After something like 7 or 9 price rises in the last year, Teslas are
massively overpriced. Tesla now makes the highest profit margin of any US
automaker. Interesting way to "change the world," eh?
My understanding is that they make the highest number of EV's of all the
manufactures (in th
> why fault them for profiting from their groundbreaking work?
Oh sure, I get that. Problem is, they came on at first promising
affordable transportation. Then the Musk-cult mentality took over,
and now they produce high-end vehicles for people with disposable
income who don't mind laying it o
On 12/11/2022 8:18 AM, Mr. Sharkey via EV wrote:
Oh sure, I get that. Problem is, they came on at first promising
affordable transportation. Then the Musk-cult mentality took over, and
now they produce high-end vehicles for people with disposable income
who don't mind laying it out for somethin
There's lots of malaise Tesla - and all the manufacturers, for that
matter - could impose. For example, certain sensors could "stop working"
after some particular time. Or, the right rear door lock could stop
functioning properly. In the worst case, they could brick the car. It
may be difficult
John Lussmyer via EV wrote:
So you are saying that they should first produce a cheaper very low
profit margin vehicle - so that they won't have enough cash to grow
production at a high rate and be able to product a LOT more vehicles?
Henry Ford did. So did VW.
Success can be found by selling
On 12/11/2022 9:32 AM, Lee Hart via EV wrote:
John Lussmyer via EV wrote:
So you are saying that they should first produce a cheaper very low
profit margin vehicle - so that they won't have enough cash to grow
production at a high rate and be able to product a LOT more vehicles?
Henry Ford di
> won't have enough cash to grow production at a high rate and be able to
> product [produce] a LOT more vehicles?
No, as I said, and you quoted, I get that. I guess I am bemoaning,
generally, the direction that vehicle, and apparently all
manufacturing is going.
I know two people who sold li
> So, why isn't the Nissan Leaf outselling Teslas?
Couldn't possibly have anything to do with its appearance, could it? ;-P
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I think Tesla started off right. Sell a very expensive high performance EV. It
let them figure things out on the way and provided good profit margins at low
volumes. BUT they did indicate the long goal was affordable EVs and they
touched that goal briefly before dropping ‘basic’ models in favor
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Why not both?
Sell a very large number of very expensive vehicles with high margin
On 12/12/2022 1:32 am, Lee Hart via EV wrote:
John Lussmyer via EV wrote:
So you are saying that they should first produce a cheaper very low
profit margin vehicle - so that they won't have enough cash to grow
of the rest of us
> >>can't -or won't- afford.
> >> >So you are saying that they should first produce a cheaper very low
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> >>production at a high rate and
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icles for people with disposable income
> >>who don't mind laying it out for something most of the rest of us
> >>can't -or won't- afford.
> >> >So you are saying that they should first produce a cheaper very low
> >>profit margin vehicle - so that th
t;> >>Oh sure, I get that. Problem is, they came on at first promising
> > >>affordable transportation. Then the Musk-cult mentality took over, and
> > >>now they produce high-end vehicles for people with disposable income
> > >>who don't mind layi
On 11 Dec 2022 at 20:32, Peri Hartman via EV wrote:
> Regardless, my main point is Tesla (and others) *could* brick cars or
> certain functionality. But I don't think they will because of enormous
> public backlash.
You have more confidence in corporations than I do.
Who really likes paying
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