Re: Free will: a definition

2012-08-03 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 02 Aug 2012, at 21:34, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote: I do not want to suggest a definition, but have a question concerning comp frame. When I improvise, often in Jazz or Rock context the free will question becomes fuzzy in this way: Sometimes you hit a point where all the

Re: Stephen Hawking: Philosophy is Dead

2012-08-03 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 02 Aug 2012, at 21:55, John Clark wrote: On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: The problem is I have no conception of free will and neither do you nor does anybody else, at least not a consistent coherent one that has any depth. This contradicts your own

Re: The Unreality of Time

2012-08-03 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 03 Aug 2012, at 01:43, Alberto G. Corona wrote: Evgnii,. The question is that the mind is not the brain in the same way that Microsoft Word running in a computer ins not the computer. The intuitive notion of location of our self, our mind behind de eyes and thus inside the skull is not

Re: Memories of Kurt Godel

2012-08-03 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 02 Aug 2012, at 23:26, Jason Resch wrote: I came across this today, which I thought others on this list might enjoy http://www.rudyrucker.com/blog/2012/08/01/memories-of-kurt-godel/ Among other things Godel mentions a belief in the illusion of time, compatibilist free will, Platonism,

Re: Free will: a definition

2012-08-03 Thread R AM
If rationality is used in the technical sense then the irrational category becomes too broad because it includes doing the right thing under the current resources (time, computing power, knowledge) and any other plain dumb action. El ago 3, 2012 1:16 a.m., Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.au

Re: Naming and Intensionality

2012-08-03 Thread Stephen P. King
Dear Bruno, On 8/3/2012 3:55 AM in post Re: Stephen Hawking: Philosophy is Dead, Bruno Marchal wrote: There is no recipe for intelligence. Only for domain competence. Intelligence can diagonalize again all recipes. A very good point! Intelligence is thus forever beyond a horizon or

Re: Naming and Intensionality

2012-08-03 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 03 Aug 2012, at 11:43, Stephen P. King wrote: Dear Bruno, On 8/3/2012 3:55 AM in post Re: Stephen Hawking: Philosophy is Dead, Bruno Marchal wrote: There is no recipe for intelligence. Only for domain competence. Intelligence can diagonalize again all recipes. A very good

Re: Free will: a definition

2012-08-03 Thread Platonist Guitar Cowboy
On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 02 Aug 2012, at 21:34, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote: I do not want to suggest a definition, but have a question concerning comp frame. When I improvise, often in Jazz or Rock context the free will question becomes

A digital approach to quantum theory

2012-08-03 Thread ronaldheld
arXiv:1208.0493v1 [quant-ph] anything useful here? Ronald -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/everything-list/-/o8kakXvUvOIJ. To post to this

Re: Stephen Hawking: Philosophy is Dead

2012-08-03 Thread John Clark
On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: Define God The God I don't believe in is a omniscient omnipotent being who created the universe. If you define God, as so many fans of the word but not the idea do, as a force greater than myself then I am a devout believer

Re: Stephen Hawking: Philosophy is Dead

2012-08-03 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 03 Aug 2012, at 17:34, John Clark wrote: On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: Define God The God I don't believe in is a omniscient omnipotent being who created the universe. If you define God, as so many fans of the word but not the idea do, as a force

Re: Free will: a definition

2012-08-03 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 03 Aug 2012, at 15:10, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote: On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 02 Aug 2012, at 21:34, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote: I do not want to suggest a definition, but have a question concerning comp frame. When I improvise,

Re: Naming and Intensionality

2012-08-03 Thread Stephen P. King
On 8/3/2012 8:27 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 03 Aug 2012, at 11:43, Stephen P. King wrote: Dear Bruno, On 8/3/2012 3:55 AM in post Re: Stephen Hawking: Philosophy is Dead, Bruno Marchal wrote: There is no recipe for intelligence. Only for domain competence. Intelligence can diagonalize

Re: Naming and Intensionality

2012-08-03 Thread John Mikes
Stephen and Bruno: enjoyable reading. About that darn intelligence? I have my roots in Latin so my take is inter-lego - to READ between the lines (or words). I add some (believed) points to it: we like to go to the utmost of our 'knowledge - base' with (intelligent-ha ha) thinking and HAVE

Re: Free will: a definition

2012-08-03 Thread John Mikes
Dear Cowboy, thanks for your teaching on the repetitive (rock-related??) musical experience. Since I am strongly anchored into the past 3-5 centuries' organized 'music' I do not appreciate it. However it punches into the domain of what is callable a Free Will (not really, as I will explain).

Re: Free will: a definition

2012-08-03 Thread Brian Tenneson
So you don't know what God wants. Is that what you're saying? I hope you're not for any reason obsessed with the Bible. On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 9:43 AM, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 12:26 PM, Brian Tenneson tenn...@gmail.com wrote: How do you know what God

Re: A digital approach to quantum theory

2012-08-03 Thread Stephen P. King
On 8/3/2012 11:09 AM, ronaldheld wrote: arXiv:1208.0493v1 [quant-ph] Hi Ronald, A nice paper! A quote from it: In this work we introduce a postulate named Existence of an Information Unit, which essentially states that there is only one type of information within the theory.