October 16, 2014 12:04 PM
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> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Batteries that can be recharged to 70 percent in just
> 2 minutes
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> Rick Beebe via EV wrote:
> > I have two EVs and a PHEV so I'm well aware of the advantages of
> > starting out wit
Lee Hart via EV
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Rick Beebe via EV wrote:
> I have two EVs and a PHEV so I'm well aware of the advantages of
> starting out
Rick Beebe via EV wrote:
I have two EVs and a PHEV so I'm well aware of the advantages of
starting out with a full vehicle every morning. But there are millions
of people who live in places where they can't plug their car in and I
bet some number of them are wishing they could get away from gas.
On Oct 16, 2014, at 9:49 AM, EVDL Administrator via EV
wrote:
> As long as "EVs are ...a poor purchasing decision ..." the
> only way we'll get significant numbers of ordinary folks to buy them is to
> give them (the people, I mean) cash or other monetary incentives.
This is true for most per
On 16 Oct 2014 at 8:54, Rick Beebe via EV wrote:
> EVs are, in general, a poor purchasing decision anyway But
> driving electric isn't about the economics or the convenience. For me
> it's about the environment and where I choose to send my money.
This is a problem for EVs, mostly because p
On 10/15/2014 05:28 PM, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote:
I can't see why I need a high rate of charge at home.
I don't need or want it. But if I lived in an apartment building
where I couldn't plug my car it, being able to zap it full on the
way to or from work might be the deciding factor in whe
>> I can't see why I need a high rate of charge at home.
> I don't need or want it. But if I lived in an apartment building
> where I couldn't plug my car it, being able to zap it full on the
> way to or from work might be the deciding factor in whether I buy one or
not.
Every single day for the
On 10/15/2014 03:04 PM, Ben Goren via EV wrote:
On Oct 15, 2014, at 10:53 AM, Michael Ross
wrote:
I can't see why I need a high rate of charge at home.
Need? Obviously not. Want? Who wouldn't?
I don't need or want it. But if I lived in an apartment building where I
couldn't plug my car i
The number of people buying the high end Tesla cars is and will be
exceedingly small and no concern for the grid operators. The number of
people who will buy a second probably much larger pack for their home (so
they can still charge after a number of cloudy days) will also be very
small. So that
On Oct 15, 2014, at 10:53 AM, Michael Ross wrote:
> I can't see why I need a high rate of charge at home.
Need? Obviously not. Want? Who wouldn't? The question is what it'd cost. You
can be sure Elon himself will have such a station in his own personal garage.
If it "only" costs ten grand or s
I can't see why I need a high rate of charge at home. If you are
economizing you never build for peak demand. However, many cars on the
grid charging slowly still requires some sort of compensatory, mitigating,
constructing effort.
This is not how batteries for cars will be charged at home. May
On Oct 15, 2014, at 10:04 AM, Peter Gabrielsson via EV
wrote:
> As for cellphones the real limiter on how fast you can recharge tends to be
> the connector, cables and power supply.
Cars, too. 10 kWh / minute is 600 kilowatts, a most impressive power transfer
rate. That's going to be a signifi
This is the same stuff Altair Nano was pushing a few years back. We
recharged them to 80%in less than 10 minute IIRC. They made a higher
power/lower capacity prototype cell also that probably could have been
recharged even faster.
The drawback was always energy density, at 80Wh/kg it's just slight
On 14 Oct 2014 at 17:06, David Nelson via EV wrote:
> So much misinformation people have. Li-batteries already last more
> than 2 years, they already charge in under 4 hours if the
> infrastructure can handle it, and why do I need a 5 minute recharge
> when my car is going to be parked for over 8
So much misinformation people have. Li-batteries already last more
than 2 years, they already charge in under 4 hours if the
infrastructure can handle it, and why do I need a 5 minute recharge
when my car is going to be parked for over 8 hours while I sleep?
Don't get me wrong, this is a great disc
www.ecnmag.com/news/2014/10/batteries-can-be-recharged-70-percent-just-2-minutes
Len Moskowitz
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