[EVDL] EVLN: Muller's cross-country trip on her e-bicycle solar-trailer

2015-05-27 Thread brucedp5 via EV
http://inmenlo.com/2015/05/20/marissa-muller-takes-off-on-cross-country-trip-riding-a-solar-powered-electric-bike/ Marissa Muller takes off on cross country trip riding a solar-powered electric bike by Linda Hubbard Gulker May 20, 2015 [image

[EVDL] EVLN: EV Driving makes motorists calmer

2015-05-27 Thread brucedp5 via EV
http://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/calm-plug/story-26549037-detail/story.html Keep calm and plug it in By Plymouth Herald | May 21, 2015 [image http://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/images/localworld/ugc-images/276351/Article/images/26549037/10119769-large.jpg (Adult shows child how to plug in) ] A

[EVDL] EVLN: etukusa.com seeks2 wake-up U.S. 2 e-tuk-tuk world around them

2015-05-27 Thread brucedp5 via EV
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3092291/Tuk-tuk-taxi-maker-aims-make-inroads-US.html Will tuk-tuks replace taxis in the US? Company pushing popular Asian rickshaws as a cheaper, greener alternative to cabs By Associated Press 22 May 2015 [images

Re: [EVDL] Design News: Why Aren't Electrical Cars Sales Better? It's the battery.

2015-05-27 Thread Paul Dove via EV
We are still in the innovator stage that's all. No speculation needed. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diffusion_of_innovations Sent from my iPad On May 27, 2015, at 1:37 AM, EVDL Administrator via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: On 26 May 2015 at 6:50, tomw via EV wrote: Plus today with

Re: [EVDL] Design News: Why Aren't Electrical Cars Sales Better? It's the battery.

2015-05-27 Thread John Blair via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Design News: Why Aren't Electrical Cars Sales Better? It's the battery.

2015-05-27 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Peri Hartman wrote: And don't forget the battery replacement cost - perhaps after 10 years or 70K miles? Ben Goren via EV wrote: It seems that batteries are lasting at least as long as ICE engines and transmissions, and replacement new batteries are guaranteed to be much cheaper than

Re: [EVDL] Design News: Why Aren't Electrical Cars Sales Better? It's the battery.

2015-05-27 Thread Al Lumas via EV
The savings in fuel cost will diminish if / when States adopt a tax on each mile you drive your electric vehicle. To offset the drop in gas tax revenue due to EV's one State (Oregon) has already adopted such a tax (1.5 cents per mile) and other's are considering it. Al At 08:30 AM 5/27/2015,

Re: [EVDL] Design News: Why Aren't Electrical Cars Sales Better? It's the battery.

2015-05-27 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
And don't forget the battery replacement cost - perhaps after 10 years or 70K miles? I think these hurdles will diminish but they are real for now. Peri -- Original Message -- From: Al Lumas via EV ev@lists.evdl.org To: ev@lists.evdl.org Sent: 27-May-15 8:52:02 AM Subject: Re:

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Muller's cross-country trip on her e-bicycle solar-trailer

2015-05-27 Thread harry henderson via EV
does anyone know if she needs housing along the way? i'm guessing not with that sleek website and many backers harry Albuquerque, NM current bike: http://www.austinev.org/evalbum/1179 current non-bike: http://evalbum.com/1000 On Wed, 5/27/15,

Re: [EVDL] Design News: Why Aren't Electrical Cars Sales Better? It's the battery.

2015-05-27 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On May 27, 2015, at 8:55 AM, Peri Hartman via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: And don't forget the battery replacement cost - perhaps after 10 years or 70K miles? It seems that batteries are lasting at least as long as ICE engines and transmissions, and replacement new batteries are guaranteed

Re: [EVDL] Design News: Why Aren't Electrical Cars Sales Better? It's the battery.

2015-05-27 Thread Michael Ross via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Design News: Why Aren't Electrical Cars Sales Better? It's the battery.

2015-05-27 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On May 27, 2015, at 8:30 AM, Michael Ross via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: Solar at this time, where I live with low cost electrons ($0.10 /kWh), is not a great investment without subsidies. That's damned cheap electricity. And, at utility scales, the only thing cheaper than solar these days

[EVDL] On the road again.

2015-05-27 Thread damon henry via EV
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[EVDL] Lithium install in Tucson

2015-05-27 Thread Rush Dougherty via EV
Hi all, Some friends here in Tucson bought a S-10 Ranger EV with Nimh a few months ago. After trying to get the pack working again they decided to go with lithium. They bought the new CALB cells, 100AH, for a pack total of 345.6v, 108 cells. They are using the EVIC BMS system

Re: [EVDL] Design News: Why Aren't Electrical Cars Sales Better? It's the battery.

2015-05-27 Thread Peter Eckhoff via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Lithium install in Tucson

2015-05-27 Thread Rush Dougherty via EV
Wups. not an S-10, but a Ford Ranger EV... Rush Tucson AZ -Original Message- From: Rush Dougherty [mailto:r...@ironandwood.org] Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 8:56 AM To: EVDL (ev@lists.evdl.org) Subject: Lithium install in Tucson Hi all, Some friends here in Tucson bought a

Re: [EVDL] Design News: Why Aren't Electrical Cars Sales Better? It's the battery.

2015-05-27 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Design News: Why Aren't Electrical Cars Sales Better? It's the battery.

2015-05-27 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On May 26, 2015, at 11:37 PM, EVDL Administrator via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: Here's one: transparent inductive charging. If we're dreaming, it's a wonderful dream. I don't think it's a very realistic dream, but it's certainly wonderful. As a bonus...going from inductive charging while

Re: [EVDL] Design News: Why Aren't Electrical Cars Sales Better? It's the battery.

2015-05-27 Thread tomw via EV
“/The things that we like about EVs - the smoothness, the silence, the instant torque, zero emissions, refuel at home - just don't seem to be all that important to most people. Besides, in the last 20-30 years, ICEVs have gotten better at a lot of these things./” They sure have! Ice powered

Re: [EVDL] Lithium install in Tucson

2015-05-27 Thread Michael Ross via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Design News: Why Aren't Electrical Cars Sales Better? It's the battery.

2015-05-27 Thread Jamie K via EV
On 5/27/15 10:03 AM, Peter Eckhoff via EV wrote: It's getting there. Right **now** the Leaf has a range of 75 miles. Actually the current model LEAF is rated at 84 miles EPA range. The old rating was based on an average between the at-the-time recommended 80% charge and a 100% charge.

Re: [EVDL] Design News: Why Aren't Electrical Cars Sales Better? It's the battery.

2015-05-27 Thread Peter Eckhoff via EV
I used 75 miles as the range because that is what Consumers Report is currently reporting and I'd rather use an independent testing number especially if reported range drops in winter. Rumors are flying about a 30kWh pack for the 2016 LEAF. If true, that would likely get the range up over 100

Re: [EVDL] On the road again.

2015-05-27 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 27 May 2015 at 9:23, damon henry via EV wrote: After 5 years under the tarp, I put my EV motorcycle back on the road this week. You must have been awfully bored, living under that tarp for all those years! ;-) I purchased 16 Calb CA60ah cells which fit well in my existing battery

Re: [EVDL] Design News: Why Aren't Electrical Cars Sales Better? It's the battery.

2015-05-27 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 27 May 2015 at 11:30, Michael Ross via EV wrote: You didn't account for the roughly 75% reduction in fuel cost to own an EV. But that's the whole point. Many vehicle buyers don't! They think only of the up front cost of the vehicle. There are many reasons that someone might have that

Re: [EVDL] On the road again.

2015-05-27 Thread Willie2 via EV
On 05/27/2015 02:52 PM, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: I wouldn't even do an E-bike lithium battery without a BMS. But that's me, and I know how forgetful I can be! I met this guy the other day: http://evalbum.com/4939 Personally, I'd rather have a BMS than not. OTHO, they have been a

Re: [EVDL] Design News: Why Aren't Electrical Cars Sales Better? It's the battery.

2015-05-27 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 26 May 2015 at 6:50, tomw via EV wrote: Plus today with instant everything, putting up with inconvenience is sooo yesterday. I think you're on to something here. The things that we like about EVs - the smoothness, the silence, the instant torque, zero emissions, refuel at home - just

Re: [EVDL] Design News: Why Aren't Electrical Cars Sales Better? It's the battery.

2015-05-27 Thread Jamie K via EV
On 5/27/15 1:15 PM, Peter Eckhoff via EV wrote: I used 75 miles as the range because that is what Consumers Report is currently reporting and I'd rather use an independent testing number especially if reported range drops in winter. Sure, as we've all experienced, the ranges of vehicles

Re: [EVDL] On the road again.

2015-05-27 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
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