Re: [E-devel] [Efl-technical-documentation] Site statistics

2017-12-23 Thread Pierre Couderc
On 12/23/2017 09:56 AM, Vincent Torri wrote: On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 8:54 AM, Pierre Couderc wrote: On 12/19/2017 09:44 AM, Vincent Torri wrote: I am glad to have developed my first application under efl (eegrep = multidimensional grep). With legacy API. The more there are EFL apps, the be

Re: [E-devel] [Efl-technical-documentation] Site statistics

2017-12-23 Thread Vincent Torri
On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 8:54 AM, Pierre Couderc wrote: > On 12/19/2017 09:44 AM, Vincent Torri wrote: >>> >>> >>> I am glad to have developed my first application under efl (eegrep = >>> multidimensional grep). >>> With legacy API. >>> >> The more there are EFL apps, the better. >> >> But the pro

Re: [E-devel] [Efl-technical-documentation] Site statistics

2017-12-21 Thread Pierre Couderc
On 12/19/2017 07:05 AM, Pierre Couderc wrote: I am glad to have developed my first application under efl (eegrep = multidimensional grep). With legacy API. Thanks for all your comments. I am glad that you all encourage my choice... ;)

Re: [E-devel] [Efl-technical-documentation] Site statistics

2017-12-20 Thread Pierre Couderc
On 12/19/2017 09:44 AM, Vincent Torri wrote: I am glad to have developed my first application under efl (eegrep = multidimensional grep). With legacy API. The more there are EFL apps, the better. But the project should also do advertising (phoronix, /., linuxfr.org for french, reddit, lwn, e

Re: [E-devel] [Efl-technical-documentation] Site statistics

2017-12-20 Thread Pierre Couderc
On 12/19/2017 08:15 PM, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 07:05:28 +0100 Pierre Couderc wrote: I am glad to have developed my first application under efl (eegrep = multidimensional grep). With legacy API. Should I regret not having used Gnome ? Not to mention the treatment fo

Re: [E-devel] [Efl-technical-documentation] Site statistics

2017-12-19 Thread Carsten Haitzler
On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 12:31:04 -0500 Cedric Bail said: > The open question will be for bindings, especially the one that have already > an existing user base. I would love to see the python bindings allow for the > same smooth transition as for the C API, for the same reason as we already I think

Re: [E-devel] [Efl-technical-documentation] Site statistics

2017-12-19 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 14:15:33 -0500 "William L. Thomson Jr." wrote: > On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 07:05:28 +0100 > Pierre Couderc wrote: > > > I am glad to have developed my first application under efl (eegrep > > = multidimensional grep). > > With legacy API. > > Should I regret not having used Gnome ?

Re: [E-devel] [Efl-technical-documentation] Site statistics

2017-12-19 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 07:05:28 +0100 Pierre Couderc wrote: > I am glad to have developed my first application under efl (eegrep = > multidimensional grep). > With legacy API. > Should I regret not having used Gnome ? Not at all, stuff like the following is wonderful! New one today https://gi

Re: [E-devel] [Efl-technical-documentation] Site statistics

2017-12-19 Thread Stephen Houston
Hello Pierre, My intent was never to suggest that. I was only suggesting that the distinctions within the api could be confusing enough that a new developer could easily mistake it or misunderstand it and decide not to use either. Andrew, myself, and most other developers involved have used and c

Re: [E-devel] [Efl-technical-documentation] Site statistics

2017-12-19 Thread Andrew Williams
Hi Pierre, I, as most others here, think that picking EFL is a great choice. We are in a time of flux but there is no reason to regret having used the current stable (legacy) API. As cedric notes this will be supported for many years and we will be offering a smooth transition to the new Unified A

Re: [E-devel] [Efl-technical-documentation] Site statistics

2017-12-19 Thread Cedric Bail
> Original Message > Subject: Re: [E-devel] [Efl-technical-documentation] Site statistics > Local Time: December 18, 2017 10:05 PM > UTC Time: December 19, 2017 6:05 AM > From: pie...@couderc.eu > To: enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > On 12/1

Re: [E-devel] [Efl-technical-documentation] Site statistics

2017-12-19 Thread Vincent Torri
On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 7:05 AM, Pierre Couderc wrote: > On 12/18/2017 05:28 PM, Stephen Houston wrote: >> >> "If we are to de-prioritise the new API at the cost of further development >> of legacy APIs then we are prolonging the period of time in which we >> request developers to use an API which

Re: [E-devel] [Efl-technical-documentation] Site statistics

2017-12-18 Thread Pierre Couderc
On 12/18/2017 05:28 PM, Stephen Houston wrote: "If we are to de-prioritise the new API at the cost of further development of legacy APIs then we are prolonging the period of time in which we request developers to use an API which we are intending to discontinue." I don't disagree. But if we de-

Re: [E-devel] [Efl-technical-documentation] Site statistics

2017-12-18 Thread Andrew Williams
Hi, It is indeed confusing. We have done our best to describe the situation in the docs and given users the choice. What would be really helpful would be a timeline or plan so that those making the choice can make it an informed one. Andrew On Mon, 18 Dec 2017 at 16:28 Stephen Houston wrote: >

Re: [E-devel] [Efl-technical-documentation] Site statistics

2017-12-18 Thread Stephen Houston
"If we are to de-prioritise the new API at the cost of further development of legacy APIs then we are prolonging the period of time in which we request developers to use an API which we are intending to discontinue." I don't disagree. But if we de-prioritize the old API at the cost of furthering

Re: [E-devel] [Efl-technical-documentation] Site statistics

2017-12-18 Thread Andrew Williams
Hi, Apologies I was using "legacy" by way of definition to separate it from "unified" APIs. We are now fighting a battle of multiple focuses - Some tell me that we are pushing the Unified / interfaces as fast as we can and anything (such as release) would slow us down. Others are reporting that le

Re: [E-devel] [Efl-technical-documentation] Site statistics

2017-12-18 Thread Stephen Houston
With 4 and 5, I think this should be sent in a follow up to cedric's website redesign thread. As I think, and a lot of people agree, the look and feel of the website needs a lot more work than just a few layout/content changes. On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 9:43 AM Stephen Houston wrote: > I disagree

Re: [E-devel] [Efl-technical-documentation] Site statistics

2017-12-18 Thread Stephen Houston
I disagree with #1. It's not Legacy API until it is actually, you know, legacy. Who knows how long the "beta" api will be before released and how long it will be until there is a stable release of it that will work full featured for application, especially elementary, development. To not provide