On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 5:47 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
> Which reasoning is clearly false?
>
> Here's what I'm thinking:
>
> 1) The conclusion "I won't be surprised to be hanged Friday if I am not
> hanged by Thursday" creates another proposition to be surprised about. By
> leaving the condition o
On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 2:28 AM, meekerdb wrote:
> On 9/12/2013 2:33 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
>>
>> Time for some philosophy then :)
>>
>> Here's a paradox that's making me lose sleep:
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unexpected_hanging_paradox
>>
>> Probably many of you already know about it.
>>
>
On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 5:56 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>
> On 12 Sep 2013, at 11:33, Telmo Menezes wrote:
>
>> Time for some philosophy then :)
>>
>> Here's a paradox that's making me lose sleep:
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unexpected_hanging_paradox
>>
>> Probably many of you already know abou
On Friday, September 13, 2013 5:31:40 AM UTC-4, telmo_menezes wrote:
>
> On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 5:47 PM, Craig Weinberg
> >
> wrote:
> > Which reasoning is clearly false?
> >
> > Here's what I'm thinking:
> >
> > 1) The conclusion "I won't be surprised to be hanged Friday if I am not
> >
On Friday, September 13, 2013 5:37:19 AM UTC-4, telmo_menezes wrote:
>
> On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 2:28 AM, meekerdb >
> wrote:
> > On 9/12/2013 2:33 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
> >>
> >> Time for some philosophy then :)
> >>
> >> Here's a paradox that's making me lose sleep:
> >> http://en.wik
The surprise can appear in a single day: "You will be hanged on monday
and you will be surprised by it". Then he reason that he will not be
surprised. But he is hanged and surprised by it.
Thar reduces the problem to the example of the Diamonds from
Brent. So the reasoning is:
1) The statement o
That is related with the rusell paradox, since Th juzge does not say whaw
type of surprise will be. He is telling: you will receive a surprise.. but
not the type of the surprise:
a surprise about being hange plainly , or
a meta-surprise for being hangled because what I said or
a meta-meta-surprise
On 12 Sep 2013, at 17:47, Craig Weinberg wrote:
Which reasoning is clearly false?
Here's what I'm thinking:
1) The conclusion "I won't be surprised to be hanged Friday if I am
not hanged by Thursday" creates another proposition to be surprised
about. By leaving the condition of 'surprise'
On 12 Sep 2013, at 18:22, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Thursday, September 12, 2013 11:56:12 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal
wrote:
On 12 Sep 2013, at 11:33, Telmo Menezes wrote:
> Time for some philosophy then :)
>
> Here's a paradox that's making me lose sleep:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unexp
On 12 Sep 2013, at 22:02, John Clark wrote:
On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 11:15 AM, Bruno Marchal
wrote:
> Feynman was very bad in philosophy. Even in the philosophy of QM,
he has avoided all questions, and only put in footnote some remarks
showing that he did not believe in the wave collapse
On 12 Sep 2013, at 21:25, John Clark wrote:
On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 11:08 AM, Bruno Marchal
wrote:
> Feyerabend was correct on this (at least).
I ask myself why in the 21'th century would any educated man agree
with a certified jackass like Feyerabend who said "the church at the
time o
On 13 Sep 2013, at 03:18, meekerdb wrote:
On 9/12/2013 8:08 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
The difference is the following. Some say there is a broken glass,
but forbid you to ask "why there is a broken glass?". That is what
some materialist, and all physicalist are doing for the notion of
"ph
On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 10:11 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
> >> Science, or at least theoretical physics, is all about explaining
> physical laws in terms of other more general laws. Either this process goes
> on forever like a infinitely nested Russian doll, or it does not go on
> forever and come
Hi John,
Roulette wheels are technically deterministic. I know with your "cuckoo
clocks or roulette wheels" aphorism you're trying to make things as simple
as possible, but that is potentially confusing.
Terren
On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 1:49 PM, John Clark wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 10:11
On 9/13/2013 2:37 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 2:28 AM, meekerdb wrote:
On 9/12/2013 2:33 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
Time for some philosophy then :)
Here's a paradox that's making me lose sleep:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unexpected_hanging_paradox
Probably many of you a
Russell wrote:
*One of the reasons for studying AL is to get a better handle on what
we mean by "life". Obviously it has something to do with information
processing, emergent phenomena, complex systems and evolution, so all
these topics come under scrutiny.
I don't think it is as quite a hopeles
On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 03:51:45PM -0400, John Mikes wrote:
> Russell wrote:
>
> *One of the reasons for studying AL is to get a better handle on what
> we mean by "life". Obviously it has something to do with information
> processing, emergent phenomena, complex systems and evolution, so all
> t
On Friday, September 13, 2013 9:31:56 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>
>
> On 12 Sep 2013, at 17:47, Craig Weinberg wrote:
>
> Which reasoning is clearly false?
>
> Here's what I'm thinking:
>
> 1) The conclusion "I won't be surprised to be hanged Friday if I am not
> hanged by Thursday" creates
On Friday, September 13, 2013 9:42:54 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>
>
> On 12 Sep 2013, at 18:22, Craig Weinberg wrote:
>
>
>
> On Thursday, September 12, 2013 11:56:12 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 12 Sep 2013, at 11:33, Telmo Menezes wrote:
>>
>> > Time for some philosophy then
For Craig: http://xkcd.com/1263/
Brent
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