That was cool - and almost all of them were songs I wouldn't give house
room to. But it reminded me why I don't like MOR, anthemic,
all-sounds-the-same stuff, and prefer my songs interesting and quirky and
catchy and fun (or in the case of the Smiths, the opposite of fun)
(OK, except for "Poker fa
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On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 12:59 AM, chris peck
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Since I have been on the list longer then you I ask are you here to enforce
progressive ideology? If you're pissed off, that's not my fault, that is your
own. I was just elu
Ta.
On 11 March 2014 14:36, meekerdb wrote:
> On 3/10/2014 2:35 PM, LizR wrote:
>
>> Thanks. Do you know the title of the book, in case I get the chance to
>> read it?
>>
>
> "Decoherence and The Quantum-to-Classical Transition" Springer
>
> Brent
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Yeah this is why I try to be as eclectic as possible. Working with lots of
young people helps, as I was (far more) in my previous job...
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On 3/10/2014 2:35 PM, LizR wrote:
Thanks. Do you know the title of the book, in case I get the chance to read it?
"Decoherence and The Quantum-to-Classical Transition" Springer
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On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 12:59 AM, chris peck wrote:
> Hi PGC
>
> yep. All art, like language, has an etymology.
>
> The Pistols weren't special because they did anything 'new', but because
> they did something that challenged the status quo of the time. When it
> comes to shocking people The Rite
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 12:48 AM, LizR wrote:
> All sounds very plausible to me, PGC. Especially the Neolithic rockers.
> Live fast and die young, indeed...
>
>
Lol, yeah leather clothing, bones, fire, snakes, demons, goddesess and
breasts, phallic rocks and symbols, body art, makeup... all still
Hi PGC
yep. All art, like language, has an etymology.
The Pistols weren't special because they did anything 'new', but because they
did something that challenged the status quo of the time. When it comes to
shocking people The Rite of Spring had the audience rioting at its premier, so
suck on
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 00:26:56 +0100
Subject: Re: The way the future was
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Electric instruments just amplified what was already here.
Beethoven istm was first in rock, metal, punk etc. all the way to dubstep
department;crystall
All sounds very plausible to me, PGC. Especially the Neolithic rockers.
Live fast and die young, indeed...
On 11 March 2014 12:26, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
> Electric instruments just amplified what was already here.
>
> Beethoven istm was first in rock, metal, punk etc. all the way to dub
Electric instruments just amplified what was already here.
Beethoven istm was first in rock, metal, punk etc. all the way to dubstep
department;crystallizing sound's relations with explosive power, defiance,
melancholy or magnificence.
Bach was more goth than punk, I'd guess, especially with the
Elvis (not Costello)...
On 11 March 2014 12:00, chris peck wrote:
> >> whoever put Hendrix as a proto punk should on the same basis add Cream
> and even the Stones. (At this rate everyone will be in on it...)
>
> Rick Astley ... post punk rocker...
>
>
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>> whoever put Hendrix as a proto punk should on the same basis add Cream and
>> even the Stones. (At this rate everyone will be in on it...)
Rick Astley ... post punk rocker...
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 07:45:50 +1300
Subject: Re: The way the future was
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Actually I assume it's this...
http://www.amazon.com/Decoherence-Quantum---Classical-Transition-Collection/dp/3642071422/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1394489389&sr=1-2&keywords=Maximilian+Schlosshauer
Well I will start with the paper. It maye be beyond my brain (no fluffy
kittens).
On 11 Ma
Thanks. Do you know the title of the book, in case I get the chance to read
it?
On 11 March 2014 05:20, meekerdb wrote:
> It's this one http://arxiv.org/pdf/quant-ph/0312059v4.pdf which I think
> is his doctoral thesis. He later expanded it into a book.
>
> Brent
>
>
> On 3/10/2014 12:14 AM,
On Monday, March 10, 2014 2:08:14 PM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>
>
> That relativism argues against comp, and even implicitly against Church
> thesis. But my point is not that comp is true, just that with comp, the
> theory QM + comp is redundant, and we have to justify QM (at the least its
>
Understood. It's not for fixing a bad problem, but for taking more power by
saying there's a bad problem. There probably is, but the behavior of world
leaders is not a response that I would expect, if they really though Florida
was going to disappear in 2 years. There is no cause and effect wi
On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 1:52 PM, John Clark wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 2:47 PM, Jesse Mazer wrote:
>
>>
>> >> That looks like a pretty crappy match to me. What the hell happened
>>> 450 million years ago? And why did the CO2 start to drop 150 million years
>>> ago but the temperature start
Since I have been on the list longer then you I ask are you here to enforce
progressive ideology? If you're pissed off, that's not my fault, that is your
own. I was just elucidating to Liz on her comments to me. I am aware of
technology, but it has to work well and the costs, affordable. No hur
On 10 Mar 2014, at 16:28, Terren Suydam wrote:
Question for you Bruno:.
You say (with help from Theaetetus) that 1p experience is given by
Bp & p. Yet, our experience is often deluded, as in optical
illusions, or in various kinds of emotional & psychological denial.
Can we ever really s
On 10 Mar 2014, at 16:16, Gabriel Bodeen wrote:
On Saturday, March 8, 2014 2:37:50 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote:
A couple other accounts of how things might be that I take
seriously are (1) physicalism in the sense that arithmetical
propositions might only be true when physically realize
I have 4 pistols tracks in my very large and eclectic MP3 music collection,
along with many others generally called punk.
John Lydon also gave me my all time favourite headline, "Sex pistol attacks
New Zealand butter".
I even managed to turn it into a crossword clue -
Enthusiastically attack butt
On 3/10/2014 8:16 AM, Gabriel Bodeen wrote:
The axiomatic of natural numbers is far more simple than anything else. You
can
always propose a much more complex theory to falsify a simple set of axioms.
I don't know that the other cases I've mentioned are more complex. Physicalism just
On 10 March 2014 17:43, Bruno Marchal wrote:
or to bet on normal higher level of simulation, like with Böstrom
Could you elaborate?
David
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On 10 Mar 2014, at 02:15, meekerdb wrote:
On 3/9/2014 5:36 PM, LizR wrote:
Surely QM + collapse makes the prediction that there is a mechanism
that causes the collapse (e.g. Penrose's idea about it being
gravitational) and therefore predicts that at some point that
mechanism will kick in,
Nice to see you treat it this way.
On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 6:01 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>
> On 09 Mar 2014, at 21:46, LizR wrote:
>
> On 10 March 2014 02:15, Edgar L. Owen wrote:
>
>> Russell,
>>
>> Yes, but that is crazy because it assumes all theories are equally valid
>> with which I disag
On Sunday, March 9, 2014 4:31:07 PM UTC, John Clark wrote:
>
> Let me try that again:
>
> On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 11:08 AM, > wrote:
>
>
>>> >>> There's no plausible theory by which clouds could nullify the
>>> warming caused by increased CO2
>>>
>>>
>>> >> If not clouds it's crystal clear that
On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 2:47 PM, Jesse Mazer wrote:
>
> >> That looks like a pretty crappy match to me. What the hell happened 450
>> million years ago? And why did the CO2 start to drop 150 million years ago
>> but the temperature start to climb at the same time?
>>
>
> >I suspect you are asking
On 10 Mar 2014, at 01:17, chris peck wrote:
Hi Bruno
>> With respect to the UDA, graves and me are just using
different vocabulary.
Really?
the last time I quoted her:
"What ... should Alice expect to see? Here I invoke the
following premise: whatever she knows she wil
On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 12:31 PM, wrote:
> According to Chris, "Climate is not the weather" or the local weather. So
> if this suggestion is correct, its local anomalies over the years, driven
> onward, by El Nino' or La Nina' ? According to a report released, last
> week, by the Royal Climate Gr
On 09 Mar 2014, at 21:46, LizR wrote:
On 10 March 2014 02:15, Edgar L. Owen wrote:
Russell,
Yes, but that is crazy because it assumes all theories are equally
valid with which I disagree. Science selects theories based on which
best explain the observable universe.
This is true. David D
On Monday, March 10, 2014 5:48:42 AM UTC-4, stathisp wrote:
>
>
>
>
> On 7 March 2014 15:46, Craig Weinberg >wrote:
>
>> If the doctor became more ambitious, and decided to replace a species
>> with a simulation, we have a ready example of what it might be like. Cars
>> have replaced the functi
According to Chris, "Climate is not the weather" or the local weather. So if
this suggestion is correct, its local anomalies over the years, driven onward,
by El Nino' or La Nina' ? According to a report released, last week, by the
Royal Climate Group and the US national academy of sciences, a
Over a sustained time, 17 years, its no longer a hockey stick, it is climate.
Because you observe weather and confuse it with climate
Chris
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It's this one http://arxiv.org/pdf/quant-ph/0312059v4.pdf which I think is his doctoral
thesis. He later expanded it into a book.
Brent
On 3/10/2014 12:14 AM, LizR wrote:
I would imagine the reason we only perceive one reality is because the brain (and body)
are "classical", which almost begs
On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 8:41 AM, wrote:
> If only we all thought like you, the world would be fixed, eh?
>
Concerning that I think I'll just quote Gore Vidal: "there is no human
problem which could not be solved if people would simply do as I advise".
> > Or, if the climate change doesn't fit
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I understood, what you were going
Question for you Bruno:.
You say (with help from Theaetetus) that 1p experience is given by Bp & p.
Yet, our experience is often deluded, as in optical illusions, or in
various kinds of emotional & psychological denial. Can we ever really say
that our knowledge, even 1p experience, refers to anyth
On Saturday, March 8, 2014 2:37:50 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>
> A couple other accounts of how things might be that I take seriously are
> (1) physicalism in the sense that arithmetical propositions might only be
> true when physically realized,
>
> No problem, and indeed this would make
On 09 Mar 2014, at 19:47, Jesse Mazer wrote:
And take a look at the temperature at zero years ago, does it look
colder or hotter than the average for the last 600 million years?
Of course in the long term, life will be able to adapt to whatever
rise in temperature is caused by global warmi
On 09 Mar 2014, at 19:32, meekerdb wrote:
On 3/9/2014 12:47 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 08 Mar 2014, at 06:16, meekerdb wrote:
On 3/7/2014 8:26 PM, LizR wrote:
On 8 March 2014 08:14, meekerdb wrote:
On 3/7/2014 1:24 AM, LizR wrote:
On 7 March 2014 18:29, meekerdb wrote:
On 3/6/2014 9:15
I understood, what you were going for, but I hit back on old, Chris, because he
changed the conversation to invective-which I am ok with. No big deal, but I
hit back. Secondly, the nice guys, the progressives world-wide, tend to become
more and more oppressive as time goes by. Use a problem lik
On 09 Mar 2014, at 00:58, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 7:43 AM, Russell Standish > wrote:
Hi everyone,
Just want to let everyone know that the English translation of Buno
Marchal's "The Amoeba's Secret" is now available from Amazon's Kindle
store. See http://www.am
On 09 Mar 2014, at 00:53, meekerdb wrote:
On 3/8/2014 3:41 PM, LizR wrote:
On 9 March 2014 08:50, meekerdb wrote:
On 3/8/2014 12:11 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
The existence of the UD is a consequence of elementary axioms in
arithmetic (like x+0=x, etc.).
I can't hardly imagine something les
>> you are saying that something musically significant happened here
Something significant happened to pop music for sure.
In 1977 the charts were dominated by David Soul, Rod Stewart, Brotherhood of
Man, Leo Sayer, Hot Chocolate, Boney M, Shawaddywaddy and Billy Ocean. Daddy
Cool. Rockin' All
On 10 March 2014 22:51, Russell Standish wrote:
>
> Well my answer to solipsism is generally along the lines of worlds
> that have evolved from simpler beginnings will have much higher
> measure than worlds in which we pop out of the air fully formed
> (Boltzmann brain like). Evolution requires p
> On 10 Mar 2014, at 4:30 am, ghib...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Although I have very little good to say about Malcolm McLaren he did arguably
> launch a whole new musical experience with the Sex Pistols, a type of music
> which had until then only been underground (Rezillos? B52s ?) but bubbled t
On 7 March 2014 15:46, Craig Weinberg wrote:
> If the doctor became more ambitious, and decided to replace a species with
> a simulation, we have a ready example of what it might be like. Cars have
> replaced the functionality of horses in human society. They reproduce in a
> different, more cent
On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 07:03:30PM +1300, LizR wrote:
> On 10 March 2014 17:39, Russell Standish wrote:
>
> >
> > If I ask you to measure the value of alpha to 5 significant places,
> > and I was to measure the same thing, then we can compare
> > notes. Intrasubjective consistency predicts that w
I would imagine the reason we only perceive one reality is because the
brain (and body) are "classical", which almost begs the question of course,
but it means that whatever causes macro-objects to generally behave
classically also applies to the brain. (And the senses - if the eyes are
classical,
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