertices, group them, then recreate triangles; it makes rendering much faster, and lighting/text

Re: [Emc-users] 3d scanner

2013-06-12 Thread doug metzler
I'm interested in whether you could use a leap for this. https://leapmotion.com/product I am still trying to get ahold of one :-) DougM On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 1:42 AM, Watier Yves wrote: > HI, > > My 2ct, when I tried 2 years ago to have a reliable 3d scanner for > cheap, I tried the line

Re: [Emc-users] 3d scanner

2013-06-12 Thread andy pugh
On 12 June 2013 13:52, jeremy youngs wrote: > not exactly just compare it to an iges file that will never change . or > other parametric solid Going from a point-cloud to a parametric solid is not even slightly easy. However, in this case I guess that you could create a virtual point-cloud from

Re: [Emc-users] 3d scanner

2013-06-12 Thread Steve Stallings
> -Original Message- > From: Stuart Stevenson [mailto:stus...@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 9:05 AM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 3d scanner > > this is what we need to be working toward :) > > http://

Re: [Emc-users] 3d scanner

2013-06-12 Thread Stuart Stevenson
this is what we need to be working toward :) http://www.faro.com/en-us/products/metrology/measuring-arm-faro-scanarm/overview On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 7:53 AM, jeremy youngs wrote: > sorry sent before finished , i agree with all of the other statements > though > > > > On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 8

Re: [Emc-users] 3d scanner

2013-06-12 Thread jeremy youngs
sorry sent before finished , i agree with all of the other statements though On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 8:52 AM, jeremy youngs wrote: > ted said > > Even if it did, one would have to scan a "known-good-master" at each > step of the production for the test scan to reference against. If you > want

Re: [Emc-users] 3d scanner

2013-06-12 Thread jeremy youngs
ted said Even if it did, one would have to scan a "known-good-master" at each step of the production for the test scan to reference against. If you want accuracy, measuring scale on a single volumetric scan is near impossible. You need to have many angles and views stitched together to see past o

[Emc-users] 3d scanner

2013-06-12 Thread Ted Hyde
In regards to a depth sensor, there's a good change Aram is referring to a Kinect or the Asus Xtion (Pro Live). There's been plenty of hacker-friendly attempts for "point-n-shoot" capture solutions using these over the years, adding to the laser-line, and distributed-light methods. The Xtion un

Re: [Emc-users] 3d scanner

2013-06-12 Thread Watier Yves
HI, My 2ct, when I tried 2 years ago to have a reliable 3d scanner for cheap, I tried the line laser option, cost nothing (a laser line is 5$ on ebay, and I recycle a good webcam). My conclusion were that the raw scan need a lot of cleaning before having anything useful for milling. Maybe it impro

Re: [Emc-users] 3d scanner

2013-06-12 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- On Tue, 6/11/13, a k wrote: > i want to talk about 3d laser scanner. > this is new technology that can be add to EMC2 > Big picture is to generate "intelligent" milling machine > machine tool. > With 3d scanner machine tool can see inspect part that it > cutting, analyze make correction and r

Re: [Emc-users] 3d scanner

2013-06-12 Thread Javier Ros
Can you point us to such a $500 depth sensor?. Thanks, Javier On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 4:34 AM, jeremy youngs wrote: > why not just probe check the technology is already mature. not tryin to > disuade just sayin i mean if you are developing it great please share > in the wiki > > > > On

Re: [Emc-users] 3d scanner

2013-06-11 Thread jeremy youngs
why not just probe check the technology is already mature. not tryin to disuade just sayin i mean if you are developing it great please share in the wiki On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 9:53 PM, a k wrote: > Hi > i want to talk about 3d laser scanner. > this is new technology that can be add to

[Emc-users] 3d scanner

2013-06-11 Thread a k
Hi i want to talk about 3d laser scanner. this is new technology that can be add to EMC2 Big picture is to generate "intelligent" milling machine machine tool. With 3d scanner machine tool can see inspect part that it cutting, analyze make correction and recut, Depth sensor cost around $500 and re