Re: [Emc-users] spindle orientation help for a 7i77 card looking for configs to study

2021-07-08 Thread andrew beck
Found it! wrong value resistor. I read the multimeter wrong lol Thanks for the patience Peter! On Fri, Jul 9, 2021, 5:01 PM andrew beck wrote: > Just checked that. State 1=5v state 2 =0v > > What else should I check? > > On Fri, Jul 9, 2021, 4:54 PM Peter C. Wallace wrote: > >> On Fri, 9

Re: [Emc-users] spindle orientation help for a 7i77 card looking for configs to study

2021-07-08 Thread andrew beck
Just checked that. State 1=5v state 2 =0v What else should I check? On Fri, Jul 9, 2021, 4:54 PM Peter C. Wallace wrote: > On Fri, 9 Jul 2021, andrew beck wrote: > > > Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2021 16:49:05 +1200 > > From: andrew beck > > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > > >

Re: [Emc-users] spindle orientation help for a 7i77 card looking for configs to study

2021-07-08 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Fri, 9 Jul 2021, andrew beck wrote: Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2021 16:49:05 +1200 From: andrew beck Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Subject: Re: [Emc-users] spindle orientation help for a 7i77 card looking for configs to study also

Re: [Emc-users] spindle orientation help for a 7i77 card looking for configs to study

2021-07-08 Thread andrew beck
also just confirming that the hm2_7i92.0.encoder.03.input-index doesn't change state. I can see a few options to change. should I change to the IDX/ input? or should I change the value of resistor? regards Andrew On Fri, Jul 9, 2021 at 4:46 PM andrew beck wrote: > just confirming that I

Re: [Emc-users] spindle orientation help for a 7i77 card looking for configs to study

2021-07-08 Thread andrew beck
just confirming that I hava a 265ohm resistor between ground and the encoder index input On Fri, Jul 9, 2021 at 4:39 PM Peter C. Wallace wrote: > On Fri, 9 Jul 2021, andrew beck wrote: > > > Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2021 16:21:05 +1200 > > From: andrew beck > > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller

Re: [Emc-users] spindle orientation help for a 7i77 card looking for configs to study

2021-07-08 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Fri, 9 Jul 2021, andrew beck wrote: Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2021 16:21:05 +1200 From: andrew beck Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Subject: Re: [Emc-users] spindle orientation help for a 7i77 card looking for configs to study hey

Re: [Emc-users] spindle orientation help for a 7i77 card looking for configs to study

2021-07-08 Thread andrew beck
hey Peter using a 7i77 mesa card I just tried my PNP sensor now i have wired up the ground and 5v correctly and have the signal wire into the pin 7 which is the index channel. I have also changed the jumper for the index channel to single ended operation. it doesn't work... what am I doing

Re: [Emc-users] spindle orientation help for a 7i77 card looking for configs to study

2021-07-07 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Wed, 7 Jul 2021, andy pugh wrote: Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2021 15:25:37 +0100 From: andy pugh Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Subject: Re: [Emc-users] spindle orientation help for a 7i77 card looking for configs to study On Wed, 7

Re: [Emc-users] spindle orientation help for a 7i77 card looking for configs to study

2021-07-07 Thread andy pugh
On Wed, 7 Jul 2021 at 15:20, Peter C. Wallace wrote: > Also some NPN prox's have built in pullups so may source 24V to the > output when off. Would a 5.2V zener at the terminal block be a sensible precaution? -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for

Re: [Emc-users] spindle orientation help for a 7i77 card looking for configs to study

2021-07-07 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Thu, 8 Jul 2021, andrew beck wrote: Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2021 01:47:18 +1200 From: andrew beck Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Subject: Re: [Emc-users] spindle orientation help for a 7i77 card looking for configs to study Hey I do

Re: [Emc-users] spindle orientation help for a 7i77 card looking for configs to study

2021-07-07 Thread andy pugh
On Wed, 7 Jul 2021 at 14:50, andrew beck wrote: > > Hey I do have npn proxy switches. They run on 6v how do I power Them > though? Definitely wait for the go-ahead from PCW on this one, but I think that it is safe to wire pulled-up 5V inputs to the output of an NPN prox that is powered from 24V

Re: [Emc-users] spindle orientation help for a 7i77 card looking for configs to study

2021-07-07 Thread andrew beck
Hey I do have npn proxy switches. They run on 6v how do I power Them though? Can I use 24v field io? On Thu, Jul 8, 2021, 1:40 AM Peter C. Wallace wrote: > On Thu, 8 Jul 2021, andrew beck wrote: > > > Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2021 01:34:02 +1200 > > From: andrew beck > > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine

Re: [Emc-users] spindle orientation help for a 7i77 card looking for configs to study

2021-07-07 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Thu, 8 Jul 2021, andrew beck wrote: Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2021 01:34:02 +1200 From: andrew beck Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Subject: Re: [Emc-users] spindle orientation help for a 7i77 card looking for configs to study Also

Re: [Emc-users] spindle orientation help for a 7i77 card looking for configs to study

2021-07-07 Thread andy pugh
On Wed, 7 Jul 2021 at 14:36, andrew beck wrote: > > Also when you say Pull down resistor can I just solder that between the pnp > prox output wire and the encoder input? Is an NPN an option? (wouldn't need to be specifically a low voltage one, I don't think) -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle

Re: [Emc-users] spindle orientation help for a 7i77 card looking for configs to study

2021-07-07 Thread andy pugh
On Wed, 7 Jul 2021 at 14:15, Peter C. Wallace wrote: > The encoder inputs have a 2K pullup resistor to 5V At the point where I said "I am not PCW" that should be interpreted to mean "ignore everything that I am about to say" :-) I wasn't aware that the encoder pins were different, other than

Re: [Emc-users] spindle orientation help for a 7i77 card looking for configs to study

2021-07-07 Thread andrew beck
Also when you say Pull down resistor can I just solder that between the pnp prox output wire and the encoder input? On Thu, Jul 8, 2021, 1:27 AM andrew beck wrote: > Looks like I bought the wrong type of switch then lol. > > Do you think I'll lose accuracy with a resistor? > > > Remember this

Re: [Emc-users] spindle orientation help for a 7i77 card looking for configs to study

2021-07-07 Thread andrew beck
Looks like I bought the wrong type of switch then lol. Do you think I'll lose accuracy with a resistor? Remember this is my index pulse for spindle.. On Thu, Jul 8, 2021, 1:15 AM Peter C. Wallace wrote: > On Wed, 7 Jul 2021, andrew beck wrote: > > > Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2021 20:47:35 +1200 > >

Re: [Emc-users] spindle orientation help for a 7i77 card looking for configs to study

2021-07-07 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Wed, 7 Jul 2021, andrew beck wrote: Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2021 20:47:35 +1200 From: andrew beck Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Subject: Re: [Emc-users] spindle orientation help for a 7i77 card looking for configs to study peter

Re: [Emc-users] spindle orientation help for a 7i77 card looking for configs to study

2021-07-07 Thread andrew beck
Awesome I'll power up tomorrow and try it out On Wed, Jul 7, 2021, 10:22 PM andy pugh wrote: > On Wed, 7 Jul 2021 at 10:58, andrew beck wrote: > > > Yep it's definitely 5v pnp I got them special from the manufacturer. > > So can I just power it from 5v and 0v. And then the sensor output goes

Re: [Emc-users] spindle orientation help for a 7i77 card looking for configs to study

2021-07-07 Thread andy pugh
On Wed, 7 Jul 2021 at 10:58, andrew beck wrote: > Yep it's definitely 5v pnp I got them special from the manufacturer. > So can I just power it from 5v and 0v. And then the sensor output goes into > the 7i77 spindle z index input? Yes, that should work fine. -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle

Re: [Emc-users] spindle orientation help for a 7i77 card looking for configs to study

2021-07-07 Thread andrew beck
Thanks Andy! Yep it's definitely 5v pnp I got them special from the manufacturer. So can I just power it from 5v and 0v. And then the sensor output goes into the 7i77 spindle z index input? (Jumpered for single ended inputs of course) On Wed, Jul 7, 2021, 9:51 PM andy pugh wrote: > On

Re: [Emc-users] spindle orientation help for a 7i77 card looking for configs to study

2021-07-07 Thread andy pugh
On Wed, 7 Jul 2021 at 09:51, andrew beck wrote: > PCW can I use a 5v pnp sensor straight into the 7i77 encoder input same as > I would do with the field io? I am not PCW, but I think that should be fine, as long as it is definitely 5V. Most prox sensors don't even work until they have 7V on the

Re: [Emc-users] spindle orientation help for a 7i77 card looking for configs to study

2021-07-07 Thread andrew beck
peter you found it lol! I have the spindle turned on by a standard output from the 7i77 card anyway so didn't check that the spindle enable signal was turning on the hm2_5i25.0.7i77.0.1.spinena pin i just went through it again and double checked stuff and netted the spinena pin also and it

Re: [Emc-users] spindle orientation help for a 7i77 card looking for configs to study

2021-07-06 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Tue, 6 Jul 2021, andrew beck wrote: Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2021 18:35:26 +1200 From: andrew beck Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Subject: [Emc-users] spindle orientation help for a 7i77 card looking for configs to study hey

Re: [Emc-users] spindle orientation help for a 7i77 card looking for configs to study

2021-07-06 Thread Martin Dobbins
Since timeout is caused by the Q value, what happens if you mess with various values for Q? Martin Hi Andrew, I thought I would try this on my Pi4 to 7i92H to AC Servo Spindle with step/dir and Quadrature Encoder. Given I have step/dir and quad encoder this should be a no brainer. Using

Re: [Emc-users] spindle orientation help for a 7i77 card looking for configs to study

2021-07-06 Thread John Dammeyer
Hi Andrew, I thought I would try this on my Pi4 to 7i92H to AC Servo Spindle with step/dir and Quadrature Encoder. Given I have step/dir and quad encoder this should be a no brainer. Using the information from here: http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/gcode/m-code.html#mcode:m19 I added the

[Emc-users] spindle orientation help for a 7i77 card looking for configs to study

2021-07-06 Thread andrew beck
hey everyone. i have been messing around all day with my cnc mill trying to get spindle orientation working so that I can get my toolchanger working I found a video on youtube from Tallas83 that showed what I want to do but he used a 5i20 card and 7i33 and I am having trouble converting it to