Re: [Emc-users] Engraving direction question

2015-07-05 Thread Marcus Bowman
On 4 Jul 2015, at 22:50, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Saturday 04 July 2015 14:41:40 Marcus Bowman wrote: >> On 4 Jul 2015, at 01:28, Gene Heskett wrote: >>> On Friday 03 July 2015 20:19:09 Bertho Stultiens wrote: On 07/04/2015 01:48 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: >> If we assume a mill with zero b

Re: [Emc-users] Engraving direction question

2015-07-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 04 July 2015 14:41:40 Marcus Bowman wrote: > On 4 Jul 2015, at 01:28, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Friday 03 July 2015 20:19:09 Bertho Stultiens wrote: > >> On 07/04/2015 01:48 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > If we assume a mill with zero backlash and spindle-speed very > much larger

Re: [Emc-users] Engraving direction question

2015-07-04 Thread Marcus Bowman
On 4 Jul 2015, at 01:28, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 03 July 2015 20:19:09 Bertho Stultiens wrote: >> On 07/04/2015 01:48 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: If we assume a mill with zero backlash and spindle-speed very much larger than the feed-rate, would you still care or be careful about >>

Re: [Emc-users] Engraving direction question

2015-07-04 Thread Marcus Bowman
On 4 Jul 2015, at 01:13, Bertho Stultiens wrote: > On 07/04/2015 01:54 AM, Stephen Dubovsky wrote: >> If you look at something like Vectric's V-carve Pro it does the faster >> no-lift case. I suspect the high-end Aspire tool does the same since they >> are based on the same code base. For somet

Re: [Emc-users] Engraving direction question

2015-07-04 Thread Bertho Stultiens
On 07/04/2015 12:52 AM, andy pugh wrote: > On 3 July 2015 at 23:43, Bertho Stultiens wrote: >> Well, not really as a flag. The strokes are a the primary part of the >> font-definition. It would mean to create an alternative version of the >> font face. > > I was just about to suggest that. Hershe

Re: [Emc-users] Engraving direction question

2015-07-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 03 July 2015 20:39:39 Bertho Stultiens wrote: > On 07/04/2015 02:28 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > If we assume a mill with zero backlash and spindle-speed very > much larger than the feed-rate, would you still care or be > careful about direction? > >>> > >>> Call me a picky ol

Re: [Emc-users] Engraving direction question

2015-07-03 Thread Bertho Stultiens
On 07/04/2015 02:28 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: If we assume a mill with zero backlash and spindle-speed very much larger than the feed-rate, would you still care or be careful about direction? >>> >>> Call me a picky old fart, >> >> I would not dare call you picky. > > Oh? why not?

Re: [Emc-users] Engraving direction question

2015-07-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 03 July 2015 20:19:09 Bertho Stultiens wrote: > On 07/04/2015 01:48 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> If we assume a mill with zero backlash and spindle-speed very much > >> larger than the feed-rate, would you still care or be careful about > >> direction? > > > > Call me a picky old fart, >

Re: [Emc-users] Engraving direction question

2015-07-03 Thread Bertho Stultiens
On 07/04/2015 01:48 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: >> If we assume a mill with zero backlash and spindle-speed very much >> larger than the feed-rate, would you still care or be careful about >> direction? > > Call me a picky old fart, I would not dare call you picky. The other part I have no comment. ;

Re: [Emc-users] Engraving direction question

2015-07-03 Thread Bertho Stultiens
On 07/04/2015 01:54 AM, Stephen Dubovsky wrote: > If you look at something like Vectric's V-carve Pro it does the faster > no-lift case. I suspect the high-end Aspire tool does the same since they > are based on the same code base. For something like an A they don't even > lift to go back a littl

Re: [Emc-users] Engraving direction question

2015-07-03 Thread Stephen Dubovsky
If you look at something like Vectric's V-carve Pro it does the faster no-lift case. I suspect the high-end Aspire tool does the same since they are based on the same code base. For something like an A they don't even lift to go back a little to get to the cross bar. And its geared towards wood

Re: [Emc-users] Engraving direction question

2015-07-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 03 July 2015 19:32:08 Bertho Stultiens wrote: > On 07/04/2015 01:06 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> What is the experience of the people here? What would be > >> preferable? A quick (case 1) path or a directionally consistent > >> path (case 2)? > > > > If you see more than a nearly invisi

Re: [Emc-users] Engraving direction question

2015-07-03 Thread Bertho Stultiens
On 07/04/2015 01:06 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: >> What is the experience of the people here? What would be preferable? A >> quick (case 1) path or a directionally consistent path (case 2)? > > If you see more than a nearly invisible artifact using the first method, > then it is time to tweak the bac

Re: [Emc-users] Engraving direction question

2015-07-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 03 July 2015 17:38:13 Bertho Stultiens wrote: > Hi all, > > While porting the Hershey fonts for engraving it occurred to me that > they are very heavy in pen-up/down movements because many strokes are > partials. There is plenty of room for optimization, reducing the rapid > moves by abou

Re: [Emc-users] Engraving direction question

2015-07-03 Thread andy pugh
On 3 July 2015 at 23:43, Bertho Stultiens wrote: > Well, not really as a flag. The strokes are a the primary part of the > font-definition. It would mean to create an alternative version of the > font face. I was just about to suggest that. Hershey_fast and Hershey_unidirectional maybe? -- atp

Re: [Emc-users] Engraving direction question

2015-07-03 Thread Bertho Stultiens
On 07/04/2015 12:18 AM, Bruce Layne wrote: > Even on a CNC router or a mill, there is a large amount of variation in > the results depending on spindle speed, cutter diameter, grain structure > and other physical properties of the material being engraved, etc. > Secondary operations are also a

Re: [Emc-users] Engraving direction question

2015-07-03 Thread Bruce Layne
Lasers engrave too, and should produce the same results in both of your examples, although much quicker in the first example. Even on a CNC router or a mill, there is a large amount of variation in the results depending on spindle speed, cutter diameter, grain structure and other physical prope

[Emc-users] Engraving direction question

2015-07-03 Thread Bertho Stultiens
Hi all, While porting the Hershey fonts for engraving it occurred to me that they are very heavy in pen-up/down movements because many strokes are partials. There is plenty of room for optimization, reducing the rapid moves by about 30%, but that means that engraving is not done in a consistent di