Re: [Enigmail] Paste passphrase from clipboard into pinentry dialogbox

2015-04-05 Thread Ben McGinnes
On 29/03/2015 9:47 am, Jérôme Pinguet wrote: > > By the way Daniel, thanks for your GPG best practices page and more > generally for your work related to GPG, Riseup and Debian! :-) I > often refer to Riseup GPG Best practices during the cryptoparties I > organize in Marseille. Great to hear that

Re: [Enigmail] Paste passphrase from clipboard into pinentry dialogbox

2015-04-05 Thread Ben McGinnes
On 5/04/2015 11:50 pm, Patrick Brunschwig wrote: > On 05.04.15 15:41, Ben McGinnes wrote: > >> However, if you're in real trouble from this, the version of >> pinentry and gpg-agent I have running with GPG 2.1.2 include a >> little tick box which allows the passphrase to be visible when you >> typ

Re: [Enigmail] Paste passphrase from clipboard into pinentry dialogbox

2015-04-05 Thread Ben McGinnes
On 26/03/2015 9:36 am, Andre Lahmann wrote: > Ok, just for the record: this is an issue with pinentry - see e.g. > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pinentry/+bug/326132 > https://bugs.g10code.com/gnupg/issue1374 > https://bugs.g10code.com/gnupg/issue1368 > > It's absolutely ridiculous how

Re: [Enigmail] Paste passphrase from clipboard into pinentry dialogbox

2015-03-29 Thread Doug Barton
On 3/29/15 2:32 AM, Samir Nassar wrote: On Sunday, March 29, 2015 10:26:53 AM Anne Wilson wrote: Personally I prefer my password to be reference to a book - and you haven't a snowball in hell's chance of knowing which book or what reference to it :-) I doubt if even my closest family would gues

Re: [Enigmail] Paste passphrase from clipboard into pinentry dialogbox

2015-03-29 Thread Philip Jackson
On 28/03/15 20:30, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: > I quite like the Keepass approach. > > But it's not clear to me that this will work, at least for the versions > of pinentry i've seen that grab the input devices (i'm seeing this on > X11, at any rate). In this case, I don't think there is a way to

Re: [Enigmail] Paste passphrase from clipboard into pinentry dialogbox

2015-03-29 Thread Anne Wilson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 29/03/2015 10:32, Samir Nassar wrote: > On Sunday, March 29, 2015 10:26:53 AM Anne Wilson wrote: >> Personally I prefer my password to be reference to a book - and >> you haven't a snowball in hell's chance of knowing which book or >> what reference

Re: [Enigmail] Paste passphrase from clipboard into pinentry dialogbox

2015-03-29 Thread Samir Nassar
On Sunday, March 29, 2015 10:26:53 AM Anne Wilson wrote: > Personally I prefer my > password to be reference to a book - and you haven't a snowball in > hell's chance of knowing which book or what reference to it :-) I > doubt if even my closest family would guess the book. You might be wrong, yo

Re: [Enigmail] Paste passphrase from clipboard into pinentry dialogbox

2015-03-29 Thread Anne Wilson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 28/03/2015 19:30, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: > I suppose the underlying question is whether you think the user's > OpenPGP passphrase is one of these strong passphrases that they > should be able to remember, or whether you think it should be > del

Re: [Enigmail] Paste passphrase from clipboard into pinentry dialogbox

2015-03-28 Thread Jérôme Pinguet
On 03/28/2015 08:30 PM, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: > [so much for following up on gpg-devel; i'm replying to enigmail because > that's where this message went, even though i don't understand the > reason to keep this non-enigmail discussion here] > > On Sat 2015-03-28 15:09:15 -0400, Doug Barton wr

Re: [Enigmail] Paste passphrase from clipboard into pinentry dialogbox

2015-03-28 Thread Doug Barton
On 3/28/15 12:30 PM, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: [so much for following up on gpg-devel; i'm replying to enigmail because that's where this message went, even though i don't understand the reason to keep this non-enigmail discussion here] On Sat 2015-03-28 15:09:15 -0400, Doug Barton wrote: Fina

Re: [Enigmail] Paste passphrase from clipboard into pinentry dialogbox

2015-03-28 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
[so much for following up on gpg-devel; i'm replying to enigmail because that's where this message went, even though i don't understand the reason to keep this non-enigmail discussion here] On Sat 2015-03-28 15:09:15 -0400, Doug Barton wrote: > Finally, someone else already posted the right answer

Re: [Enigmail] Paste passphrase from clipboard into pinentry dialogbox

2015-03-28 Thread Doug Barton
On 3/28/15 11:57 AM, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: If the only concern is leaving sensitive data in the clipboard after use, maybe pinentry could*accept* pastes, but then also clear the clipboard after it was pasted into? First, this discussion is moot because Werner won't change this. Second, w

Re: [Enigmail] Paste passphrase from clipboard into pinentry dialogbox

2015-03-28 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
[redirecting to gnupg-devel, setting mail-followup-to: there] On Wed 2015-03-25 18:26:38 -0400, Robert J. Hansen wrote: >> My guess is that this is for added security. > > Correct. Werner Koch has said several times that he will not change the > code to permit C&P into the dialog box, as that wou

Re: [Enigmail] Paste passphrase from clipboard into pinentry dialogbox

2015-03-25 Thread Ludwig Hügelschäfer
On 25.03.15 23:36, Andre Lahmann wrote: > Ok, just for the record: this is an issue with pinentry - see e.g. > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pinentry/+bug/326132 > https://bugs.g10code.com/gnupg/issue1374 > https://bugs.g10code.com/gnupg/issue1368 > > It's absolutely ridiculous how usa

Re: [Enigmail] Paste passphrase from clipboard into pinentry dialogbox

2015-03-25 Thread Jérôme Pinguet
On 03/25/2015 10:40 PM, Andre Lahmann wrote: > Hello, > > since upgrading to Enigmail 1.8.x it's not possible anymore to paste the > passphrase into the pinentry dialogbox. I'm running Xubuntu 12.04 and > neither ctrl+v nor mouse buffer is working (as I am managing my > passphrases with keepass I a

Re: [Enigmail] Paste passphrase from clipboard into pinentry dialogbox

2015-03-25 Thread Andre Lahmann
Ok, just for the record: this is an issue with pinentry - see e.g. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pinentry/+bug/326132 https://bugs.g10code.com/gnupg/issue1374 https://bugs.g10code.com/gnupg/issue1368 It's absolutely ridiculous how usability is screwed by design and justified with secur

Re: [Enigmail] Paste passphrase from clipboard into pinentry dialogbox

2015-03-25 Thread Robert J. Hansen
> My guess is that this is for added security. Correct. Werner Koch has said several times that he will not change the code to permit C&P into the dialog box, as that would leave sensitive data in your clipboard -- and the clipboard, by definition, can be read by any application, including malwar

Re: [Enigmail] Paste passphrase from clipboard into pinentry dialogbox

2015-03-25 Thread Andre Lahmann
Hmm, I just tried it with GPGv1.4 but the pinentry dialogbox still does not allow copy and pasting... doesn't seem to be a GPGvX related issue or am I getting you wrong? Best, André Am 25.03.2015 um 22:44 schrieb mich...@yanovich.net: > On 03/25/2015 05:40 PM, Andre Lahmann wrote: >> Hello, > >>

Re: [Enigmail] Paste passphrase from clipboard into pinentry dialogbox

2015-03-25 Thread michael
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 03/25/2015 05:40 PM, Andre Lahmann wrote: > Hello, > > since upgrading to Enigmail 1.8.x it's not possible anymore to paste the > passphrase into the pinentry dialogbox. I'm running Xubuntu 12.04 and > neither ctrl+v nor mouse buffer is working (

[Enigmail] Paste passphrase from clipboard into pinentry dialogbox

2015-03-25 Thread Andre Lahmann
Hello, since upgrading to Enigmail 1.8.x it's not possible anymore to paste the passphrase into the pinentry dialogbox. I'm running Xubuntu 12.04 and neither ctrl+v nor mouse buffer is working (as I am managing my passphrases with keepass I also tried autotype without success). Is this a bug or a