Re: [Emc-users] possibly good news for LinuxCNC

On Wednesday 24 April 2019 18:06:47 Chris Albertson wrote: > On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 2:07 AM Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Wednesday 24 April 2019 03:42:00 andy pugh wrote: > > > On Wed, 24 Apr 2019 at 01:30, Gene Heskett > > > > wrote: > > > > Several, your personal config probably makes a far

Re: [Emc-users] possibly good news for LinuxCNC

чт, 25 квіт. 2019 о 20:52 andy pugh пише: > Yes, this is the plan! > But it would be useful to have an RTAI option too. > Sure. I'm trying to follow the discussion here... > > > Which image is the latest? > > linuxcnc-stretch-uspace-amd64-r13.iso 27-Oct-2018 17:57 1.2G > >

Re: [Emc-users] possibly good news for LinuxCNC

On Thu, 25 Apr 2019 at 17:25, Andrew wrote: > > http://www.linuxcnc.org/testing-stretch-rtpreempt/ > It would be great to put this link to the Download section of linuxcnc.org Yes, this is the plan! But it would be useful to have an RTAI option too. > Which image is the latest? >

Re: [Emc-users] possibly good news for LinuxCNC

Hi Chris, > > I hope at the end of the day, that we don't have to abandon software > > stepping as thats the lowest cost entry point. > > > SOftware stepping on PC hardware with Linux is "hard" but software > stepping > otherwise is cheap and easy. > > I have right here on my desk a little

Re: [Emc-users] possibly good news for LinuxCNC

> > The closest currently is the LinuxCNC + 2.7.14 Stretch ISO here: > > http://www.linuxcnc.org/testing-stretch-rtpreempt/ > > It would be great to put this link to the Download section of linuxcnc.org Which image is the latest? linuxcnc-stretch-uspace-amd64-r13.iso 27-Oct-2018 17:57

Re: [Emc-users] possibly good news for LinuxCNC

On Thu, 25 Apr 2019 at 02:52, Przemek Klosowski wrote: > It is pretty far along if it got to starting the apache server: the kernel > booted, the init process must have run a bunch of setup, etc. After advice from the IRC last night I tried "nomodeset" on the command line and that did the

Re: [Emc-users] possibly good news for LinuxCNC

On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 4:39 PM andy pugh wrote: > On Wed, 24 Apr 2019 at 14:47, andy pugh wrote: > > > When I get back the machine tonight I will report back with the last > > thing seen on the screen. > > I tried the suggested new config, and this is what I get: >

Re: [Emc-users] possibly good news for LinuxCNC

On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 2:07 AM Gene Heskett wrote: > On Wednesday 24 April 2019 03:42:00 andy pugh wrote: > > > On Wed, 24 Apr 2019 at 01:30, Gene Heskett > wrote: > > > Several, your personal config probably makes a far bigger difference > > > than the actual version number of the kernel

Re: [Emc-users] possibly good news for LinuxCNC

On Wed, 24 Apr 2019 at 14:47, andy pugh wrote: > When I get back the machine tonight I will report back with the last > thing seen on the screen. I tried the suggested new config, and this is what I get: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZw-nLf_XBg Immediately after "started apache http server"

Re: [Emc-users] possibly good news for LinuxCNC

Thanks Bari Thanks Alec On 04/24/2019 10:07 PM, bari wrote: The dev that spent years cleaning up and fixing the rtai.org to make it work with LCNC and hosting it at https://github.com/NTULINUX/RTAI just got tired of things. rtai.org would not give him credit and treated him like a pest even

Re: [Emc-users] possibly good news for LinuxCNC

The dev that spent years cleaning up and fixing the rtai.org to make it work with LCNC and hosting it at https://github.com/NTULINUX/RTAI just got tired of things. rtai.org would not give him credit and treated him like a pest even though they heavily borrowed his fixes (even at xenomai). Fortune

Re: [Emc-users] possibly good news for LinuxCNC

On Wed, 24 Apr 2019 at 14:30, bari wrote: > > What was the problem or error that occurred when building the RTAI > kernel using that repo? > > We were just discussing how he made that as bullet proof as possible. We > are really interested in what problems occurred. The build seems to have

Re: [Emc-users] possibly good news for LinuxCNC

@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] possibly good news for LinuxCNC What was the problem or error that occurred when building the RTAI kernel using that repo? We were just discussing how he made that as bullet proof as possible. We are really interested in what problems occurred. On 4

Re: [Emc-users] possibly good news for LinuxCNC

On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 9:40 AM Peter C. Wallace wrote: > > > Okay, so latency is the biggest concern with preempt-rt then. > > > > > > Mark > > > > > Yes, in my experience RTAI has better latency numbers especially on slower > hardware. On fast hardware Preempt-RT and RTAI can have similar

Re: [Emc-users] possibly good news for LinuxCNC

On Wed, 24 Apr 2019, Mark wrote: Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2019 06:31:00 -0400 From: Mark Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] possibly good news for LinuxCNC On 4/24/19 06:26, andy pugh wrote: On Wed, 24 Apr 201

Re: [Emc-users] possibly good news for LinuxCNC

What was the problem or error that occurred when building the RTAI kernel using that repo? We were just discussing how he made that as bullet proof as possible. We are really interested in what problems occurred. On 4/24/19 2:42 AM, andy pugh wrote: > And there is the problem. I have never yet

Re: [Emc-users] possibly good news for LinuxCNC

On 4/24/19 06:26, andy pugh wrote: On Wed, 24 Apr 2019 at 11:09, Mark wrote: Does preempt-rt not play well with parport configurations? Not having used a preempt-rt installation before, just curious. It can work fine. In fact my current dev PC shows better preempt-rt latency than I have eve

Re: [Emc-users] possibly good news for LinuxCNC

On Wed, 24 Apr 2019 at 11:09, Mark wrote: > Does preempt-rt not play well with parport configurations? Not having > used a preempt-rt installation before, just curious. It can work fine. In fact my current dev PC shows better preempt-rt latency than I have eve seen with RTAI. But that is an

Re: [Emc-users] possibly good news for LinuxCNC

On 4/24/19 05:36, andy pugh wrote: One thing wrong with Stretch is that it is not LTS whereas Jessie is. Also, I have so far failed to make a working RTAI kernel for Stretch. I think that we need at the very least an optional RTAI ISO for the parallel port users even if we recommend the

Re: [Emc-users] possibly good news for LinuxCNC

On Tue, 23 Apr 2019 at 11:54, Rene Hopf via Emc-users wrote: > I dont understand whats wrong with stretch. I run all my machines with 64 bit > stretch. One thing wrong with Stretch is that it is not LTS whereas Jessie is. Also, I have so far failed to make a working RTAI kernel for Stretch. I

Re: [Emc-users] possibly good news for LinuxCNC

On Wednesday 24 April 2019 03:42:00 andy pugh wrote: > On Wed, 24 Apr 2019 at 01:30, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Several, your personal config probably makes a far bigger difference > > than the actual version number of the kernel since you have to be > > pretty well up on YOUR hardware to

Re: [Emc-users] possibly good news for LinuxCNC

On Wed, 24 Apr 2019 at 01:30, Gene Heskett wrote: > Several, your personal config probably makes a far bigger difference than > the actual version number of the kernel since you have to be pretty well > up on YOUR hardware to re-configure the kernel you are about to build. And there is the

Re: [Emc-users] possibly good news for LinuxCNC

On Tuesday 23 April 2019 18:59:22 andy pugh wrote: > On Tue, 23 Apr 2019 at 03:25, bari wrote: > > The RTAI.org stuff is all beta and you're in for weeks of cleanup > > before it is stable. > > So, RTAI 5.1 is Beta? More like alpha. The real work today is being done on the linux-rt list. > > Is

Re: [Emc-users] possibly good news for LinuxCNC

On Tue, 23 Apr 2019 at 03:25, bari wrote: > The RTAI.org stuff is all beta and you're in for weeks of cleanup before > it is stable. So, RTAI 5.1 is Beta? Is there a stable version that runs with any 4.xx kernel? -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed

Re: [Emc-users] possibly good news for LinuxCNC

On Tuesday 23 April 2019 10:47:29 bari wrote: > The  3.16.52 kernel is the latest kernel supported by > https://github.com/ntulinux/rtai and works with Stretch. > > The later RTAI.org is all beta and will takes weeks of work to be > stable. The main developer there does not want outside help and

Re: [Emc-users] possibly good news for LinuxCNC

On Tuesday 23 April 2019 10:05:45 andy pugh wrote: > On Tue, 23 Apr 2019 at 14:59, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Since my only software stepper, the original micro HF being replaced > > by this 6040 headache has now been replaced with a 5i25/7i76D > > lashup, > > You should definitely switch to the

Re: [Emc-users] possibly good news for LinuxCNC

On Tue, 23 Apr 2019 at 15:49, bari wrote: > > The 3.16.52 kernel is the latest kernel supported by > https://github.com/ntulinux/rtai and works with Stretch. That may be the way forward then: 1) The existing and well-tested Stretch / Preempt-RT ISO as the recommended option for best hardware

Re: [Emc-users] possibly good news for LinuxCNC

The  3.16.52 kernel is the latest kernel supported by https://github.com/ntulinux/rtai and works with Stretch. The later RTAI.org is all beta and will takes weeks of work to be stable. The main developer there does not want outside help and seems to resent anyone that cleans up and fixes his

Re: [Emc-users] possibly good news for LinuxCNC

On Tue, 23 Apr 2019 at 14:59, Gene Heskett wrote: > Since my only software stepper, the original micro HF being replaced by > this 6040 headache has now been replaced with a 5i25/7i76D lashup, You should definitely switch to the preempt-RT Stretch version. But we still need a more up-to-date

Re: [Emc-users] possibly good news for LinuxCNC

On Tuesday 23 April 2019 06:52:28 Rene Hopf via Emc-users wrote: > > On 23. Apr 2019, at 12:39, andy pugh wrote: > > > > On Tue, 23 Apr 2019 at 11:37, andy pugh wrote: > >> On Tue, 23 Apr 2019 at 03:25, bari wrote: > >>> If you want an RTAI kernel that just works with LCNC just use > >>>

Re: [Emc-users] possibly good news for LinuxCNC

On Tue, 23 Apr 2019 at 11:54, Rene Hopf via Emc-users wrote: > I dont understand whats wrong with stretch. I run all my machines with 64 bit > stretch. Which kernel? Which Realtime? -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the especial use of

Re: [Emc-users] possibly good news for LinuxCNC

On Tue, 23 Apr 2019 at 11:37, andy pugh wrote: > > On Tue, 23 Apr 2019 at 03:25, bari wrote: > > > If you want an RTAI kernel that just works with LCNC just use > > https://github.com/ntulinux/rtai for 3.16.52 kernel. > (Or maybe Jessie, as that is LTS?) Hmm, and Jessie comes with 3.16. That

Re: [Emc-users] possibly good news for LinuxCNC

On Tue, 23 Apr 2019 at 03:25, bari wrote: > If you want an RTAI kernel that just works with LCNC just use > https://github.com/ntulinux/rtai for 3.16.52 kernel. Does stretch work with that kernel? Also, some newer hardware is already struggling with Wheezy and it's as-shipped kernel. Moving to

Re: [Emc-users] possibly good news for LinuxCNC

Andy, If you want an RTAI kernel that just works with LCNC just use https://github.com/ntulinux/rtai for 3.16.52 kernel. The RTAI.org stuff is all beta and you're in for weeks of cleanup before it is stable. 64 bit RTAI has been working for years. On 4/22/19 5:30 PM, andy pugh wrote: > On Mon,

Re: [Emc-users] possibly good news for LinuxCNC

On Mon, 22 Apr 2019 at 19:24, Peter C. Wallace wrote: > The closest currently is the LinuxCNC + 2.7.14 Stretch ISO here: > http://www.linuxcnc.org/testing-stretch-rtpreempt/ Noting that the amd64 version is for 64 bit, and not specifically AMD chips. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86-64 Wheezy

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; Dalton, Ohio 44618 > Phone:  (330)828-2105ext. 2031 > > -Original Message- > From: Peter C. Wallace > Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 2:23 PM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] possibly > good news for LinuxCNC > > On Mon, 22 Ap

Re: [Emc-users] possibly good news for LinuxCNC (Fieldbus)

Adding fieldbus support is without doubt something which really useful. I use a PLC at my workplace and it support several protocols, think it is: CANopen, Profibus, Ethercat, some other Ethernet, Modbus. > Maybe this will be the icing on the cake for LinuxCNC to make the jump to > 3.0? > >

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PM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] possibly good news for LinuxCNC On Mon, 22 Apr 2019, Gene Heskett wrote: > Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2019 13:30:07 -0400 > From: Gene Heskett > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > To: emc-us

Re: [Emc-users] possibly good news for LinuxCNC

On Mon, 22 Apr 2019, Gene Heskett wrote: Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2019 13:30:07 -0400 From: Gene Heskett Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] possibly good news for LinuxCNC On Monday 22 April 2019 11:48:58 Peter

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sts.sourceforge.net > > Subject: [Emc-users] possibly good news for LinuxCNC > > > > Maybe this will be the icing on the cake for LinuxCNC to make the > > jump to 3.0? > > > > <https://linux.slashdot.org/story/19/04/21/1939201/linux-52-will-int > >roduce-the-fi

Re: [Emc-users] possibly good news for LinuxCNC

On Mon, 22 Apr 2019, Gene Heskett wrote: Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2019 10:58:01 -0400 From: Gene Heskett Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Emc-users] possibly good news for LinuxCNC Maybe this will be the icing on the cake fo

[Emc-users] possibly good news for LinuxCNC

Maybe this will be the icing on the cake for LinuxCNC to make the jump to 3.0? Hopefully this will re-introduce real time control to a 64 bit kernel. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four