Re: [EVDL] Tesla’s Sneaky Rolling Stops

2022-02-04 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 4 Feb 2022 at 19:16, Michael Ross via EV wrote: > I just want real numbers, not conjecture*. I don't see conjecture here. The Tesla computer didn't record it, but human witnesses were there, and THEY did. > Not saying the comments are wrong, just that it sounds like BS. And it > does. The

[EVDL] PS: Tesla’s Sneaky Rolling Stops

2022-02-04 Thread mark hanson via EV
m/voice/b/0?pli=1#phones> (919) 576-0824 Tablet, Google Phone and Text -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20220204/71c4e170/attachment.html> __

[EVDL] Tesla’s Sneaky Rolling Stops

2022-02-04 Thread mark hanson via EV
ablet, Google Phone and Text -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20220204/1795a5b7/attachment.html> ___ Address messages to ev@lists.e

Re: [EVDL] Tesla’s Sneaky Rolling Stops

2022-02-04 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
What Michael wrote - My understanding is that the driver can always override, so this curvy road business could have been a matter of driver not on board to do their job. - is the crux of the matter. I don't have first hand experience using Tesla's autopilot. Assuming you are paying

Re: [EVDL] Tesla’s Sneaky Rolling Stops

2022-02-04 Thread Michael Ross via EV
t; > > > ___ > Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org > No other addresses in TO and CC fields > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ > LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinf

Re: [EVDL] Tesla’s Sneaky Rolling Stops

2022-02-04 Thread Bill Dube via EV
Michael -     How, exactly, would Mark be able to provide "factual data" on this incident?  If you think about it, how would _anyone_ be able to, since the device that could record the incident data was off-line at the time it happened and this was the root cause of the incident? Mark

Re: [EVDL] Tesla’s Sneaky Rolling Stops

2022-02-04 Thread Michael Ross via EV
part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20220204/7fd56d4f/attachment.html> ___ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.

[EVDL] Tesla’s Sneaky Rolling Stops

2022-02-04 Thread Mark Hanson via EV
Tesla should just drop the whole self driving thing and just focus on a great electric car. My Tesla Y was the only EV I could find with towing capacity for my H20 ski boat and an excellent nationwide charging network. The problem with self driving is when the computer gets a glitch, it drops

[EVDL] Translations (was Re: EV Digest, Vol 111, Issue 16

2022-02-04 Thread Peter VanDerWal via EV
> "rotate on the force" > (remember it was in Dutch, so the actual phrase was "draai aan de kracht.") > Anybody any idea what it meant to say before the translation mangled it? > Yep, it meant: Turn on the power. When I was in Iraq and Afghanistan, I always got a kick out of the notices in the

Re: [EVDL] tesla's sneaky rolling stops

2022-02-04 Thread paul dove via EV
vdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attach