Re: [EVDL] Faking out your EV so it will accept solar input while driving.

2020-07-25 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: Commercially available Sunpower cells. Panels will not work. Well, they could. Some of Sunpower's panels are flexible. They also sell the cells separately, but using them is a LOT more work (the sort of things that the solar raycer teams will do). Sometimes the

Re: [EVDL] Faking out your EV so it will accept solar input while driving.

2020-07-24 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
Re safety. My original solar prius used 15 series panels to get to 240 VDC to parallel into the HV DC system. Worked great... BUT after a few years, I noticed that while washing the car in the sun, I'd get little shocks each time my sponge went over the edge between adjacent fiberglass solar panel

Re: [EVDL] Faking out your EV so it will accept solar input while driving.

2020-07-24 Thread Lawrence Rhodes via EV
The naysayers can always argue against anything that doesn't fit the usual paradigm of heavy = safe. But if you put the solar on your roof you are limited to that area and you can't gain energy while driving. What gives me hope instantly is 4 generations of this vehicle have be built and were wi

Re: [EVDL] Faking out your EV so it will accept solar input while driving.

2020-07-24 Thread Lee Hart via EV
jkenny23 via EV wrote: I think what you're looking for is the Lightyear One. https://lightyear.one/ A modern, amazingly efficient EV, with solar roof. But since it's so niche, as described before, it will cost you around $170k :) Maybe more... or maybe less. It all depends on how many they can

Re: [EVDL] Faking out your EV so it will accept solar input while driving.

2020-07-24 Thread jkenny23 via EV
I think what you're looking for is the Lightyear One. https://lightyear.one/ A modern, amazingly efficient EV, with solar roof. But since it's so niche, as described before, it will cost you around $170k :) As for the original question of "faking out EV to accept solar input while driving" the ea

Re: [EVDL] Faking out your EV so it will accept solar input while driving.

2020-07-23 Thread Lee Hart via EV
From: EVDL Administrator via EV > Lawrence, you really seem to be pining for a Stella Lux... It's clearly > a technical tour de force, and I'd love to see it go into to production. > However, I doubt very much that you or I will ever be able to buy one, > or anything similar. I agree with David,

Re: [EVDL] Faking out your EV so it will accept solar input while driving.

2020-07-23 Thread Jay Summet via EV
I generally agree with David on the points below, but could think of a few ways the Stella Lux could be brought to market: 1) A niche/specialty product, sold to a small number of (rich) early adopters willing to pay $100,000 for a super environmental (and exclusive) vehicle. 2) If Tesla (or

Re: [EVDL] Faking out your EV so it will accept solar input while driving.

2020-07-23 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
Lawrence, you really seem to be pining for a Stella Lux. I've lost count of how many times you've brought it up. Not that there's anything wrong with that, mind you. It's clearly a technical tour de force, and I'd love to see it go into to production. However, I doubt very much that you or I

Re: [EVDL] Faking out your EV so it will accept solar input while driving.

2020-07-23 Thread Lawrence Rhodes via EV
Commercially available Sunpower cells. Panels will not work.   https://sinovoltaics.com/technology/stella-lux-winner-of-world-solar-challenge-visits-shanghai/ The cells are tightly spaced and the car is designed to be a platform for the cells. It is also more aerodynamic than any sedan or hatch

Re: [EVDL] Faking out your EV so it will accept solar input while driving.

2020-07-22 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: >> Cars can carry 1,500 watts of solar using Sunpower cells. That means >> every spot. Hood, top and trunk... Alan Arrison via EV wrote: Where are you getting your cells, from NASA? You couldn't get 1500 watts even if you covered the sides and all the windows too.

Re: [EVDL] Faking out your EV so it will accept solar input while driving.

2020-07-22 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
Where are you getting your cells, from NASA? You couldn't get 1500 watts even if you covered the sides and all the windows too. On 7/22/2020 1:23 AM, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: Cars can carry 1,500 watts of solar using Sunpower cells. That means every spot. Hood, top and trunk. Not panels b

Re: [EVDL] Faking out your EV so it will accept solar input while driving.

2020-07-21 Thread Lawrence Rhodes via EV
Cars can carry 1,500 watts of solar using Sunpower cells. That means every spot. Hood, top and trunk. Not panels but individual cells. Encapsulated by hand. When you add a light and long trailer, why not include living quarters. Lawrence Rhodes -- next part -- An HTML att

Re: [EVDL] Faking out your EV so it will accept solar input while driving.

2020-07-21 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 21 Jul 2020 at 21:06, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: > I was thinking directly hooking into the output of the regen system might be > the best way for an EV pack to accept energy from other sources rather than > the normal charging system. IIRC, that's how most of the plug-in Prius hacks (Engin

Re: [EVDL] Faking out your EV so it will accept solar input while driving.

2020-07-21 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
On my two solar prius and the Frankenvolt,(http://aprs.org/my-EVs.html) about the most solar panels that will fit are about 240 watts. Since the volt is said to consume over 500 watts *just-being-on" the more interesting question is where is all that going. Are the CPUs all powered from the 12v b

[EVDL] Faking out your EV so it will accept solar input while driving.

2020-07-21 Thread Lawrence Rhodes via EV
I was thinking directly hooking into the output of the regen system might be the best way for an EV pack to accept energy from other sources rather than the normal charging systemthat is...unprotected. I want to put panels on my roof and on a pop trailer as long as allowed by law...and don't