Re: [EVDL] Tesla Slipping

2023-11-20 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 20 Nov 2023 at 10:14, (-Phil-) via EV wrote: > Seems this was tried in France for awhile, and I think it's now all but > gone. (Cheap EV with Battery Lease) Correct. . From 2012 to 2019 Renault sold all their Zoes with leased batteries, except in Norway. That made the car's purchase

Re: [EVDL] Tesla Slipping

2023-11-20 Thread (-Phil-) via EV
Seems this was tried in France for awhile, and I think it's now all but gone. (Cheap EV with Battery Lease) Though I think one of the Chinese brands; Nio (IIRC) was also doing this with great success in China. On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 9:55 AM Lee Hart via EV wrote: > I keep thinking (and

Re: [EVDL] Tesla Slipping

2023-11-20 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
That's why I enjoy Brother brand printers, of all manufacturers they charge the least for their consumables. All other manufacturers are under heavy assault of aftermarket products and refill providers. But I guess that a cheap car and battery rental is a viable business case as has been shown,

Re: [EVDL] Tesla Slipping

2023-11-20 Thread Lee Hart via EV
I keep thinking (and fearing) that the auto industry will start using the "cheap printer and expensive ink" model. In the early 1900's, Henry Ford observed, "If I owned the gas stations, I'd *give* the cars away." So what happens if an auto company begins offering cheap or free cars, but only

Re: [EVDL] Tesla Slipping

2023-11-20 Thread John Lussmyer via EV
Umm, in what way is Tesla "slipping"?  Sales are still climbing - fast. Yeah, they don't have a EV econobox out, and BYD does.  (also note that BYD lumps their Hybrid sales in with the EV sales - so it's hard to tell if their EV's are profitable yet.) Since EV's are pretty much a huge

Re: [EVDL] Tesla Slipping

2023-11-20 Thread Mark Laity-Snyder via EV
It is sad that Tesla has not lived up to their promises to have a $25K car available.  That would be the nails in the coffin for the ICEVs.  I guess they have decided that they would rather make rather than kill ICEVs. Not just a Model X slipping into the sea at a Florida boat launch