Re: KIM 2.3 (was Re: Time)

2009-01-10 Thread Kim Jones
On 10/01/2009, at 6:37 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: > The question is how is the simulated observer made conscious of the > passage of > (simulated) time. If you just look a momentary machine states, > ignoring their > causal/temporal relations, how will they create the consciousness of > time

Re: Boltzmann Brains, consciousness and the arrow of time

2009-01-10 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 09 Jan 2009, at 20:12, Günther Greindl wrote: > > Hi Bruno, > >> and Cantor get a contradiction from that. You assume the diagram is >> indeed a piece of an existing bijection in Platonia, or known by God. > > No, you misunderstand me there - I just meant that we need to take the > step to i

Re: Boltzmann Brains, consciousness and the arrow of time

2009-01-10 Thread Günther Greindl
Hi Bruno, > I don't understand what you mean by computations being infinitely far > away. In the UD deployment, which I will wrote UD*, all computations > begins soon or later (like all dominoes falls soon or later in the > infinite discrete dominoe-sequences). All computations reach any of

Re: Exact Theology was:Re: Kim 2.4 - 2.5

2009-01-10 Thread Spudboy100
Steinhardt is supposed to get his book Infinite Flesh published sometime soon. His premise is similar to Philosopher, John Leslie, save that Steinhardt see clones of ourselves being re-born in alternate universes, though the each incarnation is improved over the previous. Leslie is more linea

Re: Kim 2.4 - 2.5

2009-01-10 Thread John Mikes
Brent, there are misunderstood phenomena and epistemologically underdeveloped explanations over the past 10,000 years - plus conclusion (upon conlusions)^n - quantizations with and without zero (14th c. AD) to develop in our conventional scientific view the figment Bruno puts into " - " called "The

Re: KIM 2.3 (was Re: Time)

2009-01-10 Thread Brent Meeker
Kim Jones wrote: > > On 10/01/2009, at 6:37 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: > >> The question is how is the simulated observer made conscious of the >> passage of >> (simulated) time. If you just look a momentary machine states, >> ignoring their >> causal/temporal relations, how will they create t

Re: KIM 2.3 (was Re: Time)

2009-01-10 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
2009/1/10 Brent Meeker : > The question is how is the simulated observer made conscious of the passage of > (simulated) time. If you just look a momentary machine states, ignoring their > causal/temporal relations, how will they create the consciousness of time in > the > simulated observer? A

Re: KIM 2.3 (was Re: Time)

2009-01-10 Thread Brent Meeker
Stathis Papaioannou wrote: > 2009/1/10 Brent Meeker : > > >> The question is how is the simulated observer made conscious of the passage >> of >> (simulated) time. If you just look a momentary machine states, ignoring >> their >> causal/temporal relations, how will they create the consciousn