Re: [E-devel] [evas] Add RGBA -> grayscale 64 entries palette conversion

2009-08-17 Thread Mikhail Gusarov
Twas brillig at 12:15:55 17.08.2009 UTC+10 when ras...@rasterman.com did gyre and gimble: CHR> you can query palettes in x - yes. XGetRGBColormaps() to read CHR> colormaps. but i don't quite know how your x is set up? is it set CHR> up that its default visual is a greyscale one? or indexed co

Re: [E-devel] [evas] Add RGBA -> grayscale 64 entries palette conversion

2009-08-17 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 16:06:56 +0700 Mikhail Gusarov said: > > Twas brillig at 12:15:55 17.08.2009 UTC+10 when ras...@rasterman.com did gyre > and gimble: > > CHR> you can query palettes in x - yes. XGetRGBColormaps() to read > CHR> colormaps. but i don't quite know how your x is set up? is it

Re: [E-devel] [evas] Add RGBA -> grayscale 64 entries palette conversion

2009-08-17 Thread Mikhail Gusarov
Twas brillig at 19:31:21 17.08.2009 UTC+10 when ras...@rasterman.com did gyre and gimble: >> StaticGray CHR> then that's defined i think as 0 -> N where N is the highest value CHR> supported by the bits, and N being white, 0 being black. ? Yes. CHR> so no need for colormap games or palett

Re: [E-devel] E SVN: cedric IN trunk/edje: . src/lib

2009-08-17 Thread Cedric BAIL
On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 4:21 AM, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > On Sat, 15 Aug 2009 10:37:22 -0400 William Keaney said: >> > Weird it shouldn't as code is disabled by default in this commit. >> > Where do you see problem, in E17 itselef ? Elementary ? EWL ? What >> > module are you using ? >> > >> > Di

Re: [E-devel] [evas] Add RGBA -> grayscale 64 entries palette conversion

2009-08-17 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 16:44:24 +0700 Mikhail Gusarov said: > > Twas brillig at 19:31:21 17.08.2009 UTC+10 when ras...@rasterman.com did gyre > and gimble: > > >> StaticGray > > CHR> then that's defined i think as 0 -> N where N is the highest value > CHR> supported by the bits, and N being wh

Re: [E-devel] [evas] Add RGBA -> grayscale 64 entries palette conversion

2009-08-17 Thread Mikhail Gusarov
Twas brillig at 20:23:17 17.08.2009 UTC+10 when ras...@rasterman.com did gyre and gimble: CHR> hmm - no that's grayscale. grayscale is a gray only verison of CHR> pseudocolor. staticgray == linear allocation of gray values (ie CHR> what i described). at least so it says in the x protocol ref

Re: [E-devel] [evas] Add RGBA -> grayscale 64 entries palette conversion

2009-08-17 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 18:01:59 +0700 Mikhail Gusarov said: > > Twas brillig at 20:23:17 17.08.2009 UTC+10 when ras...@rasterman.com did gyre > and gimble: > > CHR> hmm - no that's grayscale. grayscale is a gray only verison of > CHR> pseudocolor. staticgray == linear allocation of gray values

Re: [E-devel] [evas] Add RGBA -> grayscale 64 entries palette conversion

2009-08-17 Thread Mikhail Gusarov
Twas brillig at 21:29:53 17.08.2009 UTC+10 when ras...@rasterman.com did gyre and gimble: That's it. CHR> The values are typically in a linear or near-linear increasing CHR> ramps. linear. increasing. typically. :) /me patches the kernel driver: 0x0 -> #ff, 0x1 -> #00, 0x2 -> #a

Re: [E-devel] [evas] Add RGBA -> grayscale 64 entries palette conversion

2009-08-17 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 18:40:37 +0700 Mikhail Gusarov said: > > Twas brillig at 21:29:53 17.08.2009 UTC+10 when ras...@rasterman.com did gyre > and gimble: > > That's it. > > CHR> The values are typically in a linear or near-linear increasing > CHR> ramps. linear. increasing. typically. :) >

Re: [E-devel] [evas] Add RGBA -> grayscale 64 entries palette conversion

2009-08-17 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 18:40:37 +0700 Mikhail Gusarov said: > > Twas brillig at 21:29:53 17.08.2009 UTC+10 when ras...@rasterman.com did gyre > and gimble: > > That's it. > > CHR> The values are typically in a linear or near-linear increasing > CHR> ramps. linear. increasing. typically. :) >

Re: [E-devel] [evas] Add RGBA -> grayscale 64 entries palette conversion

2009-08-17 Thread Mikhail Gusarov
Twas brillig at 21:48:09 17.08.2009 UTC+10 when ras...@rasterman.com did gyre and gimble: CHR> wait - so its actually being psychotic with a palette like: CHR> 0xff CHR> 0x00 Right now driver exposes linear values as you'd expect (though I've seen controllers which wanted pixel value

Re: [E-devel] [evas] Add RGBA -> grayscale 64 entries palette conversion

2009-08-17 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 18:51:31 +0700 Mikhail Gusarov said: > > Twas brillig at 21:48:09 17.08.2009 UTC+10 when ras...@rasterman.com did gyre > and gimble: > > CHR> wait - so its actually being psychotic with a palette like: > CHR> 0xff > CHR> 0x00 > > Right now driver exposes linear v

Re: [E-devel] [evas] Add RGBA -> grayscale 64 entries palette conversion

2009-08-17 Thread Mikhail Gusarov
Twas brillig at 21:56:21 17.08.2009 UTC+10 when ras...@rasterman.com did gyre and gimble: CHR> yes and no. at least the docs indicate it's a ramping transition CHR> in values - we can shortcut and avoid a palette lookup to improve CHR> speed. there's correct and then there's fast :) being fas

Re: [E-devel] [evas] Add RGBA -> grayscale 64 entries palette conversion

2009-08-17 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 9:04 AM, Mikhail Gusarov wrote: > > Twas brillig at 21:56:21 17.08.2009 UTC+10 when ras...@rasterman.com did gyre > and gimble: > >  CHR> yes and no. at least the docs indicate it's a ramping transition >  CHR> in values - we can shortcut and avoid a palette lookup to impro

Re: [E-devel] [evas] Add RGBA -> grayscale 64 entries palette conversion

2009-08-17 Thread Mikhail Gusarov
Twas brillig at 09:46:47 17.08.2009 UTC-03 when barbi...@profusion.mobi did gyre and gimble: GSB> Fine ebooks won't go with movies and animations, They will. New technology for bi-stable screens, which allows several dozens of fps and 4096 colors, is expected to be available for production nex

Re: [E-devel] [evas] Add RGBA -> grayscale 64 entries palette conversion

2009-08-17 Thread Mikhail Gusarov
CHR> 4096 colors? well there's the rgb16-444 - this is specifically for CHR> displays using rgb565 as the rgb format but with only 4 bits per CHR> rgb (thus dithering appropriately). but for dozens of CHR> fps.. really? will updates look good? Dunno, I did not test such screens yet. Though it

Re: [E-devel] [evas] Add RGBA -> grayscale 64 entries palette conversion

2009-08-17 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 20:02:48 +0700 Mikhail Gusarov said: > > Twas brillig at 09:46:47 17.08.2009 UTC-03 when barbi...@profusion.mobi did > gyre and gimble: > > GSB> Fine ebooks won't go with movies and animations, > > They will. New technology for bi-stable screens, which allows several > doz

Re: [E-devel] [evas] Add RGBA -> grayscale 64 entries palette conversion

2009-08-17 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:04:59 +0700 Mikhail Gusarov said: > > CHR> 4096 colors? well there's the rgb16-444 - this is specifically for > CHR> displays using rgb565 as the rgb format but with only 4 bits per > CHR> rgb (thus dithering appropriately). but for dozens of > CHR> fps.. really? will

Re: [E-devel] [evas] Add RGBA -> grayscale 64 entries palette conversion

2009-08-17 Thread Mikhail Gusarov
Twas brillig at 00:17:36 18.08.2009 UTC+10 when ras...@rasterman.com did gyre and gimble: CHR> but with only 16 real shades (gain you'll have to make assumptions CHR> about this - or at least have a converter per display type - eg 64 CHR> colors (6bit) but only 16 levels (4bit) significant)m

[E-devel] recent edje break (cedric?)

2009-08-17 Thread The Rasterman
maybe you did break something... look at e17 and he default theme - all the spinning wheel son logout, reboot, filemanager window refresh... don't spin anymore - the image tweening doesnt work anymore! can you reproduce? -- - Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" --

Re: [E-devel] [evas] Add RGBA -> grayscale 64 entries palette conversion

2009-08-17 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:26:05 +0700 Mikhail Gusarov said: > > Twas brillig at 00:17:36 18.08.2009 UTC+10 when ras...@rasterman.com did gyre > and gimble: > > CHR> but with only 16 real shades (gain you'll have to make assumptions > CHR> about this - or at least have a converter per display typ

Re: [E-devel] ecore_evas_title_set/ecore_evas_name_class_set NULL parameters

2009-08-17 Thread Vincent Torri
On Mon, 17 Aug 2009, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 04:44:51 +0700 Mikhail Gusarov > said: > >> Hello. >> >> Is it ok to pass NULL parameters to ecore_evas_title_set / >> ecore_evas_name_class_set? If yes, what's the expected reaction of >> backend? Should it trea

Re: [E-devel] recent edje break (cedric?)

2009-08-17 Thread Cedric BAIL
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > maybe you did break something... look at e17 and he default theme - all the > spinning wheel son logout, reboot, filemanager window refresh... don't spin > anymore - the image tweening doesnt work anymore! can you reproduce? Yep, I see the

Re: [E-devel] recent edje break (cedric?)

2009-08-17 Thread Cedric BAIL
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 5:09 PM, Cedric BAIL wrote: > On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Carsten Haitzler wrote: >> maybe you did break something... look at e17 and he default theme - all the >> spinning wheel son logout, reboot, filemanager window refresh... don't spin >> anymore - the image tweenin

Re: [E-devel] E SVN: davemds trunk/edje/src/lib

2009-08-17 Thread Peter Wehrfritz
Enlightenment SVN wrote: > Log: >* rename mem_strdup() to not clash (in the case of a static build) with > the one defined in bin/ > Author: davemds > Date: 2009-08-17 06:54:17 -0700 (Mon, 17 Aug 2009) > New Revision: 41839 > > Modified: > trunk/edje/src/lib/edje_edit.c > > M

Re: [E-devel] fast decompression lib

2009-08-17 Thread Thomas Gstädtner
On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 20:15, Vincent Torri wrote: > > > On Sun, 2 Aug 2009, David Seikel wrote: > >> On Sat, 1 Aug 2009 08:40:32 +0200 (CEST) Vincent Torri >> wrote: >> >>> while looking at the doc of UPX, i've found that lossless >>> (de)compression library: >>> >>> http://www.oberhumer.com/open

Re: [E-devel] fast decompression lib

2009-08-17 Thread David Seikel
On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:54:41 +0200 Thomas Gstädtner wrote: > On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 20:15, Vincent Torri > wrote: > > > > > > On Sun, 2 Aug 2009, David Seikel wrote: > > > >> On Sat, 1 Aug 2009 08:40:32 +0200 (CEST) Vincent Torri > >> wrote: > >> > >>> while looking at the doc of UPX, i've found

Re: [E-devel] E SVN: cedric IN trunk/edje: . src/lib

2009-08-17 Thread William Keaney
On Monday 17 August 2009 05:54:10 you wrote: > On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 4:21 AM, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > On Sat, 15 Aug 2009 10:37:22 -0400 William Keaney said: > >> > Weird it shouldn't as code is disabled by default in this commit. > >> > Where do you see problem, in E17 itselef ? Elementar

[E-devel] GSOC important announcement (final dates)

2009-08-17 Thread Ian Caldwell
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Re: [E-devel] GSOC important announcement (final dates)

2009-08-17 Thread Ian Caldwell
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Re: [E-devel] fast decompression lib

2009-08-17 Thread Vincent Torri
On Mon, 17 Aug 2009, Thomas Gstädtner wrote: On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 20:15, Vincent Torri wrote: On Sun, 2 Aug 2009, David Seikel wrote: On Sat, 1 Aug 2009 08:40:32 +0200 (CEST) Vincent Torri wrote: while looking at the doc of UPX, i've found that lossless (de)compression library: http

[E-devel] Ecore compile fails on Windows XP in MinGw/Msys environment

2009-08-17 Thread Paul Gokke
Hey, I am trying to compile the ecore library under the MinGW/Msys environment in Windows XP but it fails when compiling, ecore_thread.c. I got the following error: libtool: compile: gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../../.. -ID:/msys/1.0/local/include -D_WIN32_WINNT=0x0500 -DEFL_ECORE_BUILD -I/usr/lo