Re: Everything is real or unreal?

2013-11-17 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 17 Nov 2013, at 04:24, Samiya Illias wrote: Bruno wrote: "In a sense, with comp, the illusions and dreams are more real that the stuff we imagine, which are useful fictions." Dreams and illusions are not stuff we imagine? Not really, because the "we" is part of the dreams. With comp,

Re: Global warming silliness

2013-11-17 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 8:41 AM, meekerdb wrote: > On 11/16/2013 11:36 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: >>> >>> But I certainly take your point that there is a reason the government is >>> not >>> >trusted. However, it is not the government that is warning us about >>> > global >>> >warming. It is in th

Re: Everything you wanted to know about physics...

2013-11-17 Thread spudboy100
I think K. Susskind, is, or was a supporter of Boltzmann Brains, which is a wild, subject, if true. -Original Message- From: LizR To: everything-list Sent: Sat, Nov 16, 2013 6:41 pm Subject: Everything you wanted to know about physics... ...but were afraid to ask. http://www.openc

Re: Nuclear power

2013-11-17 Thread spudboy100
Perhaps I am raising the technology bar, way too high, but I have suspected, that there is some sort of nuclear phenomena, be it fission or fusion, that is usable for human civilization-some laboratory phenomena, that never got looked at, because with all the focus on carbon fuel, renewable, f

Re: Nuclear power

2013-11-17 Thread John Clark
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 4:12 PM, wrote: > Doesn't Thorium 232 need plutonium to initiate a fertile reaction into a > fissile one. That is converting Th232 into U233? > Yes, a LFTR needs a sort of spark plug, a strong source of neutrons to get the cycle going. Only about 1000 pounds of Uranium en

Re: Nuclear power

2013-11-17 Thread John Clark
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 2:04 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote: > Perhaps you should read: The End of Cheap Uranium, by Dr Michael Dittmar, > of the Institute of Particle Physics (at CERN), > Dittmar wrote that in 2011, since then despite inflation the price of Uranium has gone down not up. Historically

Re: Nuclear power

2013-11-17 Thread John Clark
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote: >> A regular reactor produces lots of neutrons but a LFTR makes less of >> them, so it needs all that U233 to keep the chain reaction going, if you >> try stealing some the reactor will simply stop operating making the theft >> obvious. >>

Re: Global warming silliness

2013-11-17 Thread John Clark
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 Richard Ruquist wrote: > Global temperatures fell from 1950 to 1980 while CO2 atm content was > rising. Can you explain that? > I can't explain that, nor do I understand why in the late Ordovician period 450 million years ago there was a huge 4400 ppm of CO2 in the atmosphe

Re: Global warming silliness

2013-11-17 Thread John Clark
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 9:37 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote: > wait to see what happens to the cancer rates over the next fifty years. > I don't now about Fukushima but I do know that the predictions of huge increases of cancer from Chernobyl have proved to be enormous exaggerations: http://www.ny

RE: Nuclear power

2013-11-17 Thread Chris de Morsella
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Clark Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 9:31 AM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Nuclear power On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote: >> A regular rea

RE: Global warming silliness

2013-11-17 Thread Chris de Morsella
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Clark Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 10:00 AM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Global warming silliness On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 9:37 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote: >

Re: Global warming silliness

2013-11-17 Thread meekerdb
On 11/16/2013 2:37 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote: 2013/11/14 Telmo Menezes mailto:te...@telmomenezes.com>> Hi Alberto, On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 1:20 PM, Alberto G. Corona mailto:agocor...@gmail.com>> wrote: > Yes. > > I proposed myself not to argue against sectarian apocalyp

Re: Our Demon-Haunted World

2013-11-17 Thread meekerdb
On 11/16/2013 12:51 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote: Dry rock geothermal certainly does have a big upside potential -- there is a whole lot of heat just a few miles below the ground, but it is not as easy or simple as you seem to think it is. For example in a lot of dry areas water supply becomes a

Re: Nuclear power

2013-11-17 Thread meekerdb
On 11/16/2013 1:12 PM, spudboy...@aol.com wrote: Doesn't Thorium 232 need plutonium to initiate a fertile reaction into a fissile one. No. It needs some seed of a neutron emitter to get the breeding cycle started, but U235 will work. Brent -- You received this message because you are subs

RE: Our Demon-Haunted World

2013-11-17 Thread Chris de Morsella
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of meekerdb Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 11:43 AM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Our Demon-Haunted World On 11/16/2013 12:51 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote: Dry rock geothermal c

Re: Our Demon-Haunted World

2013-11-17 Thread John Mikes
Chris: you said it. I did not refer to "hydraulic fracturing' or "injecting (anything) INTO THE ROCK". I am talking about EXTRACTING H E A T only, in a CLOSED system. The carrying water must not touch the surrounding 'reservoir', must stay inside the well-system, in which it heats up for ascendin

RE: Our Demon-Haunted World

2013-11-17 Thread Chris de Morsella
How exactly then is the heat exchanged. Heat exchangers work by exposing a large surface area in which to transfer heat from the source into the working fluid or conversely from the working fluid into the heat sink if heat is being pumped in the opposite direction. If you do not accomplish creati

Re: Nuclear power

2013-11-17 Thread meekerdb
On 11/16/2013 10:17 PM, LizR wrote: On 16 November 2013 19:54, meekerdb mailto:meeke...@verizon.net>> wrote: On 11/15/2013 8:36 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote: First, I think maybe we disagree as to what constitutes a police state. My definition of it is one in which the police can

Re: Global warming silliness

2013-11-17 Thread meekerdb
On 11/17/2013 4:25 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 8:41 AM, meekerdb wrote: On 11/16/2013 11:36 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: But I certainly take your point that there is a reason the government is not trusted. However, it is not the government that is warning us about global wa

Re: Our Demon-Haunted World

2013-11-17 Thread LizR
Well, those PV panels are of course using a handy fusion reactor. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com

Re: Everything you wanted to know about physics...

2013-11-17 Thread LizR
If the universe exists for long enough they appear to be inevitable. No doubt that leads to some sort of Bayesian argument about the universe not being able to last too long, or we'd all be BBs (too long would be an awfully long time, to misquote Peter Pan). However, can we be sure we aren't? Mayb

Re: Nuclear power

2013-11-17 Thread LizR
On 18 November 2013 03:29, wrote: > Perhaps I am raising the technology bar, way too high, but I have > suspected, that there is some sort of nuclear phenomena, be it fission or > fusion, that is usable for human civilization-some laboratory phenomena, > that never got looked at, because with al

Re: Nuclear power

2013-11-17 Thread LizR
On 18 November 2013 11:13, meekerdb wrote: > On 11/16/2013 10:17 PM, LizR wrote: > > On 16 November 2013 19:54, meekerdb wrote: > >> On 11/15/2013 8:36 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote: >> >> First, I think maybe we disagree as to what constitutes a police >> state. My definition of it is one in

Re: Global warming silliness

2013-11-17 Thread LizR
This is quite simple. Markets ignore the commons, hence a free market solution can't - or is highly unlikely - to work. No one is going to clean up the commons, just as they didn't in medieval villages, because there is no incentive for an individual, or a specific group, to do so. The tragedy of t

Re: Everything is real or unreal?

2013-11-17 Thread Jason Resch
On Nov 16, 2013, at 8:56 AM, smi...@zonnet.nl wrote: Quantum mechanics is only an approximate description of the Mathematical Multiverse. The only things that are real are the elements of that Multiverse, which are algorithms (some of them describe people in some computational state). W

Re: Nuclear power

2013-11-17 Thread meekerdb
On 11/17/2013 9:30 AM, John Clark wrote: I can think of one thing that could dramatically not just slow but reverse the growth of photovoltaics, removing the tax incentives and subsidies. In effect government has been lying to the free market about the true cost to the economy of solar cells.