On 17 Jan 2013, at 23:17, Russell Standish wrote:
Hi John,
My suspicion is that Roger is so keen to impose a Piercean triadic
view on things that he has omitted to make the necessary connection
with the normal meaning of 1p/3p as standing for subjective/objective.
I agree. It is always
On 18 Jan 2013, at 05:34, Russell Standish wrote:
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 09:25:20PM -0500, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 1/17/2013 4:21 PM, Russell Standish wrote:
From just the abstract alone, I can't see how this differs from the
Solomonff universal prior?
Hi Russell,
OK, is that a good
On 18 Jan 2013, at 10:19, Roger Clough wrote:
A God-limited God - My Theodicy
A theodicy is a justification of God's ways to man.
This is my theodicy, based on the Bible and
reason. Comments appreciated.
Most of the so-called contradictions in the Bible,
such as a loving God lashing out at
On 18 Jan 2013, at 13:29, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Russell Standish
Firstness is the mode of being of that which is such as it is,
positively and without reference to anything else.
This can make sense. We can relate this with the common notion of
subjectivity.
Secondness is the mode
On 18 Jan 2013, at 23:12, meekerdb wrote:
On 1/18/2013 1:19 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
A God-limited God - My Theodicy
A theodicy is a justification of God's ways to man.
This is my theodicy, based on the Bible and
reason. Comments appreciated.
Most of the so-called contradictions in the
On 19 Jan 2013, at 00:15, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 1/18/2013 1:08 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 17 Jan 2013, at 19:05, Stephen P. King wrote:
Dear Bruno,
I am discussing ontology, there is no such a process as Turing
or 'realities' or objects yet at such a level. All is abstracted
On 18 Jan 2013, at 23:37, meekerdb wrote:
On 1/18/2013 10:23 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 17 Jan 2013, at 19:14, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 1/17/2013 9:14 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Coming back to hemp should be the good idea. Oil and wood have
replaced Hemp (for textile, fuel, paper and
Hi Craig,
On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 4:37 AM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.comwrote:
The whole worldview is built on the mistaken assumption that it is
possible for something to exist without sensory participation. When you
fail to factor that critically important physical reality into
Does energy obey the laws of materialism ?
Energy presents us with an argument against materialism,
(or at least materialism as I understand it) since is conserved,
regardess of form or physical location. Thus the electrical energy created
in a generating station at one location can be
Does energy obey the laws of materialism ?
Energy presents us with an argument against materialism,
(or at least materialism as I understand it) since is conserved,
regardess of form or physical location. Thus the electrical energy created
in a generating station at one location can be
Hi Roger,
I would say the opposite - energy not being conserved would pose a harder
challenge to materialism, because then you'd have to ask where it comes
from and where it goes.
On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 3:40 PM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote:
Does energy obey the laws of
On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 8:23 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
There is no field of theology, removing the fairy tale aspect of it
would be like removing the skin of a toy balloon.
To say that there is no field of theology is equivalent to say I know
the answer to the fundamental
Question.
What is DNA ?
DNA consist on atoms and electromagnetic fields.
In 1904 Lorentz proved: there isn’t em field without Electron
It means the source of this em field must be an Electron
Then we need to write :
DNA is atoms, electron (s) and electromagnetic fields.
The simplest particle -
On 1/20/2013 7:53 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 19 Jan 2013, at 00:15, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 1/18/2013 1:08 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 17 Jan 2013, at 19:05, Stephen P. King wrote:
Dear Bruno,
I am discussing ontology, there is no such a process as Turing or
'realities' or objects
On 19 Jan 2013, at 13:42, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 5:47 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
wrote:
On 17 Jan 2013, at 16:01, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 3:01 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
wrote:
On 17 Jan 2013, at 13:32, Telmo Menezes
Hi,
Here is a crash investigation video. They are always about death or
near death experiences, in the third person way, and this one reminds
me the video on people having done a Tabernanthe iboga experience, or
a so called Near Death Experience (an expression commonly
interpreted as a
On Friday, January 18, 2013 1:15:09 PM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 17 Jan 2013, at 18:50, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Wednesday, January 16, 2013 7:06:03 PM UTC-5, Stephen Paul King wrote:
On 1/16/2013 5:32 PM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
That is the most clear demosnstration that what
On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 19 Jan 2013, at 13:42, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 5:47 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 17 Jan 2013, at 16:01, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 3:01 PM, Bruno
On Saturday, January 19, 2013 6:50:19 PM UTC-5, stathisp wrote:
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 8:23 AM, Craig Weinberg
whats...@gmail.comjavascript:
wrote:
There are those who believe that the very atoms are necessary in order
to
preserve a consciousness: making an arbitrarily close copy
Hi Craig Weinberg
Then you believe that God exists.
That's a good start.
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Hi Craig Weinberg
Then you believe that God exists.
That's a good start.
Can't I point out the absurdity of a belief without being accused of having
it?
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Hi meekerdb
Lead me to the proof.
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On 1/19/2013 3:52 AM, Roger
On 1/20/2013 3:41 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
I agree. It is always better to stick to the most common sense of the words.
That's funny coming from a guy who used God to designate abstract
computations.
Brent
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Hi Telmo Menezes
Good point. The answer is the same source that the
universe came from.
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Hi Roger,
I would say the
Hi meekerdb
All computations are abstract.
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On 1/20/2013 3:41 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
I agree. It is always better to stick
On 1/20/2013 3:57 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Even God cannot make 17 into a prime.
And He cannot make it not prime either. So I guess he doesn't exist.
Brent
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On Sunday, January 20, 2013 2:43:42 PM UTC-5, rclough wrote:
Hi Craig Weinberg
So you belong to the liberal thought police then.
Haha of course. How could it be possible for anyone to see the
contradiction of the concept of God without 'belonging to the liberal
thought police'?
Not
Hi Bruno Marchal
The triads are based on epistemology. Without Secondness
everything is impersonal. Without Secondness you cannot understand how
the final expression was obtained (what it means to YOU, and
how it was affected by the interprent. It's just wham bam ! that's a cat I see
!
Van
Hi Craig Weinberg
They don't make sense to you but they do make
make sense to me. Could it be that you are a low
information, low understanding person ?
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On 1/20/2013 5:13 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 18 Jan 2013, at 23:37, meekerdb wrote:
On 1/18/2013 10:23 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 17 Jan 2013, at 19:14, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 1/17/2013 9:14 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Coming back to hemp should be the good idea. Oil and wood have
Energy is conserved because we want our theories to be time translation invariant (c.f.
Noether's theorem).
Brent
On 1/20/2013 7:37 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
Hi Roger,
I would say the opposite - energy not being conserved would pose a harder challenge to
materialism, because then you'd have
You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think.
Brent
On 1/20/2013 11:36 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi meekerdb
Lead me to the proof.
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On Sunday, January 20, 2013 3:06:07 PM UTC-5, rclough wrote:
Hi Craig Weinberg
They don't make sense to you but they do make
make sense to me. Could it be that you are a low
information, low understanding person ?
You can say that it makes sense to you, but I think that you just
On Sunday, January 20, 2013 2:40:53 PM UTC-5, rclough wrote:
Hi Craig Weinberg
So the world did not exist before man ?
The world existed before man, but not before experience. Man does not
define all experience in the universe.
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I believe . . . . .you believe
your opinion . . . my opinion . ... . .
your meaning . . . my meaning . .. . . .
The opinion of opinion . . . . .
The meaning of meaning . . . . .
And so is endless.
===.
I Believe in Order to Understand.
St. Augustine, the Bishop of Hippo, said,
“I believe in
On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 01:53:49PM +0100, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 19 Jan 2013, at 00:15, Stephen P. King wrote:
You seem to not understand a simple idea that is axiomatic for
me. I am trying to understand why this is. Do you understand the
thesis of Russell Standish's book and the
Men become civilized, not in proportion to their willingness to
believe, but in proportion to their readiness to doubt. The more
stupid the man the heavier his load of faith.
--- H. L. Mencken
On 1/20/2013 1:31 PM, socra...@bezeqint.net wrote:
I believe . . . . .you believe
your opinion
This may be totally irrelavent, but NDE studlier, Raymond Moody, has a book
published about 3 years ago, called Glimpses of Eternity, in which NDE's
and passings-on are a shared experience, including a life review, seen by
family and friends.Supposedly, such family and friends, are not under
Is it fair, to call energy, matter in motion? Is it matter with momentum?
Since Photons are massless and so are neutrinos, are they just types of
energy, or primal energy, or proto-matter (wanna-be?).
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Does anyone have an issue with thinking about God as an alien intelligence,
which created the Hibble Volume (aka Universe)? Michael Shermer sort of
put this concept together, perhaps in the hope of getting people to think, or
possibly, to tick-off Christian Fundamentalist? I have no problem
What would an alien intelligence help explain the origin of the universe?
Wouldn't you just have to explain the origin of this alien intelligence?
On Sunday, January 20, 2013 9:11:13 PM UTC-5, spudb...@aol.com wrote:
Does anyone have an issue with thinking about God as an alien
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