Re: [Emc-users] OT made a new milling enclosure

2011-04-09 Thread Dave
If you follow that Wiki link it mentions a plant in Mt. Vernon, IN... plant.. GE... Mt. Vernon... Then a light goes on. Hey I've been in that plant! That was the first place I saw a T1 data line installed.That was a long time ago.. about 1992. In fact the guy I was with during that

Re: [Emc-users] OT made a new milling enclosure

2011-04-08 Thread cogoman
On 04/08/2011 10:30 AM, emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote: > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 06:54:27 -0500 > From: Igor Chudov > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] OT made a new milling enclosure > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > Message

Re: [Emc-users] OT made a new milling enclosure

2011-04-08 Thread Igor Chudov
It is good stuff, but as for bending it cold, one needs a big brake. I do not personally have that. So, to bend it I heat it up. i On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 6:40 AM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: > also airplane windshields > > On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 4:19 AM, Mark Wendt > wrote: > > > On 04/07/2011 01:

Re: [Emc-users] OT made a new milling enclosure

2011-04-08 Thread andy pugh
On 8 April 2011 12:40, Stuart Stevenson wrote: > also airplane windshields http://killerhurtz.co.uk/ (I never saw it get broken) -- atp "Torque wrenches are for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men" -- X

Re: [Emc-users] OT made a new milling enclosure

2011-04-08 Thread Mark Wendt
On 04/08/2011 07:40 AM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: > also airplane windshields And new milling enclosures... ;-) Mark -- Xperia(TM) PLAY It's a major breakthrough. An authentic gaming smartphone on the nation's most reliab

Re: [Emc-users] OT made a new milling enclosure

2011-04-08 Thread Stuart Stevenson
also airplane windshields On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 4:19 AM, Mark Wendt wrote: > On 04/07/2011 01:43 PM, Roland Jollivet wrote: > > AFAIK Lexan is specifically designed for tough impact conditions, like a > > window on a machining centre, so no, it wont shatter. > > > > Roland > > Ayup. That's wha

Re: [Emc-users] OT made a new milling enclosure

2011-04-08 Thread Erik Christiansen
On Wed, Apr 06, 2011 at 10:19:16AM -0500, Igor Chudov wrote: > I did an experiment. I took a 1/4" thick piece of junk Lexan, and beat it > with a steel bar. The Lexan piece would not shatter. It is supposed to be > bendable cold, but I do not have the facilities to do this. > > I bend mine with a

Re: [Emc-users] OT made a new milling enclosure

2011-04-08 Thread Mark Wendt
On 04/07/2011 01:43 PM, Roland Jollivet wrote: > AFAIK Lexan is specifically designed for tough impact conditions, like a > window on a machining centre, so no, it wont shatter. > > Roland Ayup. That's what they use for bullet-resistant windows. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lexan Mark

Re: [Emc-users] OT made a new milling enclosure

2011-04-07 Thread Roland Jollivet
AFAIK Lexan is specifically designed for tough impact conditions, like a window on a machining centre, so no, it wont shatter. Roland On 6 April 2011 17:19, Igor Chudov wrote: > I did an experiment. I took a 1/4" thick piece of junk Lexan, and beat it > with a steel bar. The Lexan piece would

Re: [Emc-users] OT made a new milling enclosure

2011-04-06 Thread Igor Chudov
I did an experiment. I took a 1/4" thick piece of junk Lexan, and beat it with a steel bar. The Lexan piece would not shatter. It is supposed to be bendable cold, but I do not have the facilities to do this. I bend mine with a gas torch. I learned how to be careful with the torch, to avoid most su

Re: [Emc-users] OT made a new milling enclosure

2011-04-06 Thread Dave
Plexiglas does shatter... I have first hand experience with that. I thought thermoforming was required of Lexan also, otherwise I would have bending Lexan years ago! :-) That is a huge advantage. Dave On 4/6/2011 10:48 AM, Mark Wendt wrote: > On 04/06/2011 10:36 AM, Dave wrote: > >> It

Re: [Emc-users] OT made a new milling enclosure

2011-04-06 Thread Mark Wendt
On 04/06/2011 10:36 AM, Dave wrote: > It does make logical sense but all of the websites ( I found ) say that > heat is required to bend polycarbonate. > > Perhaps they are confusing Lexan with Plexiglass... > > I like the "just throw it in the bender" idea myself! :-) > > Much simpler. > > Thanks

Re: [Emc-users] OT made a new milling enclosure

2011-04-06 Thread Dave
It does make logical sense but all of the websites ( I found ) say that heat is required to bend polycarbonate. Perhaps they are confusing Lexan with Plexiglass... I like the "just throw it in the bender" idea myself! :-) Much simpler. Thanks, Dave On 4/6/2011 6:45 AM, andy pugh wrote: > On

Re: [Emc-users] OT made a new milling enclosure

2011-04-06 Thread andy pugh
On 6 April 2011 11:15, John Thornton wrote: > 1/4" thick usually and yes 90 degrees It shouldn't come as any real surprise that a plastic is plastic -- atp "Torque wrenches are for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men"

Re: [Emc-users] OT made a new milling enclosure

2011-04-06 Thread John Thornton
1/4" thick usually and yes 90 degrees John Dave wrote: > Bend Lexan.. > > How thick of Lexan are you talking about? > > Can you do a full 90 degree bend in a brake? > > Dave > > > On 4/5/2011 8:52 AM, John Thornton wrote: > >> We used to make metal guards for our pallet lift and spin mach

Re: [Emc-users] OT made a new milling enclosure

2011-04-06 Thread Mark Wendt
On 04/05/2011 09:00 AM, Igor Chudov wrote: >> Yeah, I promised the guys extra donuts for the week for that one. ;-) >> >> The silicon will be plenty strong enough for that. I can stand on my >> dust collector hood, and it's all butt joined. Silicon glue is a real >> beyotch to get apart once it'

Re: [Emc-users] OT made a new milling enclosure

2011-04-05 Thread Dave
Bend Lexan.. How thick of Lexan are you talking about? Can you do a full 90 degree bend in a brake? Dave On 4/5/2011 8:52 AM, John Thornton wrote: > We used to make metal guards for our pallet lift and spin machines but > the techs at the factory would throw them away and just bend some ou

Re: [Emc-users] OT made a new milling enclosure

2011-04-05 Thread dave
On Tue, 2011-04-05 at 11:55 -0400, BRIAN GLACKIN wrote: > > > > > Mark, there are so many glues, do you know which specific glue you used? > > > > Not off the top of my head, but I'll look when I get home from work at > > the tube and get the name of it for you. > > > Get the clear silicone. Sa

Re: [Emc-users] OT made a new milling enclosure

2011-04-05 Thread BRIAN GLACKIN
> > > Mark, there are so many glues, do you know which specific glue you used? > > Not off the top of my head, but I'll look when I get home from work at > the tube and get the name of it for you. Get the clear silicone. Same as they use in cement plants and bathrooms (glass shower surrounds)-

Re: [Emc-users] OT made a new milling enclosure

2011-04-05 Thread Mark Wendt
On 04/05/2011 09:00 AM, Igor Chudov wrote: >> >> Yeah, I promised the guys extra donuts for the week for that one. ;-) >> >> The silicon will be plenty strong enough for that. I can stand on my >> dust collector hood, and it's all butt joined. Silicon glue is a real >> beyotch to get apart once

Re: [Emc-users] OT made a new milling enclosure

2011-04-05 Thread Igor Chudov
On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 7:32 AM, Mark Wendt wrote: > On 04/05/2011 08:19 AM, Igor Chudov wrote: > > Great price on that Lexan, wow! > > > > I got a good deal on the mill though. This thing cost me $5 ($500 > > originally, but I sold unwanted control parts for $495). > > > > Re: silicone glue, than

Re: [Emc-users] OT made a new milling enclosure

2011-04-05 Thread Mark Wendt
On 04/05/2011 08:49 AM, John Thornton wrote: > No cracking at all with lexan and as with all bending there is a bit of > spring back... > > John Cool! I'll give that a try the next time I have to bend lexan. Thanks! Mark --

Re: [Emc-users] OT made a new milling enclosure

2011-04-05 Thread John Thornton
We used to make metal guards for our pallet lift and spin machines but the techs at the factory would throw them away and just bend some out of lexan so they could see better... so we quit supplying the metal guards to them and that is where we learned about bending lexan. John Mark Wendt wrot

Re: [Emc-users] OT made a new milling enclosure

2011-04-05 Thread John Thornton
No cracking at all with lexan and as with all bending there is a bit of spring back... John Mark Wendt wrote: > On 04/05/2011 08:39 AM, John Thornton wrote: > >> Nope, we just throw it up in the brake and bend away... real tough stuff. >> >> John >> > Interesting. Much spring back or

Re: [Emc-users] OT made a new milling enclosure

2011-04-05 Thread Mark Wendt
On 04/05/2011 08:39 AM, John Thornton wrote: > Nope, we just throw it up in the brake and bend away... real tough stuff. > > John Interesting. Much spring back or "crackling" of the lexan in the bend? Mark -- Xperia(TM)

Re: [Emc-users] OT made a new milling enclosure

2011-04-05 Thread John Thornton
Nope, we just throw it up in the brake and bend away... real tough stuff. John Mark Wendt wrote: > On 04/05/2011 08:21 AM, John Thornton wrote: > >> You can also bend lexan in your sheet metal brake... >> >> John >> > You still need to apply a bit of heat to the bend though, don't you?

Re: [Emc-users] OT made a new milling enclosure

2011-04-05 Thread Mark Wendt
On 04/05/2011 08:21 AM, John Thornton wrote: > You can also bend lexan in your sheet metal brake... > > John You still need to apply a bit of heat to the bend though, don't you? Mark -- Xperia(TM) PLAY It's a major break

Re: [Emc-users] OT made a new milling enclosure

2011-04-05 Thread Mark Wendt
On 04/05/2011 08:19 AM, Igor Chudov wrote: > Great price on that Lexan, wow! > > I got a good deal on the mill though. This thing cost me $5 ($500 > originally, but I sold unwanted control parts for $495). > > Re: silicone glue, thanks. There is more or less no stress when the > enclosure just sits

Re: [Emc-users] OT made a new milling enclosure

2011-04-05 Thread andy pugh
On 5 April 2011 13:19, Igor Chudov wrote: > I will > actually glue 1x1" square tubing made of the same material, into the > corners, to reinforce them. Coolant gutters / supports under the edges of the lift-out part might be nice too. (though I guess that with any surround that has an open face

Re: [Emc-users] OT made a new milling enclosure

2011-04-05 Thread Igor Chudov
Great price on that Lexan, wow! I got a good deal on the mill though. This thing cost me $5 ($500 originally, but I sold unwanted control parts for $495). Re: silicone glue, thanks. There is more or less no stress when the enclosure just sits there. I wanted the adhesive to be the strongest poss

Re: [Emc-users] OT made a new milling enclosure

2011-04-05 Thread John Thornton
You can also bend lexan in your sheet metal brake... John Mark Wendt wrote: > On 04/05/2011 07:15 AM, Igor Chudov wrote: > >>> >> It was a 4x4 feet 1/4" square from McMaster Carr, $111. I cut it into the >> pieces that I needed and used up 85% of the sheet making this enclosure. I >>

Re: [Emc-users] OT made a new milling enclosure

2011-04-05 Thread Mark Wendt
On 04/05/2011 07:15 AM, Igor Chudov wrote: >> > It was a 4x4 feet 1/4" square from McMaster Carr, $111. I cut it into the > pieces that I needed and used up 85% of the sheet making this enclosure. I > glued it with Loctite 409 glue. > > Where did you get your 3/8" stuff??? > > i Forgot to mention,

Re: [Emc-users] OT made a new milling enclosure

2011-04-05 Thread Mark Wendt
On 04/05/2011 07:15 AM, Igor Chudov wrote: >> What, you don't want coolant splatters all over the walls and stuff? >> ;-) I made up a dust collector hood out of lexan for my machine out of >> 3/8" sheet. That stuff ain't cheap. Did you get the 1/4" stuff in a 4' >> x 8' sheet? What did they zap

Re: [Emc-users] OT made a new milling enclosure

2011-04-05 Thread Igor Chudov
On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 4:32 AM, Mark Wendt wrote: > > > On 04/05/2011 01:46 AM, Igor Chudov wrote: > > > http://igor.chudov.com/projects/Bridgeport-Series-II-Interact-2-CNC-Mill/35-Large-Enclosure/ > > > > > > This one is much bigger than my old one. It is made of 1/4" > > polycarbonate, glued an

Re: [Emc-users] OT made a new milling enclosure

2011-04-05 Thread Mark Wendt
On 04/05/2011 01:46 AM, Igor Chudov wrote: > http://igor.chudov.com/projects/Bridgeport-Series-II-Interact-2-CNC-Mill/35-Large-Enclosure/ > > > This one is much bigger than my old one. It is made of 1/4" > polycarbonate, glued and the front piece locks in place, by > interlocking with sides (see

[Emc-users] OT made a new milling enclosure

2011-04-04 Thread Igor Chudov
http://igor.chudov.com/projects/Bridgeport-Series-II-Interact-2-CNC-Mill/35-Large-Enclosure/ This one is much bigger than my old one. It is made of 1/4" polycarbonate, glued and the front piece locks in place, by interlocking with sides (see pictures). Tomorrow, I will receive 1" square polycarb