Re: [Eug-lug] Need some pointers on setting up my Ubuntu Box with a RAID 0

2007-11-18 Thread Quentin Hartman
On Nov 17, 2007 11:19 AM, Eponymous <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks for the tip Quentin and Garl > > This MoBo just has one promise chip, that I can see, so that leads me > to assume its a Fakeraid, because a true RAID controller card has a > lot more to it...kind of a dumb size matters approa

Re: [Eug-lug] Need some pointers on setting up my Ubuntu Box with a RAID 0

2007-11-17 Thread Eponymous
Thanks for the tip Quentin and Garl This MoBo just has one promise chip, that I can see, so that leads me to assume its a Fakeraid, because a true RAID controller card has a lot more to it...kind of a dumb size matters approach, but I'll look into this. Brian On Nov 16, 2007 1:42 PM, Garl Grigs

Re: [Eug-lug] Need some pointers on setting up my Ubuntu Box with a RAID 0 (rant around the block)

2007-11-16 Thread Quentin Hartman
On Nov 16, 2007 3:23 PM, Ben Barrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Excellent data point, a great example given recent EUGLUG threads ;) > > As for SCSI-vs-SATA, it strikes me that the enterprise swing to > commodity clustering, > thanks even to the biggest irons, have brought enterprise-grade > eng

Re: [Eug-lug] Need some pointers on setting up my Ubuntu Box with a RAID 0 (rant around the block)

2007-11-16 Thread Ben Barrett
Excellent data point, a great example given recent EUGLUG threads ;) As for SCSI-vs-SATA, it strikes me that the enterprise swing to commodity clustering, thanks even to the biggest irons, have brought enterprise-grade engineering across to commodity formats. For example, many blades use 2.5" har

Re: [Eug-lug] Need some pointers on setting up my Ubuntu Box with a RAID 0 (rant around the block)

2007-11-16 Thread Ben Barrett
Quentin, spot on! One point I failed to digress to is power -- beware, when taking your first stabs at raid arrays, not to overload your system power supply. When a normal PC powers up, all its drives spin up in sequence, and the load is a sudden high power draw, which can blow out commonly-availa

Re: [Eug-lug] Need some pointers on setting up my Ubuntu Box with a RAID 0 (rant around the block)

2007-11-16 Thread Quentin Hartman
On Nov 16, 2007 2:07 PM, Ben Barrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Right on, thanks Quentin -- this better-defined "fakeraid" is much > worse than soft-raid in many cases, I'd amend this to say _all_ cases. Fakeraid is a technological abomination, created by marketing departments and unchecked ca

Re: [Eug-lug] Need some pointers on setting up my Ubuntu Box with a RAID 0 (rant around the block)

2007-11-16 Thread Ben Barrett
Right on, thanks Quentin -- this better-defined "fakeraid" is much worse than soft-raid in many cases, I think, because drive recovery after say mobo failure could be extremely difficult unless you have an identical board (or close-enough chipset) available on reserve... with soft-raid, provided yo

Re: [Eug-lug] Need some pointers on setting up my Ubuntu Box with a RAID 0

2007-11-16 Thread Garl Grigsby
Quentin Hartman wrote: On Nov 15, 2007 9:29 AM, Ben Barrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto ("Fake" raid is soft raid, nothing really fake about it) I don't know why software RAID does not get more respect these

Re: [Eug-lug] Need some pointers on setting up my Ubuntu Box with a RAID 0

2007-11-16 Thread Quentin Hartman
On Nov 15, 2007 9:29 AM, Ben Barrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto ("Fake" raid is soft raid, > nothing really fake about it) > I don't know why software RAID does not get more respect these days. When > processors were just babies, > hardware raid w

Re: [Eug-lug] Need some pointers on setting up my Ubuntu Box with a RAID 0

2007-11-16 Thread Eponymous
I'm going to try it your way, but I'll need to test this out. I'll be keeping you updated on my progress, I've got a lot to do, but at least I'm on the path. To answer one of your queries, no, I'm trying to get out of Windows. I have another box, that's a P4 with SATA drives in a RAID 0 config ru

Re: [Eug-lug] Need some pointers on setting up my Ubuntu Box with a RAID 0

2007-11-16 Thread Eponymous
Thanks Ben, I can see that I have a lot of work to do, I'll be filling you in on my progress. I think I will go with what Mr. O saying about hardware controllers, but, once again, I've got a lot of work to do, I'm in a learning curve, let's see how this pans out. This will be a slow and deliberate

Re: [Eug-lug] Need some pointers on setting up my Ubuntu Box with a RAID 0

2007-11-15 Thread Mr O
0 is striping, 1 is mirroring. Easiest way to remebmer: 0 means 0 percent chance of recovery in failure, 1 is 1 chance. If you're sharing with Windows and an onboard controller you're going to have to do softRAID. True hardware RAID controllers make the individual drives transparent to the OS. Per

Re: [Eug-lug] Need some pointers on setting up my Ubuntu Box with a RAID 0

2007-11-15 Thread Ben Barrett
Check out http://lbs.sourceforge.net/ for a benchmarking suite, also http://members.optusnet.com.au/ckolivas/interbench/ I use VLC cross-platform ( videolan.org ) but I didn't see much benchmarking in their wiki. I found some older benchmarks for 2.4 kernel on embedded platforms: http://elinux

Re: [Eug-lug] Need some pointers on setting up my Ubuntu Box with a RAID 0

2007-11-15 Thread Eponymous
All I want is speed out of this box, got some PR to do with Windoz types, so I'll take some time setting this up, test each configuration. I know this is not the best hardware, but it's what I have. Which brings me to my other point, how would I test performance cross-platform, for video. I see

Re: [Eug-lug] Need some pointers on setting up my Ubuntu Box with a RAID 0

2007-11-15 Thread Ben Barrett
My suggestion is to avoid use of the hardware raid, and use software raid via linux. Also, be familiar with and refer to google's wealth :) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Raid http://www.howtoforge.com/linux_software_raid https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto ("Fake" raid is soft raid, nothing

[Eug-lug] Need some pointers on setting up my Ubuntu Box with a RAID 0

2007-11-15 Thread Eponymous
I'm happy to report that I have finally gotten to where I want to be with Linux. Of course I did nothing; it was Ubuntu 7.10 in the Kitchen with the pipe wrench - the CLUE'less one Now I am going to reconfigure this box to start Blending. I've had a great experience with my XP RAID 0 box, so I'm