Re: [EVDL] Piezo-power> 10mi of freeway could charge all the EVs inBurbank-CA(?)

2016-08-28 Thread David Nelson via EV
ng existing losses to something useful. -- David D. Nelson http://evalbum.com/1328 http://www.levforum.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20160828/b2697a20/

[EVDL] More EVs, PVs & penalties for buying ice> CA reaching for new climate standards

2016-08-28 Thread brucedp5 via EV
http://www.mercurynews.com/science/ci_30298296/more-electric-cars-more-solar-power-expected-state More electric cars, more solar power expected as state struggles to reach tough new climate standards 08/27/2016 Paul Rogers [image http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site568/2016/0827/2

[EVDL] EVangel-about> Goog-auton-nEV spied, counting EVs: Leaf, Tesla-S, i3, +more

2016-08-28 Thread brucedp5 via EV
I haven't taken a flight in over a decade, so I knew a lot has changed (I would have a steep learning curve to bone-up on since . After navigating the newer method of getting your reservations (flight, lodging, car) on-line, I decided to do a reconnoiter (dry-run) and check out what my 1st flight

[EVDL] EVLN: EV-newswire posts for 20160828

2016-08-28 Thread brucedp5 via EV
-San-Francisco-tp4683478p4683507.html Lawrence's 'SacraTomato' 90+mi trip: Leaf trip to Sacramento-CA ... http://evdl.org/evln/ For all EVLN EV-newswire posts {brucedp.0catch.com} -- View this message in context: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-E

Re: [EVDL] Piezo-power> 10mi of freeway could charge all the EVs inBurbank-CA(?)

2016-08-28 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
sses to something useful. -- David D. Nelson http://evalbum.com/1328 http://www.levforum.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20160828/db79f649/attachment.htm> _

Re: [EVDL] Piezo-power> 10mi of freeway could charge all the EVs in Burbank-CA(?)

2016-08-28 Thread paul dove via EV
n formulating his three laws, Newton simplified his treatment of massive bodies by considering them to be mathematical points with no size or rotation. This allowed him to ignore factors such as friction, air resistance, temperature, material properties, etc., and concentrate on phenomena that c

Re: [EVDL] Piezo-power> 10mi of freeway could charge all the EVs in Burbank-CA(?)

2016-08-28 Thread Jan Steinman via EV
Don’t know what Newton has to do with the laws of thermodynamics, which were developed by Carnot (et. al.) in the 19th century. > On 2016-08-28, at 05:38, paul dove wrote: > > n formulating his three laws, Newton simplified his treatment of massive > bodies by considering them to be mathematic

Re: [EVDL] Piezo-power> 10mi of freeway could charge all the EVs inBurbank-CA(?)

2016-08-28 Thread via EV
> My point is if you can capture some of that loss by adding piezos without > increasing the overall loss then, and this is the important part, you must > have the ability to reduce the loss somewhere else. If you can do that, then > I claim you come out ahead by simply doing that and not adding

Re: [EVDL] EVangel-about> Goog-auton-nEV spied, counting EVs: Leaf, Tesla-S, i3, +more

2016-08-28 Thread Mark Abramowitz via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Piezo-power> 10mi of freeway could charge all the EVs in Burbank-CA(?)

2016-08-28 Thread paul dove via EV
Sorry, I missed his reference then. I was thinking second law of motion. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 28, 2016, at 11:50 AM, Jan Steinman wrote: > > Don’t know what Newton has to do with the laws of thermodynamics, which were > developed by Carnot (et. al.) in the 19th century. > >> On 2016-

Re: [EVDL] Piezo-power> 10mi of freeway could charge all the EVs inBurbank-CA(?)

2016-08-28 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
I probably should drop this but I'm a stubborn beast. Let me present this differently, one more time. Yes, it is "simply deriving energy from the transfer of weight that naturally occurs in going from point A to point B." And to be precise, we're only interested in the vertical vector of A to

Re: [EVDL] Lawrence's 'SacraTomato' 90+mi trip: Leaf trip to Sacramento-CA

2016-08-28 Thread Lawrence Rhodes via EV
Since there seems to be some interest in how I did a 90 mile trip in an 84 miles range EV and still had 25% state of charge left I'll explain. 0 I think it is mostly the stiff Delta wind at work. I did drive the 2 ball method keeping between 4 & 8 miles per kWh. This translates into 45 MPH to

Re: [EVDL] Piezo-power> 10mi of freeway could charge all the EVsinBurbank-CA(?)

2016-08-28 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
Bruce and others, In your example of water going through a Hydro power plant, the water does lose energy, but you do not care about that usually as just running down in the stream the water loses the same energy so harvesting it is beneficial, because there is no purpose for the speed of water runn

Re: [EVDL] Piezo-power> 10mi of freeway could charge all the EVs in Burbank-CA(?)

2016-08-28 Thread Jack Wendel via EV
learn a lot even if it ultimately ends up not being a viable approach. Maybe some other innovative idea or approach might result that is viable. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20160828/

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2016-08-28 Thread Bruce Lawton via EV
OK, Cor's right. So let's let this thread end now. It has very little to do with EVs, other than being a potential contributor to the overall power supply. Thanks! Bruce ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/li

Re: [EVDL] Piezo-power> 10mi of freeway could charge all the EVs inBurbank-CA(?)

2016-08-28 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 28 Aug 2016 at 19:56, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: > in order for this new roadbed to be useful, it must not absorb more > energy than the old roadway ... that means it is possible to build a > new roadway that absorbs less energy than what we currently drive on > ... [why not] just eliminate P a

Re: [EVDL] Lawrence's 'SacraTomato' 90+mi trip: Leaf trip toSacramento-CA

2016-08-28 Thread John Neiswanger via EV
Lawrence, If you were going to CMT, I believe there is charging right across H street on the 2nd level of the parking structure (SE corner). I know they were not hooked up for some time after the garage was built but I think I have seen cars charging as I came to the shows this year and possib