Re: [Emu] eap.arpa domain in draft-ietf-emu-bootstrapped-tls

2023-09-11 Thread Alan DeKok
On Sep 11, 2023, at 12:38 PM, Michael Richardson wrote: > There is no connection here. > EAP(nobody) gets you a useable L2. > L2 makes DHCP possible. There is no link, and they are not tied. I suspect the kind of provisioning you need is related to the kind of network access you get. The

Re: [Emu] eap.arpa domain in draft-ietf-emu-bootstrapped-tls

2023-09-11 Thread Michael Richardson
Alan DeKok wrote: >> I think that this is a mistake to be so specific. >> I don't think the supplicant should know/care, at this point, what kind of >> access it is going to get. I liked what we we had done with eap-onboarding >> where you get limited network, and then if DHCP

Re: [Emu] eap.arpa domain in draft-ietf-emu-bootstrapped-tls

2023-09-11 Thread Alan DeKok
On Sep 10, 2023, at 6:56 PM, Alan DeKok wrote: > There have been long discussions about not tying EAP to DHCP. I forget > which RFC it is, but there's an IAB architectural document which says this is > a bad idea. https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc5505.html The use of @eap.arpa is

Re: [Emu] eap.arpa domain in draft-ietf-emu-bootstrapped-tls

2023-09-10 Thread Alan DeKok
On Sep 10, 2023, at 6:38 PM, Michael Richardson wrote: > So, this replaces draft-richardson-emu-eap-onboarding-03 > which would use onboard...@eap.arpa. (Hmm. I keep thinking it was going to > be "nob...@eap.arpa") This document defines the @eap.arpa and the associated registry. It doesn't

Re: [Emu] eap.arpa domain in draft-ietf-emu-bootstrapped-tls

2023-09-10 Thread Michael Richardson
Alan DeKok wrote: > On Aug 30, 2023, at 6:29 AM, Owen Friel (ofriel) wrote: >> >> Hi EMU Chairs, >> >> I was looking to see if any minor updates are needed to draft-ietf-emu-bootstrapped-tls-03 before IETF 118 and WGLC. >> >> There was one outstanding action from

Re: [Emu] eap.arpa domain in draft-ietf-emu-bootstrapped-tls

2023-08-30 Thread Peter Yee
Alan, I've also sent an inquiry to the IAB on the matter to see if they have any thoughts. I'll post to the list if they come back with any opinions. Your draft will also be helpful either way as we can decide whether to incorporate their thoughts (if they've some concrete and coherent

Re: [Emu] eap.arpa domain in draft-ietf-emu-bootstrapped-tls

2023-08-30 Thread Alan DeKok
On Aug 30, 2023, at 6:29 AM, Owen Friel (ofriel) wrote: > > Hi EMU Chairs, > > I was looking to see if any minor updates are needed to > draft-ietf-emu-bootstrapped-tls-03 before IETF 118 and WGLC. > > There was one outstanding action from IETF 117: > > Do we want to say there is an

Re: [Emu] eap.arpa domain in draft-ietf-emu-bootstrapped-tls

2023-08-30 Thread Peter Yee
That one’s on me, gents. I have the action to inquire and will do so ASAP.     -Peter On 8/30/23, 3:29 AM, "Owen Friel (ofriel)" wrote: Hi EMU Chairs, I was looking to see if any minor updates are needed to draft-ietf-emu-bootstrapped-tls-03 before