Thanks for translation. I am Swiss and speak German but live in Canada
On 02/13/2014 12:54 AM, Gregg Eshelman wrote:
> On 2/12/2014 5:55 AM, Daniel Duesentrieb wrote:
>> I just tried. it works like a charm.
>>
>> from the 80VAC transformer into a "flow straightener" (is this the right
>> word for
A german Gleichrichter is an english rectifier, both derived from a
latin rectificator ("straight maker").
Peter
Am 12.02.2014 13:55, schrieb Daniel Duesentrieb:
> I just tried. it works like a charm.
>
> from the 80VAC transformer into a "flow straightener" (is this the right
> word for the par
On 2/12/2014 5:55 AM, Daniel Duesentrieb wrote:
> I just tried. it works like a charm.
>
> from the 80VAC transformer into a "flow straightener" (is this the right
> word for the part who converts AC to DC?) and straight to the motor.
Sounds about right. :) Translated from what language?
The Engl
On Wednesday 12 February 2014 16:09:17 Daniel Duesentrieb did opine:
> I just tried. it works like a charm.
>
> from the 80VAC transformer into a "flow straightener" (is this the right
> word for the part who converts AC to DC?) and straight to the motor. Pin
> A is + (plus).
In English, that is
I just tried. it works like a charm.
from the 80VAC transformer into a "flow straightener" (is this the right
word for the part who converts AC to DC?) and straight to the motor. Pin
A is + (plus).
no noise, nothing - just releases the brake.
thanks, guys
On 02/11/2014 11:17 PM, Cecil Thomas
In the video he says
80 VDC. Pin A is +
The break release at 28 VDC.
On 02/11/2014 02:21 PM, Duesentrieb Yahoo wrote:
>
> have not 80v dc. could take 120vdc.
>
> witch is plus, A or B ?
>
>
> --
> On Tue, 11 Feb, 2014 9:12 AM PST Jon Elson wrote:
>
>> On 02/11/2014
80 volts is approximately what you get with half wave rectified 120 V AC.
Unfortunately with no filter it might make the brake into a buzzer.
Cecil
On 02/11/2014 01:21 PM, Duesentrieb Yahoo wrote:
> have not 80v dc. could take 120vdc.
>
> witch is plus, A or B ?
I'm pretty sure the polarity
On 02/11/2014 01:21 PM, Duesentrieb Yahoo wrote:
>
> have not 80v dc. could take 120vdc.
>
> witch is plus, A or B ?
>
>
>
I'm pretty sure the polarity doesn't matter. But, if the brakes
are designed for 80 V DC, 120 V will likely burn out the coils.
Power goes up as the SQUARE of voltage, so 120
have not 80v dc. could take 120vdc.
witch is plus, A or B ?
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On Tue, 11 Feb, 2014 9:12 AM PST Jon Elson wrote:
>On 02/11/2014 07:39 AM, Duesentrieb Yahoo wrote:
>> video about the brake:
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXUScv7R8Ik&feature=youtube_gdata_play
On 02/11/2014 07:39 AM, Duesentrieb Yahoo wrote:
> video about the brake:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXUScv7R8Ik&feature=youtube_gdata_player
>
> so i am planing to connect the brake direkt after the main transformer.
>
> ca. 80VAC
>
> is that ok?
>
>
I think Fanuc brakes are DC, not AC.
On 02/11/2014 07:23 AM, Duesentrieb Yahoo wrote:
> thank you jon
>
> there is also a 2 pin connector at the black part if the motor. right beside
> the 4 pin power connector.
>
> what about this one? i think it is the brake. ist that right.
>
> please see here:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=
video about the brake:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXUScv7R8Ik&feature=youtube_gdata_player
so i am planing to connect the brake direkt after the main transformer.
ca. 80VAC
is that ok?
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On Mon, 10 Feb, 2014 6:46 PM PST Jon Elson wrote:
>On 02/10/2014 03:45
thank you jon
there is also a 2 pin connector at the black part if the motor. right beside
the 4 pin power connector.
what about this one? i think it is the brake. ist that right.
please see here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-MNy6-QanI&feature=youtube_gdata_player
at 2:00
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On 02/10/2014 08:46 PM, Jon Elson wrote:
Oh, I should have mentioned, the encoder and Fanuc converter
will work fine if you just leave that connector with nothing
connected to it.
Jon
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On 02/10/2014 03:45 AM, Daniel Duesentrieb wrote:
> Folks,
>
> I am trying to get this servo moving with the drivers from
> Pico-Systems.
>
> I am going to wire like this:
> http://pico-systems.com/images/fanuc.pdf
>
>
> But here is my question: What about the 2 (one on the
> servo, one on the "r
Lol
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On 11/8/2013 7:58 AM, Duesentrieb Yahoo wrote:
> Thank youu Marius,
>
> Right now I am going with option 2 and Jon. The driver is in the way. I
> ordered 1 for now to see if it works.
>
> I agree with your opinion that 2.2kw should be enough. I do not plan to di
> heavy lifting - I want to mill w
Thank youu Marius,
Right now I am going with option 2 and Jon. The driver is in the way. I ordered
1 for now to see if it works.
I agree with your opinion that 2.2kw should be enough. I do not plan to di
heavy lifting - I want to mill wood with a 1" mill and chainsaw.
Beeing in canada does not
Daniel,
as I understand from the nameplate - these are synchronous permanent
magnet motors?
If so, I can say - take mesa 5i20 or 5i23 or similar and you will be
able to control your servo amps directly using bldc component.
For encoders - they are usual (or almost usual) quadrature + index,
dif
Daniel,
as I understand from the nameplate - these are synchronous permanent
magnet motors?
If so, I can say - take mesa 5i20 or 5i23 or similar and you will be
able to control your servo amps directly using bldc component.
For encoders - they are usual (or almost usual) quadrature + index,
dif
thanks for the video.
before I can home I have to move first. lol
what drivers/controller board do you have on this?
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On Sun, 27 Oct, 2013 9:57 AM PDT Chris Radek wrote:
>On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 10:36:48PM -0500, Jon Elson wrote:
>> LinuxCNC has a mechanism to h
On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 10:36:48PM -0500, Jon Elson wrote:
> LinuxCNC has a mechanism to home axes in sequence, and then move
> to a particular position offset from the index pulse location.
> So, this should allow the machine to be homed safely from most
> positions.
This is how we set up homin
On 27 October 2013 03:48, Jon Elson wrote:
> Possibly. To use my (Pico Systems) gear, you would need our encoder
> converter
> board, as the commutation signals from the encoder are not industry
> standard.
> They provide 4 signals that give a Gray code approximation of absolute rotor
> position
On Sunday 27 October 2013 05:45:34 Jon Elson did opine:
> andy pugh wrote:
> > On 26 October 2013 21:09, Jon Elson wrote:
> >> The ABS encoders, if battery backup
> >> is provided, apparently put out a burst of quadrature pulses to
> >> revolve the apparent position to the offset from the index
Daniel Duesentrieb wrote:
> Thanks Andy,
>
> So I have to replace the drivers with the ones from Pica or Mesa. Do I
> still need the encoder converter electronics?
>
>
Possibly. To use my (Pico Systems) gear, you would need our encoder
converter
board, as the commutation signals from the enco
andy pugh wrote:
> On 26 October 2013 21:09, Jon Elson wrote:
>
>> The ABS encoders, if battery backup
>> is provided, apparently put out a burst of quadrature pulses to
>> revolve the apparent position to the offset from the index
>> position, thereby eliminating the need to home the axis. B
Daniel Duesentrieb wrote:
> Like I wrote in my very first post I have absolutely no clue what I am
> talking about. So please explain to me like to a child ;)
>
> I understand that system doesn't know in witch positions the servos are
> because the encoders loose the values on a power off. I unde
Dave Cole wrote:
> Most of the robots I have worked with - like this 6 axis, rely on the
> absolute encoders retaining their position as rehoming after a power
> loss cannot be insured as many of them will crash if they do not know
> where they are at on powerup.
>
> To "rehome" they they have t
Thanks Andy,
So I have to replace the drivers with the ones from Pica or Mesa. Do I
still need the encoder converter electronics?
Yes, I can see they "only" have 2.2KW, I would need ~3KW. I do not blan
to lift heavy parts. In fact I want to use the robot as a 5-axis mill
and cut in wood. So I
On 26 October 2013 22:51, Daniel Duesentrieb wrote:
> I understand that system doesn't know in witch positions the servos are
> because the encoders loose the values on a power off.
No, the encoders have a battery back-up and do know where they are
> Witch controller board do I need to use my o
On 26 October 2013 21:09, Jon Elson wrote:
> The ABS encoders, if battery backup
> is provided, apparently put out a burst of quadrature pulses to
> revolve the apparent position to the offset from the index
> position, thereby eliminating the need to home the axis. But,
> I've never tried this
Like I wrote in my very first post I have absolutely no clue what I am
talking about. So please explain to me like to a child ;)
I understand that system doesn't know in witch positions the servos are
because the encoders loose the values on a power off. I understand that
I have to jog every si
Most of the robots I have worked with - like this 6 axis, rely on the
absolute encoders retaining their position as rehoming after a power
loss cannot be insured as many of them will crash if they do not know
where they are at on powerup.
To "rehome" they they have to be manual jogged into a ce
Duesentrieb Yahoo wrote:
> Jon, I just opened an accout on picasa. You will find a lot of pictures
> there. If something is missing pls let me know:
>
> https://picasaweb.google.com/104662429729242075783/FanucS420f?authkey=Gv1sRgCJaFwtDZ7dve3AE
>
>
OK, I saw 4 pictures showing a Fanuc A860-0320
Jon, I just opened an accout on picasa. You will find a lot of pictures there.
If something is missing pls let me know:
https://picasaweb.google.com/104662429729242075783/FanucS420f?authkey=Gv1sRgCJaFwtDZ7dve3AE
Cheers
2013/10/25 Daniel
> Thanks, Jon
>
>
> I will do this tomorrow. Need to go to sleep now.
>
> Thanks for you help - I will have a good sleep now ;)
>
>
You really should have been to the German Integrator Meeting in Stuttgart
last weekend. But to get you a push in the right direction, try to conta
Thanks, Jon
I will do this tomorrow. Need to go to sleep now.
Thanks for you help - I will have a good sleep now ;)
On 13-10-25 12:08 AM, Jon Elson wrote:
> Daniel wrote:
>> Jon,
>>
>> PLEASE SELL ME STUFF - lol
>> Really want to get this moving...
>>
>> Yes the motors are 141V and 20A(stall
Daniel wrote:
> Jon,
>
> PLEASE SELL ME STUFF - lol
> Really want to get this moving...
>
> Yes the motors are 141V and 20A(stall)
>
>
OK, my drives are only capable of 20A and have only been tested to 122 V.
That will certainly get you moving, but I don't know what the real peak
rating of the m
Jon,
PLEASE SELL ME STUFF - lol
Really want to get this moving...
Yes the motors are 141V and 20A(stall)
I have some pictures of the plates on the motor. I also have the
original maintenance manual of the whole electric stuff. All original
cabinet with driver and computer etc.
Do you want m
Peter C. Wallace wrote:
>
> The Fanuc digital drives are relatively simple power stages that need a 3
> phase current controller that implements field oriented control.
Not really trying to sell you stuff, but I do have some gear that should
be able to drive these
motors, now. The motors, actual
On Thu, 24 Oct 2013, Daniel wrote:
> Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 17:14:10 -0400
> From: Daniel
> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
>
> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Fanuc 420F 6-axis robot
>
> Thanks
On Thu, 24 Oct 2013, andy pugh wrote:
> Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 21:56:50 +0100
> From: andy pugh
> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
>
> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Fanuc 420F 6-axis robot
>
>
On Thu, 24 Oct 2013, Daniel wrote:
>
>> Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 15:53:37 -0400
>> From: Daniel
>> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
>>
>> To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
>> Subject: [Emc-users] Fanuc 420F 6-axis robot
>&g
On 24 October 2013 21:51, Peter C. Wallace wrote:
> The Fanuc digital drives are relatively simple power stages that need a 3
> phase current controller that implements field oriented control. We are
> working on a device (sserial to velocity mode fanuc digital drive interface)
> to do this but h
On Thu, 24 Oct 2013, Daniel wrote:
> Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 15:53:37 -0400
> From: Daniel
> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
>
> To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: [Emc-users] Fanuc 420F 6-axis robot
>
> Hi guys
>
> comple
And yes - still connected to the original drivers
the described connections (drivers and encoders) are plugs/cables i can use
On 13-10-24 04:03 PM, andy pugh wrote:
> On 24 October 2013 20:53, Daniel wrote:
>
>> Connections driver (all model same):
>>
>> 01PWMA (ALM1)
>> 02COMA
>> 03
Connections driver (all model same):
01PWMA (ALM1)
02COMA
03PWMB (ALM2)
04COMB
05PWMC (ALM4)
06COMC
07DRDY
08IR
09GDR
10IS
11GDS
12MCON
13GND
14PWMD (ALM8)
15COMD
16PWME
17COME
18 PWMF
19 COMF
20 empty
sorry...
On 24 October 2013 20:53, Daniel wrote:
> Connections driver (all model same):
>
> 01PWMA (ALM1)
> 02COMA
> 03PWMB (ALM2)
> 04COMB
> 05PWMC (ALM4)
> 06COMC
> 07DRDY
> 08IR
> 09GDR
> 10IS
> 11GDS
> 12MCON
> 13GND
> 14PWMD (ALM8)
> 15COMD
Sweet man, Can't help you directly as I don't know jack about six axis
robots but I am gonna watch this thread with interest. I am sure someone
will pop along here in a minute that knows about it. These guys are great.
Incidentally I am using Mesa cards to run my Cincinatti Arrow 500 VMC and
they a
Hi guys
complete new at linuxcnc, robotics and mailing lists. I am a software
engineer, at least I can start up a pc from a cd. So please be nice and
patient with me ;)
Want to get our robot going with with Linuxcnc. So far I found following
information:
Motors:
Fancu Model 10, Type A06B-0501
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