Re: [Eug-lug] Sexiest Piece of networking gear you'll see all week

2007-02-22 Thread Mr O
Problem there; my current system is a Core 2 Duo box. It doesn't generate nearly the warmth of the old P4 and flat out whips the pants off of it. End result, the room is colder this year. I did clock it a bit higher today but it hasn't seemed to have made a difference yet. That be all, Mr O. ---

Re: [Eug-lug] Would you guys mind padding this a little bit?

2007-02-22 Thread Ben Barrett
I agreed, Bob -- I'll 2nd the beating of that crusty corpse :) On 2/22/07, Bob Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Jason LaPier wrote: > I withdraw my request. I kinda like having one version of Firefox that > doesn't support Flash. I know this horse is dead and well beaten, but I want to bring

Re: [Eug-lug] Would you guys mind padding this a little bit?

2007-02-22 Thread Bob Miller
Jason LaPier wrote: > I withdraw my request. I kinda like having one version of Firefox that > doesn't support Flash. I know this horse is dead and well beaten, but I want to bring up one related topic. FlashBlock is a very nifty Firefox plugin that replaces each embedded Flash object with a bu

Re: [Eug-lug] Daylight Savings as of 2007

2007-02-22 Thread Garl Grigsby
Thanks Garl... NP. This looks very very similar to what I tried the other day and I got my machine's time all fubar... the 'w' command would show a time 8 hour sin the future, system clock showed current time... messing around with them just made it worse... luckily I had backed up /etc/l

Re: [Eug-lug] Would you guys mind padding this a little bit?

2007-02-22 Thread larry price
I run Ubuntu on amd64, the absence of flash doesn't bother me too much, I did have the whole fakeroot 32-bit environment up at one point for that (and google earth, which is a whole nother planet of rant) but wound up just using the laptop for that stuff because the emulation was slow and makes X

Re: [Eug-lug] Would you guys mind padding this a little bit?

2007-02-22 Thread Ben Barrett
OS-level memory management is still much better, right, even when running 32-bit apps (or virtualized 32-bit instances) on 64-bit hardware (with 64-bit OS)? Presumed corollary: I thought the bigger gains were at an OS level for most *common* apps, except for media-heavy apps. Are there any 64-bi

RE: [Eug-lug] Would you guys mind padding this a little bit?

2007-02-22 Thread Jason LaPier
> > Jason LaPier wrote: > > > Also, I may be a tad stubborn. So don't bother trying to > convince me I > > wouldn't be able to tell the difference between Firefox > compiled for > > 64-bit and FF compiled for 32-bit. > > Obviously, you can tell the difference. The 64-bit binary is > the on

Re: [Eug-lug] Daylight Savings as of 2007

2007-02-22 Thread Matthew Jarvis
Matthew Jarvis wrote: Followed the above verbatim and have the same problem the only thing w/ correct lines are /America/Los_Angeles Again, glad I had a backup p.s. this is a slackware distro I'm trying this on... Matthew S. Jarvis IT Manager Bike Friday - "Performance that Packs

Re: [Eug-lug] Daylight Savings as of 2007

2007-02-22 Thread Matthew Jarvis
Garl Grigsby wrote: Matthew, Just in case you never got this done, here is what I developed as a procedure for updating older Redhat 7.3 and 9.0 systems. So far, this has worked on all the systems I've tried. Garl Steps to update Time Zone data on older (redhat) systems. NOTE: newer syst

Re: [Eug-lug] Would you guys mind padding this a little bit?

2007-02-22 Thread Bob Miller
Jason LaPier wrote: > Also, I may be a tad stubborn. So don't bother trying to convince me I > wouldn't be able to tell the difference between Firefox compiled for > 64-bit and FF compiled for 32-bit. Obviously, you can tell the difference. The 64-bit binary is the one with no Flash support. (-:

Re: [Eug-lug] Would you guys mind padding this a little bit?

2007-02-22 Thread Bob Miller
Jason LaPier wrote: > My complaint is based on the fact that I use a 64-bit version of > Firefox [with no Flash plugin]. I should have asked, "What's the advantage of running 64-bit Firefox?" -- Bob Miller K [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Eug-lug] Daylight Savings as of 2007

2007-02-22 Thread Garl Grigsby
Garl Grigsby wrote: 8. cp -Rf zoneinfo/ /usr/share/zoneinfo/ Minor update. This should be: 8. cp -Rf zoneinfo/ /usr/share/ ___ EUGLUG mailing list euglug@euglug.org http://www.euglug.org/mailman/listinfo/euglug

Re: [Eug-lug] Daylight Savings as of 2007

2007-02-22 Thread Garl Grigsby
Revisiting this as time draws near... My servers here at the office aren't updated with the revised stuff... however, my offsite webserver is Using this URL/thread as a guide: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=518752 I seems that one needs to regenerate a file ca

Re: [Eug-lug] Would you guys mind padding this a little bit?

2007-02-22 Thread Ben Barrett
Anyone got root on his box? Just remove the 64-bit and symlink to the 32-bit, no convincing needed ;) I'm still fairly entranced by OS X and don't have any convincing reasons to resume use of linux as my primary desktop, so my biggest problems are a few danglies not yet built as universal binari

Re: [Eug-lug] Sexiest Piece of networking gear you'll see all week

2007-02-22 Thread Allen Brown
Now if you connect a recharger to the car battery you have one hell of a UPS. That's what I want to do with my computer. Currently I am running my APC from a 100AH deep cycle marine battery. But cutting out the middle man would give better capacity. -- Allen Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://brow

Re: [Eug-lug] OT -- Forge

2007-02-22 Thread Ben Barrett
Thanks Allen -- looks like a mint-condition anvil there :) I've been smithing with friends almost weekly for about 14 months, and since I got my first home I've been tooling up my own shop with my increased free time. I'm interested in casting too -- found this site inspiring: http://backyardmeta

RE: [Eug-lug] Would you guys mind padding this a little bit?

2007-02-22 Thread Jason LaPier
Because 64 is something like twice as much as 32. Also, I may be a tad stubborn. So don't bother trying to convince me I wouldn't be able to tell the difference between Firefox compiled for 64-bit and FF compiled for 32-bit. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [Eug-lug] OT -- Forge

2007-02-22 Thread Allen Brown
Ben Barrett wrote: > But I don't want any waste heat... I'd like to minimize the "waste" by > putting it > into a heat pump... another input will be my propane forge, which is almost > built. > > Cars: just a temporary hang-up, I suppose... being out of regular work has > begun to change my attit

Re: [Eug-lug] Would you guys mind padding this a little bit?

2007-02-22 Thread Ben Barrett
So I think the question is, "why use the 64-bit version?" On 2/22/07, Jason LaPier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Jason LaPier wrote: > > > While we're at it, where's the one for Flash support on AMD64 (so I > > don't have to have two versions of Firefox installed)? > > How often does your

RE: [Eug-lug] Would you guys mind padding this a little bit?

2007-02-22 Thread Jason LaPier
> > Jason LaPier wrote: > > > While we're at it, where's the one for Flash support on AMD64 (so I > > don't have to have two versions of Firefox installed)? > > How often does your 'Fox exceed 2 gigabytes? > > -- > Bob Miller K >

Re: [Eug-lug] Sexiest Piece of networking gear you'll see all week

2007-02-22 Thread Ben Barrett
But I don't want any waste heat... I'd like to minimize the "waste" by putting it into a heat pump... another input will be my propane forge, which is almost built. Cars: just a temporary hang-up, I suppose... being out of regular work has begun to change my attitudes, I fear in a somewhat back-

Re: [Eug-lug] Would you guys mind padding this a little bit?

2007-02-22 Thread Ben Barrett
Yeah, and does this allow you to exceed the 4-million-tab limit?? I have troubles with that one... I guess I need nested tabs to start with :) On 2/22/07, Bob Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Jason LaPier wrote: > While we're at it, where's the one for Flash support on AMD64 (so I > don't ha

Re: [Eug-lug] Would you guys mind padding this a little bit?

2007-02-22 Thread Bob Miller
Jason LaPier wrote: > While we're at it, where's the one for Flash support on AMD64 (so I > don't have to have two versions of Firefox installed)? How often does your 'Fox exceed 2 gigabytes? -- Bob Miller K [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [Eug-lug] Would you guys mind padding this a little bit?

2007-02-22 Thread Justin Bengtson
I'm not sure if there is one, but TerraSoft (makers of Yellow Dog) have a link and a template for requesting features through Adobe here: http://yellowdog-board.com/viewtopic.php?p=4800 --- Jason LaPier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > While we're at it, where's the one for Flash support > on AMD64

RE: [Eug-lug] Would you guys mind padding this a little bit?

2007-02-22 Thread Jason LaPier
While we're at it, where's the one for Flash support on AMD64 (so I don't have to have two versions of Firefox installed)? - Jason L. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Justin Bengtson > Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 9:34 PM > To

Re: [Eug-lug] Sexiest Piece of networking gear you'll see all week

2007-02-22 Thread Bob Miller
Ben Barrett wrote: > It'll be years away, but I envision building a heat interchange > from a server rack to assist a central hvac+water heating/cooling > system, as are currently augmented by geothermal and > solar roof setups. Or, maybe the money is better invested > in a Tesla, re: R&D :) Her

Re: [Eug-lug] Sexiest Piece of networking gear you'll see all week

2007-02-22 Thread Bob Miller
Mr O wrote: > Not if that overpriced car is a Tesla: > http://www.teslamotors.com/ > > 100% of profits go into making the technology more affordable. > They were down to under $90,000 last I read. I heard a rumor yesterday that Tesla's second model will be about half that price. Practically Hyu

Re: [Eug-lug] Sexiest Piece of networking gear you'll see all week

2007-02-22 Thread Bob Miller
Ben Barrett wrote: > So memory, I don't give a crap about how slow the disks are, sorry :) > If anyone in Eugene does have a disk array that can provide 10Gbps, > please invite me/us over, of course. To the rest of us: yes, good luck > with those crappy spinny things!! Oh, you got a fancy 15K R

Re: [Eug-lug] Sexiest Piece of networking gear you'll see all week

2007-02-22 Thread LinuxRocks!
On Thu, Feb 22, 2007 at 08:50:22AM -0800, Mr O wrote: > Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 08:50:22 -0800 (PST) > From: Mr O <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Eug-lug] Sexiest Piece of networking gear you'll see all week > To: Eugene Unix and Gnu/Linux User Group > > $92,000 base for the Tesla. apon furth

Re: [Eug-lug] Sexiest Piece of networking gear you'll see all week

2007-02-22 Thread Mr O
$92,000 base for the Tesla. That particular router apparently fails regularly so the 'mod' was quite useful actually. That's be Yahoo doing the advertising. Could always use Hotmail and get M$ ads. --- LinuxRocks! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Feb 21, 2007 at 10:57:33PM -0800, Mr O wrote

Re: [Eug-lug] Sexiest Piece of networking gear you'll see all week

2007-02-22 Thread LinuxRocks!
On Wed, Feb 21, 2007 at 11:14:09PM -0800, Mr O wrote: > Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 23:14:09 -0800 (PST) > From: Mr O <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Eug-lug] Sexiest Piece of networking gear you'll see all week > To: Eugene Unix and Gnu/Linux User Group > > Watercool!! Slap some larger heatsinks

Re: [Eug-lug] Sexiest Piece of networking gear you'll see all week

2007-02-22 Thread LinuxRocks!
On Wed, Feb 21, 2007 at 10:57:33PM -0800, Mr O wrote: > Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 22:57:33 -0800 (PST) > From: Mr O <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Eug-lug] Sexiest Piece of networking gear you'll see all week > To: Eugene Unix and Gnu/Linux User Group > > Not if that overpriced car is a Tesla:

[Eug-lug] SAO - Tech Brew Pub tonight

2007-02-22 Thread Matthew Jarvis
Tech Brew Pub Thursday Feb 22 Time: 5:30 - 7:30pm Rogue Tap House, Downstairs Room, 844 Olive Street Cost: Free Topic: "Web Application Rapid Prototyping" Michael White and Paul Berger, Rapid Path Inc. Michael White and Paul Berger will discuss their new startup consultancy, Rapid Path (www.rapi

Re: [Eug-lug] Sexiest Piece of networking gear you'll see all week

2007-02-22 Thread LinuxRocks!
> What applications would you be looking at if you could do 10gigs to > anywhere? Porn. > > cinema quality conferencing? telepresence with full haptic feedback? > massively cross-connected internet scale grid computing? > > On 2/21/07, Mr O <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Still missing the fact

Re: [Eug-lug] keyboard equivalent?

2007-02-22 Thread erock23175
If I were aware of that little hardware glitch I'd be alright. Otherwise my responses would be much less civilixed! lol -E -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: euglug@euglug.org Sent: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 11:06 PM Subject: Re: [Eug-lug] keyboard equivalent? Ben Barr