Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Electric NYC Gabby Cabbies Need Level-3 Access(videos)

2013-04-26 Thread tomw
Thought I should add some data on highway driving to compare to the city driving data I gave earlier for the Swift. I rarely do "all highway" trips, but recently drove 41.1 miles round trip, only 7 of which were on 35 mph roads, rest was at 60 - 65 mph on open highway, about 17 miles out, no stopp

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Electric NYC Gabby Cabbies Need Level-3 Access(videos)

2013-04-26 Thread peri hartman
unbalenced cells better? Peri -Original message- From: Marion Hakanson To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List Sent: Fri, Apr 26, 2013 17:24:14 GMT+00:00 Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Electric NYC Gabby Cabbies Need Level-3 Access(videos) On 04/26/13 07:36 AM, tomw wrote: > . . . The g

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Electric NYC Gabby Cabbies Need Level-3 Access(videos)

2013-04-26 Thread Marion Hakanson
On 04/26/13 07:36 AM, tomw wrote: > . . . The guy I know who owned one of the early Leaf models and traded it in on a 2013 one says regen is much better on the 2013, so I expected the cabs would have as good or better regen than my car. He didn't quantify it though. Sign me up for a firmware u

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Electric NYC Gabby Cabbies Need Level-3 Access(videos)

2013-04-26 Thread Pat Dawson
ther (7.5L).  That's an economic problem due to a technology that is no longer relevant. From: Peri Hartman To: 'Electric Vehicle Discussion List' Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 7:02 PM Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Electric NYC Gabby Cabbies Need

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Electric NYC Gabby Cabbies Need Level-3 Access(videos)

2013-04-26 Thread tomw
"I'm curious how you figure that a taxi driver can get better than 80 mile range in NYC. In theory, yes." That's how I figured it, in theory, since I don't drive a Leaf nor drive in NYC. I used 240Wh/mile which seemed reasonable to me based on my Wh/mile. "What is your Cd?" 0.32. But CdA is w

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Electric NYC Gabby Cabbies Need Level-3 Access(videos)

2013-04-25 Thread Marion Hakanson
Hi Peri, Now that spring weather allows her to not use the heater in our 2012 Leaf (or to have the pack heater kick in while parked outside at work), my wife is averaging 3.8 to 3.9 miles/kwh by the in-car display. Her commute is about 50% arterial-residental (30-45mph), and 50% freeway (55-6

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Electric NYC Gabby Cabbies Need Level-3 Access(videos)

2013-04-25 Thread Peri Hartman
8:19 AM To: ev@lists.evdl.org Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Electric NYC Gabby Cabbies Need Level-3 Access(videos) Well now that we've thoroughly examined the negative side, lets look at the positive. The program was "forced" from above, but the drivers all volunteered. It was the

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Electric NYC Gabby Cabbies Need Level-3 Access (videos)

2013-04-24 Thread tomw
Well now that we've thoroughly examined the negative side, lets look at the positive. The program was "forced" from above, but the drivers all volunteered. It was their decision, so they have some emotional investment and will try to make it work to show they were not foolish for accepting the ch

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Electric NYC Gabby Cabbies Need Level-3 Access (videos)

2013-04-24 Thread Bruce EVangel Parmenter
I fear it is like many things having to do with plugins, premature announcements before all the details have been worked out. When a large push comes from a force that does not care if it going to work, 'just do it, damn it!' (that may not be the NYC Mayor's words, but the in-charge-flunkies below

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Electric NYC Gabby Cabbies Need Level-3 Access (videos)

2013-04-24 Thread Martin WINLOW
rby > location. > > Tom Keenan > > --- On Tue, 4/23/13, EVDL Administrator wrote: > >> From: EVDL Administrator >> Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Electric NYC Gabby Cabbies Need Level-3 Access >> (videos) >> To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" >>

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Electric NYC Gabby Cabbies Need Level-3 Access (videos)

2013-04-23 Thread Tom Keenan
> There are good ways to promote the use of EVs.  > Choosing one that isn't equal to the job required of it, > and forcing someone to use it, isn't one of them. Quite true - There are certain vehicles that work in certain situations, and others that don't. There are many 'City Cabs' that travel

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Electric NYC Gabby Cabbies Need Level-3 Access (videos)

2013-04-23 Thread EVDL Administrator
On 23 Apr 2013 at 17:53, Tom Keenan wrote: > They may be able to work out a system where they are assigned a space > in the taxi line and are able to hold that spot while they charge in > some nearby location. Sure, they may, but why should they care? I'm serious. Look, these guys are trying t

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Electric NYC Gabby Cabbies Need Level-3 Access (videos)

2013-04-23 Thread Tom Keenan
/23/13, EVDL Administrator wrote: > From: EVDL Administrator > Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Electric NYC Gabby Cabbies Need Level-3 Access > (videos) > To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" > Date: Tuesday, April 23, 2013, 1:41 PM > I suspect that charging breaks is not

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Electric NYC Gabby Cabbies Need Level-3 Access (videos)

2013-04-23 Thread EVDL Administrator
I suspect that charging breaks is not going to work out too well for drivers who are already not that well paid. IMO, this is the kind of application where swappable batteries make sense. What pro photographer would want to wait for his camera to charge and meanwhile lose good shots? They a

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Electric NYC Gabby Cabbies Need Level-3 Access (videos)

2013-04-23 Thread Bruce EVangel Parmenter
[ref http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-Electric-NYC-Gabby-Cabbies-Need-Level-3-Access-videos-tp4662605.html ] Lets remember this NYC Taxi program was not initiated by taxi drivers wanting to drive EVs, it was thrust upon them by the Mayor. The videos show somewhat i

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Electric NYC Gabby Cabbies Need Level-3 Access (videos)

2013-04-23 Thread Peri Hartman
-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of brucedp5 Sent: 23 April, 2013 3:13 AM To: ev@lists.evdl.org Subject: [EVDL] EVLN: Electric NYC Gabby Cabbies Need Level-3 Access (videos) NY Leafs in Springtime % NYC Taxi EVs will need L3 to succeed % http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/22/nyregion/electric-taxi-experime

[EVDL] EVLN: Electric NYC Gabby Cabbies Need Level-3 Access (videos)

2013-04-23 Thread brucedp5
NY Leafs in Springtime % NYC Taxi EVs will need L3 to succeed % http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/22/nyregion/electric-taxi-experiment-to-begin-in-new-york.html?_r=0 [image] Electric-Taxi Experiment Asks if City’s Cabbies Can Spare the Time to Plug In By MATT FLEGENHEIMER Apr 21 2013 [image http