Re: [-empyre-] Meillassoux / Harman

2012-06-28 Thread Chuan Lim
Fellow non -objects ., There's some great information being posted on here [ re: -000 ] however could folks please kindly refrain from "top -posting" or more commonly known as "hitting reply without editing" and "adding one piddly non -sequitur" to the top of everybody else's thoughts? It pains

Re: [-empyre-] Meillassoux / Harman

2012-06-28 Thread Simon Biggs
Aesthetics, ideology? I was thinking of Lotfi Zadeh's work when I mentioned that - not fur balls. best Simon On 27 Jun 2012, at 18:04, Timothy Morton wrote: > Dear Simon, > > OOO objects are far more fuzzy than your metaphysically present fuzz. They > are ontologically fuzzy. > > To say

Re: [-empyre-] Meillassoux / Harman

2012-06-28 Thread Simon Biggs
It's been a long time since I was flamed on a list. Didn't think that happened anymore and that we had learned how to behave in such public spaces. I don't think patronising condescension is appropriate. Why do you think I'm a conceptual artist? (I'm not). best Simon On 27 Jun 2012, at 17:11

Re: [-empyre-] Meillassoux / Harman

2012-06-28 Thread Rob Jackson
Dear All, Ok - so if the academic banter is to continue - lets make it somewhat jovial. @Edurado No-ones really being disrespectful or denying the importance of conceptual art. The flurry of activity both in conceptual art and it's twin contemporary; systems art was directly aimed at formalis

Re: [-empyre-] Week 4 - Bio/Nano/Materialisms - the transperversal aesthetic of Texas grasshoppers

2012-06-28 Thread Clough, Patricia
Yes Grosz.Wonderful piece by her on why she no longer is a materialist Very beautiful on matter and life. Patricia From: empyre-boun...@lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au [empyre-boun...@lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au] On Behalf Of pinar yoldas [p...@duke.edu] S

Re: [-empyre-] Week 4 - Bio/Nano/Materialisms - the transperversal aesthetic of Texas grasshoppers

2012-06-28 Thread Timothy Morton
Hi Patricia, Is that piece from Becoming Undone? I'm writing an essay on ecocriticism and materialism and would dearly love to read it, as I am not a materialist either at this point, and it may be that there are some convergences. Yours, Tim http://www.ecologywithoutnature.blogspot.com On

Re: [-empyre-] Meta-question about the list

2012-06-28 Thread { brad brace }
Like most art-institutions, this list is highly-restrictive/censored. /:b On Wed, 27 Jun 2012, Ian Bogost wrote: > I apologize in advance for posting this. > > But is there a reason this email list withholds messages for many hours and > then distributes them all in a burst? Is every message

Re: [-empyre-] Meillassoux / Harman

2012-06-28 Thread Rob Myers
On 06/28/2012 05:56 AM, Timothy Morton wrote: Lots of artists and musicians are now tuning into OOO. Yes Ian's book contains some interesting examples. The problem is that the defenses of OOO against charges of failing to illustrate Marxism indicate that OOO aesthetics is probably a category