Re: [Eug-lug] Crappy Cow

On 5/4/07, Mr O <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Holy Cow!! is all I have to say. Y'all rant a bit too much. There is this thing called "AUTOMATIX" for Ubuntu. Everyone but Alan's wife would be just fine using it. I'd be cautious there. When I was running Kubuntu 6.06 my system went buggy a few week

Re: [Eug-lug] Crappy Cow

On Fri, 2007-05-04 at 19:42 -0700, Mr O wrote: > One thing to do though would make a "Proprietary Packages" > alongside the "restricted drivers" in Ubuntu. That way you can > point and click Adobe Acrobat Reader, Adobe Macromedia Flash, > Sun Java, & RealPlayer. Then for each you would be expected

Re: [Eug-lug] Crappy Cow

Holy Cow!! is all I have to say. Y'all rant a bit too much. There is this thing called "AUTOMATIX" for Ubuntu. Everyone but Alan's wife would be just fine using it. Heck, if you don't like the "legal status" of some of that stuff then do your complaining to the copyright holders and not the distr

Re: [Eug-lug] Crappy Cow

Personally I don't get why he was so peeved about having to install Flash. As I recall I had to do the same thing when I installed 6.06. Granted they've had 2 releases since then, just the same I didn't see it as an excuse to rip the whole distro over. Then again if the OS migration tool doesn't

Re: [Eug-lug] Crappy Cow

On Fri, 2007-05-04 at 14:16 -1000, marbux wrote: > Microsoft's claims that the Linux kernel infringes their patents > can't be tested because only the big boys like IBM could afford to do > so and they won't for fear of triggering Patent Armageddon amongst the > big players. In brief, just one big

Re: [Eug-lug] Crappy Cow

On 5/4/07, roger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: When the click & users being our parents (<-- will always be click & play fans) and other windows attached users just expect things to work. As someone who spent a lot of years troubleshooting WordPerfect issues on Windows on a volunteer P2P support

Re: [Eug-lug] Crappy Cow

Jason LaPier wrote: Isn't Canonical based in France as well? The founder, Mark Shuttleworth is from South Africa, but Canonical has a main office in London (other offices 'round the world). Officially, it's registered in the Isle of Man; which I believe means they aren't operating under any

RE: [Eug-lug] Crappy Cow

> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Garl Grigsby > Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 4:15 PM > To: Eugene Unix and Gnu/Linux User Group > Subject: Re: [Eug-lug] Crappy Cow > > alan wrote: > > Mandriva is a Frenc

Re: [Eug-lug] Crappy Cow

alan wrote: Mandriva is a French company. They are operating under a different set of laws. (Some say a different reality as well.) Isn't Canonical based in France as well? Garl ___ EUGLUG mailing list euglug@euglug.org http://www.euglug.org/mailman

Re: [Eug-lug] Crappy Cow

On Fri, 4 May 2007, terry na wrote: As far as NASA .gov goes they are using are tax money unwisely with a windows OS they have a alternative in Linux and they save $$$ when they compose videos the Ubuntu defult software will view there videos. my 2 cents and fairly new to Ubuntu. They use flas

Re: [Eug-lug] Crappy Cow

As far as NASA .gov goes they are using are tax money unwisely with a windows OS they have a alternative in Linux and they save $$$ when they compose videos the Ubuntu defult software will view there videos. my 2 cents and fairly new to Ubuntu. On 5/4/07, Fred James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

RE: [Eug-lug] Crappy Cow

> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of roger > Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 1:20 PM > To: Eugene Unix and Gnu/Linux User Group > Subject: RE: [Eug-lug] Crappy Cow > > > > And they have a button at the top t

RE: [Eug-lug] Crappy Cow

On Fri, 4 May 2007, Jason LaPier wrote: Jason. I don't believe this. Again, Mandriva (Mandrake when I was using it), is almost a trouble free install with some minor h/w install hiccups. Ubuntu is basically a trouble free install (as easy as a Windows install)... only lacking Flash & Video co

RE: [Eug-lug] Crappy Cow

>> > roger wrote: >> >> You mean like this? >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo apt-get install w32codecs >> Reading package lists... Done >> Building dependency tree >> Reading state information... Done >> w32codecs is already the newest version. >> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not up

RE: [Eug-lug] Crappy Cow

> And they have a button at the top that says "non-flash version" (the > site looks pretty much the same in either version). You don't need > Adobe's Reader to view PDFs, there are a ton of open-source pdf readers. Just curious, have you tried playing the kid games without flash? There are some

RE: [Eug-lug] Crappy Cow

On Fri, 2007-05-04 at 12:52 -0700, Alan wrote: > > roger wrote: > Ubuntu is basically a trouble free install (as easy as a > > Windows install)... only lacking Flash & Video codec issues, for which, > > Mandriva and other distros have already resolved with a simple package > > install. > > > > Yo

RE: [Eug-lug] Crappy Cow

> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of roger > Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 12:30 PM > To: Eugene Unix and Gnu/Linux User Group > Subject: RE: [Eug-lug] Crappy Cow > > On Fri, 2007-05-04 at 12:00 -0700, Jason LaP

RE: [Eug-lug] Crappy Cow

> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of roger > Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 12:43 PM > To: Eugene Unix and Gnu/Linux User Group > Subject: RE: [Eug-lug] Crappy Cow > > > Another thing to think about on this is

RE: [Eug-lug] Crappy Cow

> roger wrote: Ubuntu is basically a trouble free install (as easy as a > Windows install)... only lacking Flash & Video codec issues, for which, > Mandriva and other distros have already resolved with a simple package > install. > You mean like this? [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo apt-get install w32

Re: [Eug-lug] Crappy Cow

> On Fri, 4 May 2007, roger wrote: Are you trolling or what? > > When the click & users being our parents (<-- will always be click & > play fans) and other windows attached users just expect things to work. Hand your parents a stock Windows installation(Not a Dell/HP/Gateway distribution) and s

RE: [Eug-lug] Crappy Cow

On Fri, 2007-05-04 at 12:19 -0700, Jason LaPier wrote: > > > > I see no reason why Ubuntu couldn't provide an option during > > install to install 3rd party apps via the network. I don't > > think Adobe is going to want to sue anybody wanting to make > > their format more popular..except for m

Re: [Eug-lug] Crappy Cow

On Fri, 2007-05-04 at 13:56 -0500, Fred James wrote: > Here is a URL to an article from yesterday's InformationWeek, about > the > supreme court on just that topic. > > eh? > Regards > Fred James How I've always seen th

RE: [Eug-lug] Crappy Cow

On Fri, 2007-05-04 at 12:00 -0700, Jason LaPier wrote: > Sadly, it should be up to these people to more adequately point out the > fact that when you get an OS for free, all the stuff that comes with > Windows isn't going to be in there. And rather than complain about > wanting stuff to "just work"

RE: [Eug-lug] Crappy Cow

> > I see no reason why Ubuntu couldn't provide an option during > install to install 3rd party apps via the network. I don't > think Adobe is going to want to sue anybody wanting to make > their format more popular..except for maybe microsoft for > unknown Godly reasons. > > As far as win3

Re: [Eug-lug] Crappy Cow

> > Reading thru all the objections at ExtremeTech, it appears that > > in each case Ubuntu was constrained by license issues. So I > > think the review was unduly harsh. Even he pointed out that > > Ubuntu made it easy to get around these issues. He just wanted > > them to be fixed "out of the

RE: [Eug-lug] Crappy Cow

; -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of alan > Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 11:29 AM > To: Allen Brown; Eugene Unix and Gnu/Linux User Group > Subject: Re: [Eug-lug] Crappy Cow > > On Fri, 4 May 2007, Allen Brown wrote: > > &g

Re: [Eug-lug] Crappy Cow

alan wrote: On Fri, 4 May 2007, Allen Brown wrote: roger wrote: Well, this didn't wet my appetite too much. :-/ http://dl.tv/ Episode 162: A Little Bit Linux: We've got Ubuntu on the desktop. One of our friends at ExtremeTech.com says Ubuntu Feisty Fawn should be called Crappy Cow! Read

Re: [Eug-lug] Crappy Cow

On Fri, 4 May 2007, Allen Brown wrote: roger wrote: Well, this didn't wet my appetite too much. :-/ http://dl.tv/ Episode 162: A Little Bit Linux: We've got Ubuntu on the desktop. One of our friends at ExtremeTech.com says Ubuntu Feisty Fawn should be called Crappy Cow! Reading thru all the

Re: [Eug-lug] Crappy Cow

roger wrote: > Well, this didn't wet my appetite too much. :-/ > > http://dl.tv/ > > Episode 162: > A Little Bit Linux: We've got Ubuntu on the desktop. One of our friends > at ExtremeTech.com says Ubuntu Feisty Fawn should be called Crappy Cow! Reading thru all the objections at ExtremeTech, it

Re: [Eug-lug] Crappy Cow

> Well, this didn't wet my appetite too much. :-/ > > http://dl.tv/ > > Episode 162: > A Little Bit Linux: We've got Ubuntu on the desktop. One of our friends > at ExtremeTech.com says Ubuntu Feisty Fawn should be called Crappy Cow! > And I'm sure lots of giggling was heard in the dorm room when t