Re: Here is why nothing will be done about climate change

2013-11-20 Thread LizR
I'm not completely sure why this is "why nothing will be done about climate change". For one thing, some things are already being done about it - the rise in emissions dropped in 2012 (not wonderful, I know, but some improvement). Interesting article, though. An even stronger case for thorium react

Re: Telmo On the US COnstitution

2013-11-20 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 12:50 AM, LizR wrote: > > > > On 21 November 2013 12:29, Telmo Menezes wrote: >> >> On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 12:07 AM, LizR wrote: >> > On 21 November 2013 11:37, Telmo Menezes wrote: >> >> >> >> > who just did not want to pay taxes to the King of England, >> >> >> >> Goo

Re: Telmo On the US COnstitution

2013-11-20 Thread meekerdb
On 11/20/2013 5:14 PM, Russell Standish wrote: There is always the possibility that the lawmakers (in this case congress) will create a law that is fundamentally in contradiction with the established corpus of constitutional law. It is only right that there exists a body whose role it is to test

Leibniz: I think, therefore there is an I

2013-11-20 Thread Roger Clough
Leibniz: I think, therefore there is an I The true meaning of Descartes' famous dictum, "I think, therefore I am" can be clarified further by restating it using Leibniz' model of being (essence+existent) if the proposition is restated as "I think, therefore there is an I", or equivalently as "

RE: Nuclear power

2013-11-20 Thread Chris de Morsella
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of LizR Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 7:08 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Nuclear power Excellent. Time to drag society into the 19th century on this front, and realise th

Re: Nuclear power

2013-11-20 Thread LizR
Excellent. Time to drag society into the 19th century on this front, and realise that Prohibition. Doesn't. Work. Regulation and taxes, safety campaigns, health warnings, and so on - those work. Prohibition doesn't, and should also be seen as a violation of human rights, because it forces anyone w

RE: Nuclear power

2013-11-20 Thread Chris de Morsella
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bruno Marchal Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 9:17 AM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Nuclear power On 20 Nov 2013, at 17:33, Chris de Morsella wrote: >>The mor

Re: Telmo On the US COnstitution

2013-11-20 Thread Russell Standish
There is always the possibility that the lawmakers (in this case congress) will create a law that is fundamentally in contradiction with the established corpus of constitutional law. It is only right that there exists a body whose role it is to test that. In our country, it is the High Court - my g

Re: Telmo On the US COnstitution

2013-11-20 Thread LizR
On 21 November 2013 12:49, wrote: > Freedom via 3D manufacture. Liberation through material wealth! > A global village, yeah, that's my general outlook too, although we have to get rid of that pesky little problem of slavery* that currently provides most of our material goods in the West, and ma

Re: Telmo On the US COnstitution

2013-11-20 Thread LizR
On 21 November 2013 12:29, Telmo Menezes wrote: > On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 12:07 AM, LizR wrote: > > On 21 November 2013 11:37, Telmo Menezes wrote: > >> > >> > who just did not want to pay taxes to the King of England, > >> > >> Good on them. What next? Pay taxes to wizards and dragons? > >> >

Re: Telmo On the US COnstitution

2013-11-20 Thread spudboy100
Freedom via 3D manufacture. Liberation through material wealth! -Original Message- From: Telmo Menezes To: everything-list Sent: Wed, Nov 20, 2013 6:29 pm Subject: Re: Telmo On the US COnstitution On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 12:07 AM, LizR wrote: > On 21 November 2013 11:37, Telmo Menez

Re: Telmo On the US COnstitution

2013-11-20 Thread spudboy100
No taxes sans representation. That's a different point. If we were prevented selling woolens because the Kings junta back home felt threatened, then Americans had no way to petition parliament. Keeping down the Scots and the Welsh and Irish are one thing, but its harder putting down a continent

Re: Telmo On the US COnstitution

2013-11-20 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 12:07 AM, LizR wrote: > On 21 November 2013 11:37, Telmo Menezes wrote: >> >> > who just did not want to pay taxes to the King of England, >> >> Good on them. What next? Pay taxes to wizards and dragons? >> > Weird comment. The King of England was only, in their view, an i

Re: Telmo On the US COnstitution

2013-11-20 Thread LizR
On 21 November 2013 11:37, Telmo Menezes wrote: > > who just did not want to pay taxes to the King of England, > > Good on them. What next? Pay taxes to wizards and dragons? > > Weird comment. The King of England was only, in their view, an inappropriate subject to pay taxes to because they were

Re: Telmo On the US COnstitution

2013-11-20 Thread Telmo Menezes
Hi John, On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 9:35 PM, John Mikes wrote: > Telmo wrote: > > "I admire the US constitution too. In fact, my political position is > essentially to follow it (although I like to imagine possibilities for > peaceful world with further increases in freedom)." > > Which Constitution

Re: Nuclear power

2013-11-20 Thread LizR
On 21 November 2013 07:56, John Clark wrote: > >> > That's spudboy's straw man. >>> >> > Straw man my ass! > > "Piñata!" Oops, sorry, that's a straw ass... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and

Re: Telmo On the US COnstitution

2013-11-20 Thread LizR
And then there was Noah Webster's attempt to massacre the English language... :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...

Re: Telmo On the US COnstitution

2013-11-20 Thread spudboy100
Yes not the date on the calendar that matters but the behavior of human beings. Is anyone implying that human nature is entirely different then 300 years ago? Or is human nature basically the same. Thus, the economic difference, though vast, appear have purchase in human behavior, still. In fac

Re: Telmo On the US COnstitution

2013-11-20 Thread John Mikes
Thanks, Richard, - very educative! John M On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Richard Ruquist wrote: > Chief Supreme Court Justice Marshall usurped the Constitution > when he maintained that the Supreme Court had the right to rule > laws made by Congress and signed by the President unconstitutiona

Re: Telmo On the US COnstitution

2013-11-20 Thread Richard Ruquist
Chief Supreme Court Justice Marshall usurped the Constitution when he maintained that the Supreme Court had the right to rule laws made by Congress and signed by the President unconstitutional. As a result the USA is essentially ruled by the Supreme Court There is no provision in the US Constitut

Re: Belief vs Truth

2013-11-20 Thread Alberto G. Corona
To say that F = m . a or e= m c2 as truth it is necessary to accept certain beliefs. Belief that at the next moment the laws will not change for example. Let´s go to a human level: in evolutionary terms, I would say that truth is a belief hardcoded by natural selection. Truth would say, is the

Telmo On the US COnstitution

2013-11-20 Thread John Mikes
Telmo wrote: *"I admire the US constitution too. In fact, my political position isessentially to follow it (although I like to imagine possibilities for**peaceful world with further increases in freedom)*." Which Constitution? the one epoch-opening chef-d'oeuvre based on modernized medieval ide

Re: Nuclear power

2013-11-20 Thread John Clark
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 4:42 PM, meekerdb wrote: > >> You've got to give it a number and a number we can have confidence in; > "pretty high" is useless > > > There are plenty of explicit estimates of the cost of sea level rise. > That depends on how much the sea rises and how fast, and yes the

Re: Nuclear power

2013-11-20 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 20 Nov 2013, at 17:33, Chris de Morsella wrote: >>The more urgent sacrifice we have to do is to make cannabis legal, stop prohibition and the lies which go with it. We legalized Cannabis in the state of Washington Yes, I know, and I congratulate your for that. You show the path!

Re: Nuclear power

2013-11-20 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 20 Nov 2013, at 11:12, LizR wrote: My son - now 15 - did a project at school in which he advocated legalising cannabis. He had a lot of good arguments! (Some supplied by me :) Cool! But strictly speaking, there is no need of any argument. It is up to those wanting cannabis illegal to

RE: AP report on Fukushima situation in reactor #1 - Uncertainties abound in Fukushima decommissioning

2013-11-20 Thread Chris de Morsella
Nov. 19, 2013: [...] the real challenge: removing melted or partially melted fuel from the three reactors that had meltdowns, and figuring out how to treat and store it so it won't heat up and start a nuclear reaction again. "This is an unprecedented task that nobody in the world has achieved. We s

RE: Nuclear power

2013-11-20 Thread Chris de Morsella
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bruno Marchal Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 12:59 AM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Nuclear power On 20 Nov 2013, at 01:11, LizR wrote: On 20 November 2013 10:42, mee

Re: Our Demon-Haunted World

2013-11-20 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 11:07 PM, John Mikes wrote: > Telmo wrote: > > I agree. But sometimes we're lazy. > My worry is always the same: the energy budget necessary to drill the > holes and maintain the infrastructure compared to the yield. I'm not > saying this isn't a good idea, just that this a

Re: Nuclear power

2013-11-20 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 11:12 AM, LizR wrote: > My son - now 15 - did a project at school in which he advocated legalising > cannabis. He had a lot of good arguments! (Some supplied by me :) Good! I'm happy to read this. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google G

Re: Global warming silliness

2013-11-20 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 6:37 PM, meekerdb wrote: > On 11/19/2013 1:09 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: >> >> On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 8:39 PM, meekerdb wrote: >>> >>> On 11/18/2013 9:44 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >>> >>> You seem to be arguing against a straw man here. I explained why the >>> free >>> mark

Re: Global warming silliness

2013-11-20 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 7:13 PM, meekerdb wrote: > On 11/19/2013 3:11 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: >> >> On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 8:12 AM, LizR wrote: >>> >>> On 18 November 2013 22:41, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 1:02 AM, LizR wrote: > > This is quite simple. Mark

Re: Nuclear power

2013-11-20 Thread LizR
My son - now 15 - did a project at school in which he advocated legalising cannabis. He had a lot of good arguments! (Some supplied by me :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving ema

Re: Nuclear power

2013-11-20 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 20 Nov 2013, at 01:11, LizR wrote: On 20 November 2013 10:42, meekerdb wrote: On 11/19/2013 10:26 AM, John Clark wrote: Our grandparents didn't make huge sacrifices to their lifestyle to solve some vague I'm not a historian, but are you sure? Not even unintentionally? I'm not argui