Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-05 Thread Les Newell
If you want the ultimate in low writes, install your OS as a 'live' CD image. There are plenty of instructions on doing this with a thumb drive and they apply equally well to an SSD. You can have a separate partition for your data. I ran my network server like that for quite a while. Some distr

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-04 Thread gene heskett
On Wednesday, January 04, 2012 08:28:20 PM Jon Elson did opine: > gene heskett wrote: > > This house, with a full basement, has I believe shifted upwards, > > floating if you will, at least 2" in the 22 years I've been here. > > Well, I guess we have been real lucky here. The shop is in my basem

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-04 Thread Jon Elson
gene heskett wrote: > > This house, with a full basement, has I believe shifted upwards, floating > if you will, at least 2" in the 22 years I've been here. Well, I guess we have been real lucky here. The shop is in my basement, totally uninsulated except by earth berm. I put exterior foam with

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-04 Thread gene heskett
On Wednesday, January 04, 2012 02:45:54 PM Jon Elson did opine: > gene heskett wrote: > > Can some of that perceived resistance be credited to us linux folks > > generally being more likely to have a decent UPS that shields our > > boxes from a lot of that stuff? > > Nope, no UPSs here or at work

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-04 Thread Jon Elson
Mark Wendt wrote: > > Jon, > > Linux/Unix used to have the same problems. Until they invented > journaling. That, in my book, has save a ton of disks for me here at > work with cleaning folks accidentally pulling power cords, unexpected > power outages over the weekend that fully drain the UPS

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-04 Thread Jon Elson
gene heskett wrote: > Can some of that perceived resistance be credited to us linux folks > generally being more likely to have a decent UPS that shields our boxes > from a lot of that stuff? > > Nope, no UPSs here or at work. our network switches at work are on UPSs, and maybe the departmen

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-04 Thread Peter Blodow
I use an 8 GB SSD as a boot device in my ISDN monitor, an old, slowed down Pentium PC. The "disc" has been created once, and now it only gets written on when a telephone call occurs, maybe a couple of times a day. So I think, I have a "reliable" storage without moving parts, fans etc. at low p

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-04 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 1/4/2012 6:41 AM, Mark Wendt wrote: > On 01/04/2012 06:33 AM, Les Newell wrote: >> That is a good article. I do most of that apart from changing the I/O >> scheduler. For reliability I leave journaling on. >> >> Les >> > Yep, but the journaling will eventually eat your disk up. It's a > trade-o

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-04 Thread Mark Wendt
On 01/04/2012 06:38 AM, Les Newell wrote: > Hi Mark, > > The SSD on the server is just handling emails and sending out licenses > purchased through my web site. I used an SSD to save power as the > server runs 24/7. The OS sits on a CF card. Bulk storage is a 1.5TB > mechanical drive that is sp

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-04 Thread Les Newell
Hi Mark, The SSD on the server is just handling emails and sending out licenses purchased through my web site. I used an SSD to save power as the server runs 24/7. The OS sits on a CF card. Bulk storage is a 1.5TB mechanical drive that is spun down when not in use. In it's current incarnation

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-04 Thread Mark Wendt
On 01/04/2012 06:33 AM, Les Newell wrote: > That is a good article. I do most of that apart from changing the I/O > scheduler. For reliability I leave journaling on. > > Les > Yep, but the journaling will eventually eat your disk up. It's a trade-off. Longevity of the device vs reliability

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-04 Thread Les Newell
That is a good article. I do most of that apart from changing the I/O scheduler. For reliability I leave journaling on. Les On 04/01/2012 10:54, Mark Wendt wrote: > If you plan on running pure SSD's on Ubuntu, this fella put up a very > good write up on extending the life of the SSD (limiting wr

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-04 Thread Mark Wendt
On 01/04/2012 06:13 AM, Viesturs Lācis wrote: > 2012/1/4 Mark Wendt: > >> If you plan on running pure SSD's on Ubuntu, this fella put up a very >> good write up on extending the life of the SSD (limiting writes), and >> getting as much performance from them as you can: >> >>

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-04 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/1/4 Mark Wendt : > > If you plan on running pure SSD's on Ubuntu, this fella put up a very > good write up on extending the life of the SSD (limiting writes), and > getting as much performance from them as you can: > > I have been

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-04 Thread Mark Wendt
On 01/04/2012 03:47 AM, Les Newell wrote: > Most of my failures were on Windows but they didn't seem to be related > to power fluctuations. The Samsung failed on my Linux server. I > reformatted one of the Kingston drives and stuck it in my Linux house > computer. It ran for a couple of weeks befo

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-04 Thread Mark Wendt
On 01/03/2012 11:48 PM, gene heskett wrote: > Can some of that perceived resistance be credited to us linux folks > generally being more likely to have a decent UPS that shields our boxes > from a lot of that stuff? > > Add that as a whole I think we pay more attention to surge arrestors and > grou

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-04 Thread Mark Wendt
On 01/03/2012 10:55 PM, Jon Elson wrote: >> >> > Now, on Windows, I have no confidence whatsoever that "bad drives" are > actually bad > at the hardware level. I have had so many people say "oh, that power > surge blew out > my hard drive", when really what happened was the file system got >

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-04 Thread Mark Wendt
On 01/03/2012 06:36 PM, Les Newell wrote: > I have had some bad experiences with SSDs. So far in about 18 months I > have killed three in my office computer and one in my network server. > Three were Kingston V series and one was a Samsung. I had the same > issues with all of them. Initially they w

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-04 Thread Les Newell
Most of my failures were on Windows but they didn't seem to be related to power fluctuations. The Samsung failed on my Linux server. I reformatted one of the Kingston drives and stuck it in my Linux house computer. It ran for a couple of weeks before trashing the file system. I always get the

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-03 Thread gene heskett
On Tuesday, January 03, 2012 11:33:10 PM Jon Elson did opine: > Kirk Wallace wrote: > > On Tue, 2012-01-03 at 19:26 -0500, Kent A. Reed wrote: > > ... snip > > > >> The jury still seems to be out on the question of SSD reliability, > >> partly because there are so few data points compared to rota

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-03 Thread gene heskett
On Tuesday, January 03, 2012 10:58:17 PM Kirk Wallace did opine: > On Tue, 2012-01-03 at 19:26 -0500, Kent A. Reed wrote: > ... snip > > > The jury still seems to be out on the question of SSD reliability, > > partly because there are so few data points compared to rotating > > disks. > > ... sn

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-03 Thread Jon Elson
Kirk Wallace wrote: > On Tue, 2012-01-03 at 19:26 -0500, Kent A. Reed wrote: > ... snip > >> The jury still seems to be out on the question of SSD reliability, >> partly because there are so few data points compared to rotating disks. >> > ... snip > > I just replaced a friend's Samsung 60

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-03 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Tue, 2012-01-03 at 19:26 -0500, Kent A. Reed wrote: ... snip > The jury still seems to be out on the question of SSD reliability, > partly because there are so few data points compared to rotating disks. ... snip I just replaced a friend's Samsung 60GB SSD. It stopped booting Windows XP. I did

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-03 Thread James Louis
ubject: Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down On 1/3/2012 6:36 PM, Les Newell wrote: > I have had some bad experiences with SSDs. So far in about 18 months I > have killed three in my office computer and one in my network server. > Three were Kingston V series and one was a Samsung. I ha

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-03 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 1/3/2012 6:36 PM, Les Newell wrote: > I have had some bad experiences with SSDs. So far in about 18 months I > have killed three in my office computer and one in my network server. > Three were Kingston V series and one was a Samsung. I had the same > issues with all of them. Initially they work

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-03 Thread Les Newell
I have had some bad experiences with SSDs. So far in about 18 months I have killed three in my office computer and one in my network server. Three were Kingston V series and one was a Samsung. I had the same issues with all of them. Initially they worked great but after some months they starte

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-03 Thread Jon Elson
Kent A. Reed wrote: > On 1/2/2012 10:35 PM, Jon Elson wrote: > >> gene heskett wrote: >> >>> Is anyone running emc on this? How is the latency? >>> >> I've tested the Intel D525MW motherboard, and put it in the database. >> The servo thread jitter was 15595, the base thread was 1192

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-03 Thread gene heskett
On Tuesday, January 03, 2012 01:44:42 PM gene heskett did opine: > I just bought one of these. Genuine Intel board, but Not fanless but 2G of ram & a 250Gb HD & 300 watt supply, $246 shipped. It's in Houston, & he wanted some of my snow, said he wa

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-03 Thread Peter C. Wallace
> As usual I am still quite confused > If the Mesa hardware will do the critical work, step generation, why > does it matter so much about the motherboard > > Richard I believe that without the full EPP in effect, the port has some pins that are write only, and some that read only. IIRC the rea

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-03 Thread gene heskett
On Tuesday, January 03, 2012 12:10:31 PM kqt4a...@gmail.com did opine: [...] controls and electronics of the machine are in the usual ATX PC case. > > > > What I wanted to say with all this - PC mainboard does not matter that > > much, but D525 has a lot of advantages, when compared to other > >

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-03 Thread gene heskett
On Tuesday, January 03, 2012 12:00:18 PM kqt4a...@gmail.com did opine: > On Tue, 3 Jan 2012, Viesturs Lؤپcis wrote: > > 2012/1/3 gene heskett : > >> I do not currently have a machine that can boot from either usb or > >> network, and that includes this $300 Asus mobo with a quad core > >> phenom o

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-03 Thread gene heskett
On Tuesday, January 03, 2012 11:14:42 AM Viesturs Lācis did opine: > 2012/1/3 gene heskett : > > On Tuesday, January 03, 2012 06:00:47 AM Viesturs Lؤپcis did opine: > >> 2012/1/3 gene heskett : > >> > I do not currently have a machine that can boot from either usb or > >> > network, and that inclu

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-03 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Tue, 2012-01-03 at 13:49 +0200, Viesturs Lācis wrote: ... snip > I have no idea, what is dd. dd is a Linux utility that does a direct copy from one stream to another (?). I just learned to use it to duplicate a hard drive by copying bit for bit from the original drive to the new drive. By havin

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-03 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/1/3 andy pugh : > On 3 January 2012 14:30,   wrote: >> Is mesanet.com the only source for the mesa hardware > > it appears that www.cnc-ready.at no longer exists. > http://www.duzi.cz/shop_cnc/ still works though. Martin Duzi is their dealer in EU. If You are non-EU resident, then You are goi

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-03 Thread andy pugh
On 3 January 2012 14:30, wrote: > Is mesanet.com the only source for the mesa hardware it appears that www.cnc-ready.at no longer exists. http://www.duzi.cz/shop_cnc/ still works though. -- atp The idea that there is no such thing as objective truth is, quite simply, wrong. --

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-03 Thread kqt4at5v
Is mesanet.com the only source for the mesa hardware Richard -- Write once. Port to many. Get the SDK and tools to simplify cross-platform app development. Create new or port existing apps to sell to consumers worldwide.

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-03 Thread John Thornton
If you read the error carefully you will notice that you only get the error popup once per session even if you are getting millions of excessive delays... John On 1/3/2012 6:59 AM, Viesturs Lācis wrote: > 2012/1/3 andy pugh: >> On 3 January 2012 12:49, wrote: >> >>> If I were wanting to build

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-03 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/1/3 andy pugh : > On 3 January 2012 12:49,   wrote: > >> If I were wanting to build a new pc I would agree but I would like to >> improve the reliability of a "decent" machine >> I occasionally get rtai errors >> Will the Mesa hardware do this >> I have only stepper motors > > With Mesa/Pico c

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-03 Thread andy pugh
On 3 January 2012 12:49, wrote: > If I were wanting to build a new pc I would agree but I would like to > improve the reliability of a "decent" machine > I occasionally get rtai errors > Will the Mesa hardware do this > I have only stepper motors With Mesa/Pico cards you don't need the base thr

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-03 Thread kqt4at5v
On Tue, 3 Jan 2012, Viesturs Lācis wrote: 2012/1/3 : On Tue, 3 Jan 2012, Viesturs Lācis wrote: 2012/1/3 gene heskett : I do not currently have a machine that can boot from either usb or network, and that includes this $300 Asus mobo with a quad core phenom on it.  So ATM, the only univers

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-03 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/1/3 : > On Tue, 3 Jan 2012, Viesturs Lācis wrote: > >> 2012/1/3 gene heskett : >>> >>> >>> I do not currently have a machine that can boot from either usb or >>> network, >>> and that includes this $300 Asus mobo with a quad core phenom on it.  So >>> ATM, the only universal boot to install m

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-03 Thread kqt4at5v
On Tue, 3 Jan 2012, Viesturs Lācis wrote: 2012/1/3 gene heskett : I do not currently have a machine that can boot from either usb or network, and that includes this $300 Asus mobo with a quad core phenom on it.  So ATM, the only universal boot to install method I have is to maintain a working

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-03 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/1/3 gene heskett : > On Tuesday, January 03, 2012 06:00:47 AM Viesturs Lācis did opine: > >> 2012/1/3 gene heskett : >> > I do not currently have a machine that can boot from either usb or >> > network, and that includes this $300 Asus mobo with a quad core >> > phenom on it.  So ATM, the only

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-03 Thread gene heskett
On Tuesday, January 03, 2012 06:00:47 AM Viesturs Lācis did opine: > 2012/1/3 gene heskett : > > I do not currently have a machine that can boot from either usb or > > network, and that includes this $300 Asus mobo with a quad core > > phenom on it. So ATM, the only universal boot to install meth

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-03 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/1/3 gene heskett : > > I do not currently have a machine that can boot from either usb or network, > and that includes this $300 Asus mobo with a quad core phenom on it.  So > ATM, the only universal boot to install method I have is to maintain a > working internal optical drive in every box.

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-03 Thread gene heskett
On Tuesday, January 03, 2012 05:06:21 AM Viesturs Lācis did opine: > 2012/1/2 gene heskett : > > I've found a barebones box with a D525 board in it, for $120, claims > > to have the lpt on the back panel already. Needs a couple sticks of > > ddr2, a smallish sata drive and a dvd reader. > > > >

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-03 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/1/2 gene heskett : > > I've found a barebones box with a D525 board in it, for $120, claims to > have the lpt on the back panel already.  Needs a couple sticks of ddr2, a > smallish sata drive and a dvd reader. > > > > $120 kit > $ 29 ram > $ 80 500G sata3

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-02 Thread gene heskett
On Monday, January 02, 2012 11:52:14 PM Jon Elson did opine: > gene heskett wrote: > > How about this one? $219 > > > > > > > > only needs an optical drive for installs. > > > > I am tempted to get 2, one for the lathe. > > Yup, looks mostly OK to m

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-02 Thread gene heskett
On Monday, January 02, 2012 11:49:36 PM Jon Elson did opine: > gene heskett wrote: > > On Monday, January 02, 2012 02:31:38 PM andy pugh did opine: > >> On 2 January 2012 18:46, Kenneth Lerman > > > > wrote: > >>> That will be the third such machine I have. It does have built-in > >>> video, but

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-02 Thread gene heskett
On Monday, January 02, 2012 11:40:59 PM Jon Elson did opine: > gene heskett wrote: > > Is anyone running emc on this? How is the latency? > > I've tested the Intel D525MW motherboard, and put it in the database. > The servo thread jitter was 15595, the base thread was 11921. That's pretty good

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-02 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 1/2/2012 10:35 PM, Jon Elson wrote: > gene heskett wrote: >> Is anyone running emc on this? How is the latency? >> > I've tested the Intel D525MW motherboard, and put it in the database. > The servo thread jitter was 15595, the base thread was 11921. > That is fine for any system with a hardwar

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-02 Thread Jon Elson
gene heskett wrote: > How about this one? $219 > > > > only needs an optical drive for installs. > > I am tempted to get 2, one for the lathe. > Yup, looks mostly OK to me. It has a plastic window on the side, and a fan. You may need the fan with the

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-02 Thread Jon Elson
andy pugh wrote: > No, this is the Intel BOXD525MW (but I think that "BOX" might just > mean it is in a box) > Yes, it means there is an individual cardboard box with holographic anti-counterfeit label, meant for sale to the end-user, instead of packed in cases of a dozen or so. Jon

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-02 Thread Jon Elson
gene heskett wrote: > On Monday, January 02, 2012 02:31:38 PM andy pugh did opine: > > >> On 2 January 2012 18:46, Kenneth Lerman >> > wrote: > >>> That will be the third such machine I have. It does have built-in >>> video, but you don't have to use it. >>> >> However, there is

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-02 Thread Jon Elson
gene heskett wrote: > Is anyone running emc on this? How is the latency? > I've tested the Intel D525MW motherboard, and put it in the database. The servo thread jitter was 15595, the base thread was 11921. That is fine for any system with a hardware interface (servo or stepper) but may be a li

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-02 Thread gene heskett
On Monday, January 02, 2012 06:26:30 PM Kenneth Lerman did opine: > On 1/2/2012 2:12 PM, gene heskett wrote: > > > >> Subtotal 230.25 > >> > >> Shipping Cost (UPSGR) 13.22 > >> > >> Total $243.47 > > > > Does that include the lpt breakout kit? And is it time I bought a > > portab

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-02 Thread gene heskett
On Monday, January 02, 2012 04:53:35 PM Dave did opine: > On 1/2/2012 2:58 PM, andy pugh wrote: > > On 2 January 2012 19:32, gene heskett wrote: > >> On Monday, January 02, 2012 02:31:38 PM andy pugh did opine: > >>> However, there is no reason not to use the built-in video with that > >>> card,

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-02 Thread Kenneth Lerman
On 1/2/2012 2:12 PM, gene heskett wrote: > >> Subtotal 230.25 >> >> Shipping Cost (UPSGR)13.22 >> >> Total$243.47 > > Does that include the lpt breakout kit? And is it time I bought a portable > dvd writer that plugs into a usb port to do installs& such with? Will it > boot

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-02 Thread Dave
On 1/2/2012 2:58 PM, andy pugh wrote: > On 2 January 2012 19:32, gene heskett wrote: > >> On Monday, January 02, 2012 02:31:38 PM andy pugh did opine: >> > >>> However, there is no reason not to use the built-in video with that >>> card, it works fine. >>> >> And this is the

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-02 Thread gene heskett
On Monday, January 02, 2012 03:57:13 PM Jon Elson did opine: > gene heskett wrote: > > Maybe I'll even buy a whole new box. If I could find one of those > > compact models with a usable parport & no built in video. > > > > Is anyone actually selling that intel board that has been discussed > > h

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-02 Thread Daniel Rogge
One small data point: > Be carefull with MB choices, the Intel D525 MB is known to have good latency > not sure about the Foxconn. I found that a Foxconn board that we used to sell had much worse latency than the Intel DG41AN. No idea how it compares to the D525. Rogge --

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-02 Thread gene heskett
On Monday, January 02, 2012 02:50:10 PM Kent A. Reed did opine: > On 1/2/2012 2:06 PM, gene heskett wrote: > > On Monday, January 02, 2012 01:47:39 PM gene heskett did opine: > > > > [...] > > > >> With regard to a bad hal file killing the machine, I am now beginning > >> to lean toward a flaky

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-02 Thread andy pugh
On 2 January 2012 19:36, gene heskett wrote: >> http://www.suntekstore.co.uk/goods.php?id=10010116&utm_source=gbuk > It may be, but how long does it work with ext3?  I would rather have > rotating storage I can count on for a year or so. I have been using an 8GB one of those to compile EMC2 sev

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-02 Thread andy pugh
On 2 January 2012 19:32, gene heskett wrote: > On Monday, January 02, 2012 02:31:38 PM andy pugh did opine: >> However, there is no reason not to use the built-in video with that >> card, it works fine. > And this is the foxcon board? No, this is the Intel BOXD525MW (but I think that "BOX" might

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-02 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 1/2/2012 2:23 PM, andy pugh wrote: > On 2 January 2012 19:12, gene heskett wrote: > >>> MBD-I-D525MWV 1 D525MWV Mini-ITX Motherboard85.00 >> Does that include the lpt breakout kit? > No need, the D525 has the LPT on the back panel, it's the purple one here: > http://www.newegg

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-02 Thread Jon Elson
gene heskett wrote: > > Maybe I'll even buy a whole new box. If I could find one of those compact > models with a usable parport & no built in video. > > Is anyone actually selling that intel board that has been discussed here in > a ready to go package? I'd drop the card for one of those in a

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-02 Thread gene heskett
On Monday, January 02, 2012 02:34:16 PM andy pugh did opine: > On 2 January 2012 19:12, gene heskett wrote: > >> MBD-I-D525MWV 1 D525MWV Mini-ITX Motherboard85.00 > > > > Does that include the lpt breakout kit? > > No need, the D525 has the LPT on the back panel, it's the purp

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-02 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Mon, 2012-01-02 at 14:12 -0500, gene heskett wrote: ... snip > Disks are hens teeth ATM, although I hear production is ramping back up > after the tsunami now. ... snip I would consider nixing the optical drive and maybe the hard drive and use a USB thumb drive for installation and or normal u

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-02 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 1/2/2012 2:06 PM, gene heskett wrote: > On Monday, January 02, 2012 01:47:39 PM gene heskett did opine: > > [...] > >> With regard to a bad hal file killing the machine, I am now beginning to >> lean toward a flaky psu, its not liking 50F ambient temps in the shop, >> and has crashed with grand

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-02 Thread gene heskett
On Monday, January 02, 2012 02:31:38 PM andy pugh did opine: > On 2 January 2012 18:46, Kenneth Lerman wrote: > > That will be the third such machine I have. It does have built-in > > video, but you don't have to use it. > > However, there is no reason not to use the built-in video with that >

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-02 Thread gene heskett
t; > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down > > > > On Monday, January 02, 2012 01:47:39 PM gene heskett did opine: > > > > [...] > > > >> With regard to a bad hal file killing the machine, I am now b

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-02 Thread andy pugh
On 2 January 2012 19:12, gene heskett wrote: >> MBD-I-D525MWV         1       D525MWV Mini-ITX Motherboard    85.00 > Does that include the lpt breakout kit? No need, the D525 has the LPT on the back panel, it's the purple one here: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681312144

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-02 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Mon, 2 Jan 2012, gene heskett wrote: > Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 14:06:25 -0500 > From: gene heskett > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down > > On Monday,

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-02 Thread andy pugh
On 2 January 2012 18:46, Kenneth Lerman wrote: > That will be the third such machine I have. It does have built-in video, > but you don't have to use it. However, there is no reason not to use the built-in video with that card, it works fine. -- atp The idea that there is no such thing as obje

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-02 Thread gene heskett
On Monday, January 02, 2012 02:07:53 PM Kenneth Lerman did opine: > On 1/2/2012 1:16 PM, gene heskett wrote: > > > > > Maybe I'll even buy a whole new box. If I could find one of those > > compact models with a usable parport & no built in video. Is anyone > > actually selling that intel board

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-02 Thread gene heskett
On Monday, January 02, 2012 01:47:39 PM gene heskett did opine: [...] > With regard to a bad hal file killing the machine, I am now beginning to > lean toward a flaky psu, its not liking 50F ambient temps in the shop, > and has crashed with grand and goriously colored confetti on the screen > wi

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-02 Thread Kenneth Lerman
On 1/2/2012 1:16 PM, gene heskett wrote: > Maybe I'll even buy a whole new box. If I could find one of those > compact models with a usable parport & no built in video. Is anyone > actually selling that intel board that has been discussed here in a > ready to go package? I'd drop the card for

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-02 Thread gene heskett
On Monday, January 02, 2012 12:44:51 PM Kirk Wallace did opine: > On Mon, 2012-01-02 at 02:11 -0500, gene heskett wrote: > ... snip > > > > As for debugging your hal file, that's the problem I was working on > > > in the fall with my attempts to graph the hal network. The feedback > > > I got her

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-02 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Mon, 2012-01-02 at 02:11 -0500, gene heskett wrote: ... snip > > As for debugging your hal file, that's the problem I was working on in > > the fall with my attempts to graph the hal network. The feedback I got > > here suggested my approach wasn't lighting anyone's fire, > > I hope it didn't c

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-02 Thread Dave
On 1/2/2012 12:13 AM, Kent A. Reed wrote: > On 1/1/2012 8:41 PM, gene heskett wrote: > >> <...> >> Thanks guys& sending wishes for Happy& Prosperous New Year to all. >> Further thought: How do you folks arrive at those logic diagrams shown at >> several locations in the Integrators Manual

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-02 Thread Mark Wendt (Contractor)
On 1/2/2012 12:13 AM, Kent A. Reed wrote: > As for debugging your hal file, that's the problem I was working on in > the fall with my attempts to graph the hal network. The feedback I got > here suggested my approach wasn't lighting anyone's fire, but my wife's > health has taken a big nose dive (I

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-01 Thread gene heskett
On Monday, January 02, 2012 01:57:46 AM Kent A. Reed did opine: > On 1/1/2012 8:41 PM, gene heskett wrote: > > <...> > > Thanks guys& sending wishes for Happy& Prosperous New Year to all. > > Further thought: How do you folks arrive at those logic diagrams > > shown at several locations in the

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-01 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 1/1/2012 8:41 PM, gene heskett wrote: > <...> > Thanks guys& sending wishes for Happy& Prosperous New Year to all. > Further thought: How do you folks arrive at those logic diagrams shown at > several locations in the Integrators Manual I just printed fresh last > Thursday? > > It seems to me

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-01 Thread gene heskett
On Sunday, January 01, 2012 08:37:16 PM gene heskett did opine: > Greets everybody; > > I had gone back to an older $config because it had all the A axis stuff > it it, and of course had to do a bit of fine tuning in the .ini file. > > But when I fired off a proggy that used the M3-4-5 spindle c

[Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-01 Thread gene heskett
Greets everybody; I had gone back to an older $config because it had all the A axis stuff it it, and of course had to do a bit of fine tuning in the .ini file. But when I fired off a proggy that used the M3-4-5 spindle controls, I wrecked the first piece of pcb material I put in the jig. Very