At 11:14 PM 10/12/2004 -0400, Donald Qualls wrote:
Most airbag propellants are sodium azide, which itself is on the List (or
was, as of a couple years ago).
Sodium azide explosive mixture is on the List; sodium azide by itself is not.
However, ISTM that if BATFE wants to go after someone on this o
At 07:23 PM 10/12/2004 -0700, Jerry Durand wrote:
Orange Book, page 57, question 27
"27. How are airbags regulated by AFT?
Unless the product has been classified by AFT as a special explosive
device and exempted from regulation under 27 CFR 55.32, an airbag device
containing explosive initiators
At 07:23 PM 10/12/2004 -0700, Jerry Durand wrote:
For reference:
Orange Book, page 57, question 27
"27. How are airbags regulated by AFT?
Unless the product has been classified by AFT as a special explosive
device and exempted from regulation under 27 CFR 55.32, an airbag device
containing explo
On Tue, 12 Oct 2004, Donald Qualls wrote:
> > find no mention of air bag actuators. Mind you, I don't know what's
> > *in* them...
>
> Most airbag propellants are sodium azide, which itself is on the List
> (or was, as of a couple years ago).
My understanding is that sodium azide *used to be*
Randall Clague wrote:
At 06:58 PM 10/12/2004 -0700, David Weinshenker wrote:
One would think that an airbag actuator would fall within the definition
of a "propellent actuated device" ("specialized mechanical device or gas
generator system that releases or directs work by means of a propellant
char
At 06:58 PM 10/12/2004 -0700, David Weinshenker wrote:
One would think that an airbag actuator would fall within the definition
of a "propellent actuated device" ("specialized mechanical device or gas
generator system that releases or directs work by means of a propellant
charge"), and as such woul
At 06:58 PM 10/12/2004, David Weinshenker wrote:
One would think that an airbag actuator would fall within the definition
of a "propellent actuated device" ("specialized mechanical device or gas
generator system that releases or directs work by means of a propellant
charge"), and as such would be e
David Weinshenker wrote:
Jerry Durand wrote:
At 06:05 PM 10/12/2004, Randall Clague wrote:
At 03:33 PM 10/12/2004 -0700, Jerry Durand wrote:
the BATFE "Orange Book" even specifically defines car airbag actuators as
controlled explosives, requiring that your car be kept in a magazine
Surely individ
Jerry Durand wrote:
>
> At 06:05 PM 10/12/2004, Randall Clague wrote:
> >At 03:33 PM 10/12/2004 -0700, Jerry Durand wrote:
> >
> >>the BATFE "Orange Book" even specifically defines car airbag actuators as
> >>controlled explosives, requiring that your car be kept in a magazine
> >
> >Surely indivi
At 06:05 PM 10/12/2004, Randall Clague wrote:
At 03:33 PM 10/12/2004 -0700, Jerry Durand wrote:
the BATFE "Orange Book" even specifically defines car airbag actuators as
controlled explosives, requiring that your car be kept in a magazine
Surely individual car owners are exempt if the airbag actua
At 03:33 PM 10/12/2004 -0700, Jerry Durand wrote:
the BATFE "Orange Book" even specifically defines car airbag actuators as
controlled explosives, requiring that your car be kept in a magazine
Surely individual car owners are exempt if the airbag actuator is in the
car and has not been tampered w
At 11:30 AM 10/11/2004, Andrew Tubbiolo wrote:
While parusing the ATF web page to look for regulations that would
apply to liquid O2 - C3H8, and O2 - Kero, I found this ...
http://www.atf.gov/forms/notices/04-7020.pdf
Under the "L" listing, liquid O2 'explosives' is listed as a single entry.
Al
Randall Clague said:
> No; the oxidizer based explosive mixtures they're talking about are
> oxidizer/carbon mixes commonly used in mining. Carbon black and LOX is a
> common mixture. Needless to say, do not try this at home; it's flippin'
> dangerous. ATF regulation of such mixtures is quite
At 06:30 PM 10/11/2004 +, Andrew Tubbiolo wrote:
Under the "L" listing, liquid O2 'explosives' is listed as a single entry.
Also under "P" is listed 'Peroxide based explosive mixtures'. So does this
mean that a liquid rocket engine using LO2 or H2O2 is considered an
explosive?
No; the oxidizer
On Mon, 11 Oct 2004, Andrew Tubbiolo wrote:
> Under the "L" listing, liquid O2 'explosives' is listed as a single entry.
> Also under "P" is listed 'Peroxide based explosive mixtures'. So does this
> mean that a liquid rocket engine using LO2 or H2O2 is considered an
> explosive?
Note the word "mi
Hi All:
While parusing the ATF web page to look for regulations that would
apply to liquid O2 - C3H8, and O2 - Kero, I found this ...
http://www.atf.gov/forms/notices/04-7020.pdf
Under the "L" listing, liquid O2 'explosives' is listed as a single entry.
Also under "P" is listed 'Peroxide ba
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