Re: Drake still sticking with estimate of 10K civs in MWG

2002-10-12 Thread James McEnanly
Does Dr. Drake mean right now, or over the age of the MWG? It could mean the difference between sending diplomats on our first intertellar mission, or sending archaeologists warren marcus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes! Of all the women I've ever known Earth women are my favorite too! So are so?

Re: Drake still sticking with estimate of 10K civs in MWG

2002-10-12 Thread Robert J. Bradbury
On Fri, 11 Oct 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One can easily take technological progress and project it. How? Could anyone living in 1950 have predicted the personal computer? That isn't relevant. The paper I cited has a graph showing an exponential increase in telescope collecting area.

Re: Drake still sticking with estimate of 10K civs in MWG

2002-10-12 Thread Robert J. Bradbury
On Fri, 11 Oct 2002, LARRY KLAES wrote: My question is, aside from most of our television programs, political and religious attitudes, and our general backwards behavior, what would or could we do to annoy such an advanced society to the point of earning their wrath? Well, gee that sounds

Re: Drake still sticking with estimate of 10K civs in MWG

2002-10-11 Thread JHByrne
In a message dated 10/10/2002 5:32:20 PM Alaskan Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have trouble with this part of the article and wonder if Drake was either misquoted by the media or if Drake knows something we do not? "By his calculations, he estimates one in every 10 million stars

Re: Drake still sticking with estimate of 10K civs in MWG

2002-10-11 Thread Robert J. Bradbury
On Fri, 11 Oct 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not convinced the Drake Formula is complete. After all, presume that there are 100 billion stars in the galaxy. I believe the numbers are up to around 400 billion at this time. Not all of them will be positioned well. Clearly true -- the

Re: Drake still sticking with estimate of 10K civs in MWG

2002-10-11 Thread LARRY KLAES
Robert J. Bradbury writes: So you have to get this -- advanced civilizations can observeus at the level of reading license plates (or more!).We are *so* puny compared to advanced (nanotechnologyenabled) civilizations that it makes no sense at allfor them to bother with us.We just *might* be first

Re: Drake still sticking with estimate of 10K civs in MWG

2002-10-11 Thread JHByrne
Clearly true -- the estimates of nearby GRB (or other highly energetic events) probably place some significant contraints on the development of higher life forms. The Earth may simply have been very very lucky. Luck presupposes that someone was counting on the outcome. If it hadn't happened the

Drake still sticking with estimate of 10K civs in MWG

2002-10-10 Thread LARRY KLAES
SETI chairman relates progress in search for extraterrestrial lifeThe article is here:http://www.iowastatedaily.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2002/09/25/3d91423bb2098 I have trouble with this part of the article and wonder if Drake was either misquoted by the media or if Drake knows something we do