Re: [Emc-users] Cutting plastic film

2020-07-25 Thread Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users
Don't know if this guy is still around but he had a method of resharpening carbide end mills where they could cut really hard materials, like metal files. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCN6hhXdNcy00iIp6Hfwo29A On Saturday, July 25, 2020, 1:46:25 AM MDT, andrew beck wrote: You can buy

Re: [Emc-users] Cutting plastic film

2020-07-25 Thread Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users
Corner turning with a drag knife can be done by raising the knife until the point is just into the material. Then sweep an arc with a radius equal to the knife point offset. For inside corners that's the way to do it. On outside corners that method works or you can have it go past the end then

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2020-07-25 Thread N
Here is cutting machines in action https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-67lKePbcQ somewhere from one third to half way thru, also other places using a knife as someone suggested, this one need a spindle encoder. Guess this is the technology for small series, either do myself buying tool to my

Re: [Emc-users] Cutting plastic film

2020-07-25 Thread Glenn Edwards
I do not understand all of your email, but let me try to respond. You describe a die-cutting method called kiss-cutting in which the cut does not go through all the layers of a label, for instance. These are usually done on presses, such as a clam-shell press, and using steel-rule dies. For a

Re: [Emc-users] Cutting plastic film

2020-07-25 Thread N
Otherwise I better of find someone locally, have seen some plotters I think do something similar, it is common stickers are cut half way thru and thought maybe someone know what kind of tool is used to this kind of things so I could the machine on floor 2-3 meters behind me? If you are close

Re: [Emc-users] Cutting plastic film

2020-07-25 Thread Chris Albertson
Notice the tip of the blade is not on the centerline of the tool holder and the offset moves to trail the direction of movement. As I said, you will have to think about how to make corners On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 6:05 PM andy pugh wrote: > On Sat, 25 Jul 2020 at 01:48, Matthew Herd wrote: > >

Re: [Emc-users] Cutting plastic film

2020-07-25 Thread Thomas J Powderly
take a look at steel rule dies they are cheap ( relative term ) and not difficult to make ( again relative) you can get it made custom using online services. The ejector is a rubber-like pad surrounding the rule tomp On 7/25/20 6:09 PM, andy pugh wrote: On Sat, 25 Jul 2020 at 12:05, N

Re: [Emc-users] Cutting plastic film

2020-07-25 Thread Glenn Edwards
If you do not want to invest in tooling or machines or learning something new, there is a prototype die-cutting service that can score plastic sheets so that you can follow-up with scissors. Full -disclosure it is my company (see below). We have done this for clothing designers by scoring

Re: [Emc-users] Cutting plastic film

2020-07-25 Thread N
> Depending on the plastic I'd first look at laser for this application. > Don't laser PVC. PE and PP can be difficult unless it is very thin. > > Drag or tangential knife would be my second choice. You'll need some way > to hold the sheet down. Simply taping down the edges may work. For >

Re: [Emc-users] Cutting plastic film

2020-07-25 Thread Marcus Bowman
On 25 Jul 2020, at 08:43, andrew beck wrote: > single flute > router cutters for like 3usd.Just trying to help fellow > linuxcnc guys Thanks. That's really useful to know. At around 80USD for a 12mm cutter locally, this is a source I will try, especially when you are saying you have

Re: [Emc-users] Cutting plastic film

2020-07-25 Thread Les Newell
Depending on the plastic I'd first look at laser for this application. Don't laser PVC. PE and PP can be difficult unless it is very thin. Drag or tangential knife would be my second choice. You'll need some way to hold the sheet down. Simply taping down the edges may work. For thinner more

Re: [Emc-users] Cutting plastic film

2020-07-25 Thread N
> On Sat, 25 Jul 2020 at 12:05, N wrote: > > > Square outline with four or six square holes is the most important but it > > might be I want to cover another surface with slighlty more complicated > > form and mor holes. Need only four of them right now for prototypes and > > maybe 30-40

Re: [Emc-users] Cutting plastic film

2020-07-25 Thread Bruce Layne
While I wouldn't want to discourage anyone from getting a CNC router or laser, as a little exercise in outside the box thinking, 3D printing these insulator sheets would be a fairly trivial exercise.  I sometimes print first layer calibration test squares on a flat glass bed.  Dial in the bed

Re: [Emc-users] Cutting plastic film

2020-07-25 Thread andy pugh
On Sat, 25 Jul 2020 at 12:05, N wrote: > Square outline with four or six square holes is the most important but it > might be I want to cover another surface with slighlty more complicated form > and mor holes. Need only four of them right now for prototypes and maybe > 30-40 later on. Laser

Re: [Emc-users] Cutting plastic film

2020-07-25 Thread N
> On Sat, 25 Jul 2020 at 09:10, N wrote: > > > Need to cut plastic films for electrical isolation. > > What sort of shapes? How many pieces a day and in total? Square outline with four or six square holes is the most important but it might be I want to cover another surface with slighlty more

Re: [Emc-users] Cutting plastic film

2020-07-25 Thread andy pugh
On Sat, 25 Jul 2020 at 09:10, N wrote: > Need to cut plastic films for electrical isolation. What sort of shapes? How many pieces a day and in total? -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and

Re: [Emc-users] Cutting plastic film

2020-07-25 Thread N
> On Sat, 25 Jul 2020 at 01:48, Matthew Herd wrote: > > > > I did some reading. Here’s a much cheaper one. > > https://www.amazon.com/Carbide-Housing-Silhouette-Machines-Portrait/dp/B07LBN6Y89 > > Yes, that is also in pen-plotter format. Have an engraver and a CNC machine, engraver spindle

Re: [Emc-users] Cutting plastic film

2020-07-25 Thread andrew beck
You can buy your router bits from China if you want. I bring in probably 15k usd per year. My supplier sells ultra sharp endmills or single flute router cutters for like 3usd. Often for routers and custom form tools they are better than the branded stuff here that costs 30 nzd. Anyway just

Re: [Emc-users] Cutting plastic film

2020-07-25 Thread Marcus Bowman
I bought a cheap drag knife some time ago, from a far off land, but I have not yet used it, because: (a) it does need routines for turning corners, and (b) upon inspection, I decided that a critical factor is likely to be the ability of the knife to swivel very freely; and this cheap one didn't.

Re: [Emc-users] Cutting plastic film

2020-07-24 Thread andy pugh
On Sat, 25 Jul 2020 at 01:48, Matthew Herd wrote: > > I did some reading. Here’s a much cheaper one. > https://www.amazon.com/Carbide-Housing-Silhouette-Machines-Portrait/dp/B07LBN6Y89 Yes, that is also in pen-plotter format. -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment

Re: [Emc-users] Cutting plastic film

2020-07-24 Thread Chris Albertson
The think about a drag knife is that you have to use special path planning for corners to make the knife swivel. These knives are mostly used in the sign-making industry to cut colored vinyl. Either the vinyl makes the letters of a stencil for paint. Many of these knives are designed to

Re: [Emc-users] Cutting plastic film

2020-07-24 Thread Matthew Herd
I did some reading. Here’s a much cheaper one.

Re: [Emc-users] Cutting plastic film

2020-07-24 Thread andy pugh
On Sat, 25 Jul 2020 at 00:55, N wrote: > > https://www.amazon.com/Dog-River-Tools-Knife-Cutter/dp/B085BF98Z9 > Yes that might be the correct tool. That's a very expensive one. I bought a carbide one for a few quid, for mounting in a flatbed plotter. -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a

Re: [Emc-users] Cutting plastic film

2020-07-24 Thread N
> Perhaps a drag knife? > > https://www.amazon.com/Dog-River-Tools-Knife-Cutter/dp/B085BF98Z9/ref=asc_df_B085BF98Z9/?tag=bingshoppinga-20=df0===oe=cpla-4584001427192206=1 > >

Re: [Emc-users] Cutting plastic film

2020-07-24 Thread Matthew Herd
Perhaps a drag knife? https://www.amazon.com/Dog-River-Tools-Knife-Cutter/dp/B085BF98Z9/ref=asc_df_B085BF98Z9/?tag=bingshoppinga-20=df0===oe=cpla-4584001427192206=1

Re: [Emc-users] Cutting plastic film

2020-07-24 Thread Andy Pugh
> On 25 Jul 2020, at 00:20, N wrote: > > Thin thickness OH film or maybe a little bit thicker. Maybe drag-knife if you can hold it down. Otherwise laser cutter. Or, die cutting, depending on quantities. ___ Emc-users mailing list

[Emc-users] Cutting plastic film

2020-07-24 Thread N
Anybody here know about a suitable tool or similar to cut plastic sheets? Thin thickness OH film or maybe a little bit thicker. ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users