Re: [Emu] server unauthenticated provisioning mode

2011-08-26 Thread Dan Harkins
On Thu, August 25, 2011 10:32 pm, Glen Zorn wrote: On 8/26/2011 4:22 AM, Dan Harkins wrote: 3) I think MSCHAPv2 is an entirely inappropriate MTI for this mechanism. I brought that up as an example about how under certain conditions the fact that something is the kind of thing the IETF

Re: [Emu] server unauthenticated provisioning mode

2011-08-26 Thread Glen Zorn
On 8/26/2011 1:13 PM, Dan Harkins wrote: On Thu, August 25, 2011 10:32 pm, Glen Zorn wrote: On 8/26/2011 4:22 AM, Dan Harkins wrote: 3) I think MSCHAPv2 is an entirely inappropriate MTI for this mechanism. I brought that up as an example about how under certain conditions the fact that

Re: [Emu] server unauthenticated provisioning mode

2011-08-26 Thread Glen Zorn
On 8/26/2011 1:27 PM, Glen Zorn wrote: ... Hardly. The fact that the IETF was busy a) insisting that there was no, and never would be, any need for dynamic key generation (let alone mutual authentication) in network access protocols (specifically PPP; how could there be, since the only

Re: [Emu] server unauthenticated provisioning mode

2011-08-26 Thread Dan Harkins
On Thu, August 25, 2011 11:27 pm, Glen Zorn wrote: On 8/26/2011 1:13 PM, Dan Harkins wrote: On Thu, August 25, 2011 10:32 pm, Glen Zorn wrote: On 8/26/2011 4:22 AM, Dan Harkins wrote: 3) I think MSCHAPv2 is an entirely inappropriate MTI for this mechanism. I brought that up as an example

Re: [Emu] server unauthenticated provisioning mode

2011-08-25 Thread Sam Hartman
Dan: 1) My desire to use GPSK with anonymous server authentication is more or less unrelated to any other part of this discussion. I want to be able to do it because I think I might deploy it and I don't want the spec to forbid a deployment I consider reasonable. There is no security

Re: [Emu] server unauthenticated provisioning mode

2011-08-25 Thread Dan Harkins
Sam, On Thu, August 25, 2011 8:35 am, Sam Hartman wrote: Dan: 1) My desire to use GPSK with anonymous server authentication is more or less unrelated to any other part of this discussion. I want to be able to do it because I think I might deploy it and I don't want the spec to forbid a

Re: [Emu] server unauthenticated provisioning mode

2011-08-25 Thread Glen Zorn
On 8/26/2011 4:22 AM, Dan Harkins wrote: 3) I think MSCHAPv2 is an entirely inappropriate MTI for this mechanism. I brought that up as an example about how under certain conditions the fact that something is the kind of thing the IETF standardizes but is never the less informational should

Re: [Emu] server unauthenticated provisioning mode

2011-08-24 Thread Sam Hartman
Dan == Dan Harkins dhark...@lounge.org writes: Dan and MUST support EAP-pwd [RFC 5931] as a phase 2 method. I support all of dan's changes regarding unauthenticated server mode with the exception of the quoted text above. I do not generally support a down-reference to an informational

Re: [Emu] server unauthenticated provisioning mode

2011-08-24 Thread Dan Harkins
On Wed, August 24, 2011 12:15 pm, Sam Hartman wrote: Dan == Dan Harkins dhark...@lounge.org writes: Dan and MUST support EAP-pwd [RFC 5931] as a phase 2 method. I support all of dan's changes regarding unauthenticated server mode with the exception of the quoted text above. I do not

Re: [Emu] server unauthenticated provisioning mode

2011-08-24 Thread Sam Hartman
Dan == Dan Harkins dhark...@lounge.org writes: Dan On Wed, August 24, 2011 12:15 pm, Sam Hartman wrote: Dan == Dan Harkins dhark...@lounge.org writes: Dan and MUST support EAP-pwd [RFC 5931] as a phase 2 method. I support all of dan's changes regarding

[Emu] server unauthenticated provisioning mode

2011-08-23 Thread Dan Harkins
Hello, The tunnel method draft indicates that an anonymous TLS ciphersuite should only be used in accordance with the server unauthenticated provisioning mode described in RFC 5422. This is unfortunate because the technique described in RFC 5422 requires changes to an existing EAP method,