Bruno,
Hi. My responses are:
>Mathematical truth is in the mind of persons. And assuming we are machine,
>mathematical truth is in the mind >of numbers relatively to numbers. Of course
>we have to assume all elementary arithmetical truth, like "17 is >you doubt them?
Roger: When you say
On 9/23/2011 10:24 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 22 Sep 2011, at 21:12, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 9/22/2011 11:22 AM, Jason Resch wrote:
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 7:55 AM, Stephen P. King
mailto:stephe...@charter.net>> wrote:
On 9/22/2011 1:19 AM, Jason Resch wrote:
[SPK]
Su
On Sep 23, 2011, at 12:25 PM, Craig Weinberg
wrote:
On Sep 22, 9:04 pm, Jason Resch wrote:
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 2:12 PM, Stephen P. King
wrote:
From what I understand of Craig's theory it describes a difference
between
first person and third person experience/reality. Each being
On 9/23/2011 10:24 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 22 Sep 2011, at 21:12, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 9/22/2011 11:22 AM, Jason Resch wrote:
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 7:55 AM, Stephen P. King
mailto:stephe...@charter.net>> wrote:
On 9/22/2011 1:19 AM, Jason Resch wrote:
[SPK]
Su
On Sep 23, 3:17 pm, Bruno Marchal wrote:
> On 23 Sep 2011, at 02:42, Craig Weinberg wrote:
>
>
>
> > My assumption is that the experience of thinking of quantities in a
> > series, like 1, 2, 3, 4 is an example of counting.
>
> This is fuzzy. Now, even if you succeed in making explicit assumptions
Stathis, moving over to the new thread if you don't mind...
http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list/browse_thread/thread/25e9388809c3af7e
(is there some trick to getting to the end of a long thread when it
doesn't give you a link for new? Why links for Older and Newer I
wonder, but none fo
On Sep 23, 11:13 am, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Craig Weinberg
> wrote:
> >>You claim
> >> that ion channels can open and neurons fire in response to thoughts
> >> rather than a chain of physical events.
>
> > No, I observe that ion channels do in fact open a
On Sep 22, 9:04 pm, Jason Resch wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 2:12 PM, Stephen P. King wrote:
>
> > From what I understand of Craig's theory it describes a difference between
> > first person and third person experience/reality. Each being two sides of
> > the same coin, where first person exp
On Sep 23, 8:41 am, Bruno Marchal wrote:
> Hi Roger,
>
> On 23 Sep 2011, at 07:37, Roger Granet wrote:
>
> > Bruno,
>
> > Hi. Yes, I am pretty much a materialist/physicalist.
>
> So, you cannot defend the idea that the brain (or whatever responsible
> for our consciousness) is Turing emul
Hi Roger,
On 23 Sep 2011, at 07:37, Roger Granet wrote:
Bruno,
Hi. Yes, I am pretty much a materialist/physicalist.
So, you cannot defend the idea that the brain (or whatever responsible
for our consciousness) is Turing emulable. OK?
When people say that there are these mathemat
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
>>You claim
>> that ion channels can open and neurons fire in response to thoughts
>> rather than a chain of physical events.
>
> No, I observe that ion channels do in fact open and neurons do indeed
> fire, not 'in response' to thoughts but
On 22 Sep 2011, at 20:01, meekerdb wrote:
On 9/22/2011 10:02 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
I think what Bruno calls the 323 principle is questionable.
Can I deduce from this that UDA1-7 is understood. This shows
already that either the universe is "little" or physics is
(already) a branch o
On 22 Sep 2011, at 21:12, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 9/22/2011 11:22 AM, Jason Resch wrote:
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 7:55 AM, Stephen P. King > wrote:
On 9/22/2011 1:19 AM, Jason Resch wrote:
[SPK]
Sure, let us consider this similarity to Leibniz' "per-
established harmony" idea. Could
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