Re: [Eug-lug] Ethernet problems on "new" used machine

2009-11-19 Thread marbux
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 11:24 PM, Bob Miller wrote: Hi, Bob, > Lowest: hardware.  Card is seated, cable is good, cable is plugged > in securely at both ends.  (Have you swapped cables yet?) Yes. > Electrical connectivity between the CPU and the NIC.  Run > "lspci | grep Ether".  Verify you see

Re: [Eug-lug] Ethernet problems on "new" used machine

2009-11-19 Thread Bob Miller
Let's be a little systematic. Roughly, you need to test from lowest to highest level. If something is broken at some level, don' t mess with higher levels until you get the first problem resolved. Lowest: hardware. Card is seated, cable is good, cable is plugged in securely at both ends. (Have

Re: [Eug-lug] Ethernet problems on "new" used machine

2009-11-19 Thread marbux
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 10:25 PM, Allen Brown wrote: > Curious.  I expected to see both eth0 and eth1.  If there is > only one then it seems either the built in or the plug in > is not recognized by the kernel.  Have you tried plugging > the new ethernet card into the old computer? Missed answeri

Re: [Eug-lug] Ethernet problems on "new" used machine

2009-11-19 Thread marbux
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 10:25 PM, Allen Brown wrote: > Curious.  I expected to see both eth0 and eth1.  If there is > only one then it seems either the built in or the plug in > is not recognized by the kernel.  Have you tried plugging > the new ethernet card into the old computer? > > I also find

Re: [Eug-lug] Ethernet problems on "new" used machine

2009-11-19 Thread Allen Brown
Curious. I expected to see both eth0 and eth1. If there is only one then it seems either the built in or the plug in is not recognized by the kernel. Have you tried plugging the new ethernet card into the old computer? I also find it curious that eth0 has non-zero RX and TX numbers. That means

Re: [Eug-lug] Ethernet problems on "new" used machine

2009-11-19 Thread marbux
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 9:17 PM, Fred James wrote: > Not that this would improve your results in this case but ... in the absence > of a specific on/off switch (many of these little devices seem to be devoid > of them), we do it the crude way - unplug and plug-in the power cord (from > the wall or

Re: [Eug-lug] Ethernet problems on "new" used machine

2009-11-19 Thread marbux
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 9:48 PM, Allen Brown wrote: > When the new computer is connected to the router or modem (but not > working) what does ifconfig say? Hi, Allen, ifconfig gives: eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:17:31:81:3f:59 inet6 addr: fe80::217:31ff:fe81:3f59/64 Scope:

Re: [Eug-lug] Ethernet problems on "new" used machine

2009-11-19 Thread Allen Brown
When the new computer is connected to the router or modem (but not working) what does ifconfig say? -- Allen Brown abrown at peak.org http://brown.armoredpenguin.com/~abrown/ The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the stree

Re: [Eug-lug] Ethernet problems on "new" used machine

2009-11-19 Thread James Kaplan
netmask? cabelage? --Kaplan marbux wrote: On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 6:11 PM, Fred James wrote: Have you tried tuning off the comcast modem between machines? - comcast always told me to turn it off for > 1 minute forces the modem to "reset" - YMMV. On the power up, first the modem, then t

Re: [Eug-lug] Email gone mad

2009-11-19 Thread Allen Brown
Once I fixed the /etc/profile problem most (all?) of the problems cleared up, even with nullmailer running. What did the "me" file affect? -- Allen Brown http://brown.armoredpenguin.com/~abrown/ Kirk Johnson who admired Saber Tooth Cats --- Walruses are just Saber Tooth Seals. > Allen Brown

Re: [Eug-lug] Ethernet problems on "new" used machine

2009-11-19 Thread Fred James
marbux wrote: On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 6:11 PM, Fred James wrote: Have you tried tuning off the comcast modem between machines? - comcast always told me to turn it off for > 1 minute forces the modem to "reset" - YMMV. On the power up, first the modem, then the computer Hi, Fred, M

Re: [Eug-lug] Ethernet problems on "new" used machine

2009-11-19 Thread marbux
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 6:11 PM, Fred James wrote: > Have you tried tuning off the comcast modem between machines? - comcast > always told me to turn it off for > 1 minute forces the modem to "reset" - > YMMV. >   On the power up, first the modem, then the computer Hi, Fred, My modem doesn't ha

Re: [Eug-lug] Ethernet problems on "new" used machine

2009-11-19 Thread marbux
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 4:37 PM, Darrough, James wrote: > Open the router box. > Take out the router. Router installed and old machine works through it, but the new one doesn't. The lights on the router indicate the second machine is connected. But no internet connection on the new machine. A si

Re: [Eug-lug] Ethernet problems on "new" used machine

2009-11-19 Thread Fred James
marbux wrote: On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 4:28 PM, Darrough, James wrote: I have seen problems with some of the DSL and Cable modems such that they do NOT issue more than one ip address. That was what I was getting at. I helped my mechanic set up his system, and no matter what we did I could n

Re: [Eug-lug] Ethernet problems on "new" used machine

2009-11-19 Thread marbux
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 4:31 PM, Matthew Robinson wrote: > Simple solution if this is the problem: > Clone your nic's mac address from the working machine to the new one. Just did but no joy. Best regards, Paul -- Universal Interoperability Council __

RE: [Eug-lug] Ethernet problems on "new" used machine

2009-11-19 Thread Darrough, James
Open the router box. Take out the router. Turn off the Comcast modem. Unplug the Comcast modem from your computer. Plug the end into the WAN port of your new router. Plug in the router. Turn on the Comcast modem. Turn on the router. Wait 5 minutes. Plug your old computer into one of the router por

Re: [Eug-lug] Ethernet problems on "new" used machine

2009-11-19 Thread marbux
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 4:28 PM, Darrough, James wrote: > I have seen problems with some of the DSL and Cable modems such that they do > NOT issue more than one ip address. That was what I was getting at. I helped > my mechanic set up his system, and no matter what we did I could not get the >

Re: [Eug-lug] Ethernet problems on "new" used machine

2009-11-19 Thread Matthew Robinson
Simple solution if this is the problem: Clone your nic's mac address from the working machine to the new one. Or just keep your new machine plugged in (overnight or something) and wait for your Comcast DHCP lease to expire. Something like that. On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 4:28 PM, Darrough, James

RE: [Eug-lug] Ethernet problems on "new" used machine

2009-11-19 Thread Darrough, James
I have seen problems with some of the DSL and Cable modems such that they do NOT issue more than one ip address. That was what I was getting at. I helped my mechanic set up his system, and no matter what we did I could not get the modem to issue an ip to more than one box. I ended up putting a r

Re: [Eug-lug] Ethernet problems on "new" used machine

2009-11-19 Thread marbux
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Darrough, James wrote: > Do you have a router attached to your Comcast modem? No, although Netstat shows routing table info on the old machine but shows nothing on the new machine. > If not, then your modem is not doing DHCP and issuing an ip address (maybe). >

RE: [Eug-lug] Ethernet problems on "new" used machine

2009-11-19 Thread Darrough, James
Do you have a router attached to your Comcast modem? If not, then your modem is not doing DHCP and issuing an ip address (maybe). Or you have your network setup on the Linux machine for static ip. Regards, Jim -Original Message- From: euglug-boun...@euglug.org [mailto:euglug-boun...@eug

[Eug-lug] Ethernet problems on "new" used machine

2009-11-19 Thread marbux
Hi, folks, Can't seem to work this through with the aid of Google. I'm down to seeking help. I recently acquired a second, used AMD 64-bit box with an ASUS motherboard. It came with WinXP Pro and didn't get an internet connection to Comcast. Acting on a suspicion that the onboard ethernet connect

Re: [Eug-lug] Email gone mad

2009-11-19 Thread Alan
Allen Brown wrote: It says "mail." Seems pretty useless. And there is no man page or info page for nullmailer. I think software without a man page should be banned from the distribution. But maybe that's just me. The manpage for nullmailer is pretty useless anyway. Try creating the file

Re: [Eug-lug] Email gone mad

2009-11-19 Thread Larry Price
nullmailer is equivalent to a submit-only mail server; you can run a unix system without mail; but it is very handy at times. Most of my servers send me security reports and exception reports for the services they are running. On Nov 19, 2009, at 2:35 PM, Allen Brown wrote: Allen Brown wr

Re: [Eug-lug] Email gone mad

2009-11-19 Thread Allen Brown
> Allen Brown wrote: > But I would prefer to know >> what it was complaining about. > > You can look in /var/spool/nullmailer/queue for the actual messages to > see what is carping. That helps! Cron is having trouble. I've set up a personal cron to run every minute. It runs a script which decid

Re: [Eug-lug] Email gone mad

2009-11-19 Thread Alan
Allen Brown wrote: But I would prefer to know what it was complaining about. You can look in /var/spool/nullmailer/queue for the actual messages to see what is carping. Also look in /etc/nullmailer/remotes to see where it wants to send mail. Chances are the host is either wrong or non-existe

Re: [Eug-lug] Email gone mad

2009-11-19 Thread Allen Brown
I just tried pinging two outside sites. No problem. Besides, why would it need this if it is just serving pages? -- Allen Brown abrown at peak.org http://brown.armoredpenguin.com/~abrown/ o o oo oo>o .|.\|. \|/ //X \ |<|<|> /\

Re: [Eug-lug] Email gone mad

2009-11-19 Thread Larry Price
It looks like DNS is down for the box. Outside world can resolve it, but it can't resolve the rest of the world. On Nov 19, 2009, at 12:10 PM, Allen Brown wrote: My usual web server is dying so I replaced it temporarily with my netbook. I brought up apache and after fixing some permission

[Eug-lug] Email gone mad

2009-11-19 Thread Allen Brown
My usual web server is dying so I replaced it temporarily with my netbook. I brought up apache and after fixing some permissions all was well. Or so I thought. Something is not happy. And I don't know what. My log files are now filling up with messages of failed email. Each of the files /var

RE: [Eug-lug] puter 4 grama

2009-11-19 Thread Darrough, James
About time. -Original Message- From: euglug-boun...@euglug.org [mailto:euglug-boun...@euglug.org] On Behalf Of Alan Crandall Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 10:38 AM To: Eugene Unix and Gnu/Linux User Group Subject: [Eug-lug] puter 4 grama http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8352606.s

[Eug-lug] puter 4 grama

2009-11-19 Thread Alan Crandall
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8352606.stm and Linux based ! ___ EUGLUG mailing list euglug@euglug.org http://www.euglug.org/mailman/listinfo/euglug