That proof, like any multiverse with no assumptions, includes the
possibility that the earth was supported by a giant over a turtle in a sea
of water and then vanished moments before Magallanes circumnavigated the
globe.
But it add nothing to the beauty of the greek myth. In fact it add nothing
a
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On 6/24/2014 12:39 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Google does not seem to know o
On 25 Jun 2014, at 11:56 am, LizR wrote:
>> My original post was only apparently about Americans and their negative
>> qualities. That was just some content by which to,articulate the main
>> purpose of the thread: a demonstration of "provocation" which is a known
>> thinking skill.
>
> I
Dear Folk,
I thought you might be interested in the following paper, which is
essentially my PhD outcome packaged into a journal paper (49 pages!),
contextualised with respect to consciousness, and now finally published in
a special journal issue on the ‘Hard problem of Consciousness’.
Onl
On 6/24/2014 2:29 AM, LizR wrote:
On 24 June 2014 17:04, meekerdb mailto:meeke...@verizon.net>> wrote:
If primitive matter existed, and if it has a role for consciousness, or
for
consciousness instantiation, step 8, and the argument above, makes that
role
very mysterio
On 6/24/2014 12:39 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Google does not seem to know of its existence.
The net does not know everything, and contains a lot of propaganda of many
kinds.
Bruno
Have you read Scott Aaronson's latest blog in which he discusses the application of Google
technology to th
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Subject: Re: American Intelligence
On 25 Jun 2014, at 5:58 am, LizR wrote:
I assumed Kim's original post
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Subject: Re: Germany sets record for peak energy use - 50 percent comes from
solar (U
This has a few interesting corollaries, ISTM.
1. It hints that there might be a way to distinguish the pilot wave
interpretation of QM from the rest, which could be handy
2. It hints at eternal inflation (the second bit of support for this in the
last few months, assuming the BICEP results stand
On 25 June 2014 01:07, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
> On Tuesday, June 24, 2014, LizR wrote:
>
>> On 24 June 2014 17:04, meekerdb wrote:
>>
>>>
If primitive matter existed, and if it has a role for consciousness, or
for consciousness instantiation, step 8, and the argument above, makes
On 6/23/2014 7:47 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
There is a problem with radical islamism, but the real problem is in the exploitation of
that problem by bandits to hide their lucrative criminal activities.
This is naive. Bandits do lucrative criminal acts to get money which can purchase goods,
lux
On 25 June 2014 08:50, Kim Jones wrote:
>
> My original post was only apparently about Americans and their negative
> qualities. That was just some content by which to,articulate the main
> purpose of the thread: a demonstration of "provocation" which is a known
> thinking skill.
>
I see. So if
On 25 June 2014 03:34, spudboy100 via Everything List <
everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> What about this Irish Times article? It seems to be out of the box
> thinking. I don't know, if true, that it has any value for the human
> species? But it might in my imagination. My imagination, pl
This item in further reading looks interesting too
https://medium.com/the-physics-arxiv-blog/7ef5eea6fd7a
(Not that I'm not busy here at work...[?] )
On 25 June 2014 12:44, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List <
everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> Interesting synopsis of a paper on h
From: LizR
To: everything-list@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 5:37 PM
Subject: Re: Is the supermassive black hole at the center of our galaxy really
a wormhole?
Wait, what's this? "both black holes and wormholes sit behind an event horizon
Interesting synopsis of a paper on http://arxiv.org/abs/1404.1207 -- don't have
access though -- so here is the write up. Not sure if this has already been
discussed here or not.
A Mathematical Proof That The Universe Could Have Formed Spontaneously From
Nothing
A Mathematical Proof That T
Wait, what's this? "both black holes and wormholes sit behind an event
horizon from which light cannot escape" - in that case, what's the use of
it? If nothing can get out (and nothing can if light can't) then how does
it differ from a black hole? I thought the point of wormholes was that they
are
A stargate? I can already hear "Thus spake Zarathustra"...
On 25 June 2014 11:47, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List <
everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> and we should be able to tell pretty soon - Supermassive Black Hole At
> The Centre Of The Galaxy May Be A Wormhole In Disguise,
On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 12:13:32AM -0700, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything
List wrote:
>
>
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Russell Standish
> Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 11:47 PM
> To: everything-lis
Right off the bat: sorry for this slightly OT post. There is stuff about
discrimination/labeling in the linked video clip below, concerning the
profound truth of "All men are rats", however. Higher standards, here we
come!
On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Telmo Menezes
wrote:
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun
On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 04:31:00PM -0400, John Mikes wrote:
> Russell:
> you wrote:
>
>
> *Not really - the peak of the solar spectrum is yellow light. The IR and UV*
> *portions are relatively small components, and what little there is is
> further absorbed by water vapour and the ozone layer re
and we should be able to tell pretty soon - Supermassive Black Hole At The
Centre Of The Galaxy May Be A Wormhole In Disguise, Say Astronomers
Supermassive Black Hole At The Centre Of The Galaxy Ma...
And if it is a wormhole, this is how it would look…
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From: spudboy100 via Everything List
To most "liberals/progressive/Marxists" is a wet dream, a fantasy come true for
them. The "boi" thing is nice and I wish I thought of it. People are not
xenophobic, if they actually have world, idiots actively seeing
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On 25 June 2014 09:22, John Ross wrote:
> The shell is mostly an approximately equal number of very cold electrons
> and positrons, all traveling randomly at 2.19 X 106 m/s. They are going
> too fast to combine as positronium.
>
>
Why is a particle moving "too fast to combine into positronium" -
On 25 June 2014 05:07, John Ross wrote:
> “So what”. My point is you cannot prove Einstein’s relativity theories
> are correct by citing small variations in the ticking of clocks.
>
You can't prove any theory is correct by any observation, you can only
disprove theories. In this case the point
On 25 June 2014 04:48, John Ross wrote:
> The light reflected by the shell of our Universe is the cosmic background
> radiation that has been bouncing around our Universe since the Big Bang.
> Radio wave radiation generated in our Universe reflects from the shell of
> our Universe in about the sa
The shell is mostly an approximately equal number of very cold electrons and
positrons, all traveling randomly at 2.19 X 106 m/s. They are going too fast
to combine as positronium.
J Ross
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> On 25 Jun 2014, at 5:58 am, LizR wrote:
>
> I assumed Kim's original post was intended partly ironically. Clearly there
> are a lot of intelligent Americans, but there does seem to be a bit of a
> "dumbed down" culture there at times.
My original post was only apparently about Americans and
Bruno Hi-Ho for your doctors to doctors. I have a pacemaker inserted by a
physician who is a physicist - or by a physicist who is a physician?
I try to find out behind your English gaffes what you wanted to write. Easy
for me: English is my 5th from 7 and have pitty for the bilinguists.
John M
On
Yeah, I get the thing about religion and all that. This is a bit different
since it speaks to inception (a decent movie) of the Hubble volume, and why
things seem just so. I also like Everett's MWI. Maybe Hell was out-sourced to
Bulgaria? I am guessing that God might be really good to talk with
Russell:
you wrote:
*Not really - the peak of the solar spectrum is yellow light. The IR and UV*
*portions are relatively small components, and what little there is is
further absorbed by water vapour and the ozone layer respectively.*
Is ALL you do mean the SOLAR (!) spectrum we can detect with
>From one of my favorite films of all time. Idiocracy. It's on topic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBvIweCIgwk
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Subject: Re: American Intelligence
I assumed Kim's original post was intended partly
Mich: as long as the Faithful think of God in their (natural) mind the God
they think of IS natural. We cannot think of a supernatural with our
"natural"
mentality and limitations. Anything " WE " think about God is within the
(our!) natural order. Limited into our "model" of knowables.
We can "T
To most "liberals/progressive/Marxists" is a wet dream, a fantasy come true for
them. The "boi" thing is nice and I wish I thought of it. People are not
xenophobic, if they actually have world, idiots actively seeing you go bye bye,
Since the baddies have won the last US election, its their wor
No problem, Richard. I voted for Al Gore in 2000 because he talked about
hydrogen cars, and the other dude was an oil boy, so it was a cinch for me. By
2004 I had changed my vote and allegiance's for some reason. Golly, I wonder
what made the change in world view? My health is not bad, so it wa
I assumed Kim's original post was intended partly ironically. Clearly there
are a lot of intelligent Americans, but there does seem to be a bit of a
"dumbed down" culture there at times.
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>>This will likely bring some sort of conflict, I am guessing. However, a
>>destabilized, US, might be to your liking, emotionally, so as to fit your
>>personal world view? In any case you can test out your national frie
On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 2:52 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List <
everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> *If you had said that I would think that you were informing your world
> view exclusively from the diet of flag wrapped drivel served up by the Fox
> News corp*
>
> You ignore the news medi
If you had said that I would think that you were informing your world view
exclusively from the diet of flag wrapped drivel served up by the Fox News corp
You ignore the news media owned and operated by liberals have never criticized
the American president and are members of the president's p
So what is this photon reflector shell made from? Why wouldn't it absorb rather
than reflect.
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The light reflected by the shell of our Universe is the cosmic back
From: Telmo Menezes
>>I have to say, I find it a bit silly when people identify too much with their
>>nationality (or profession, or gender...) to the point that they get offended
>>when a generic remark is made.
Perhaps we disagree here, but I find the
From: Kim Jones
>>Of course my founding post to this thread was "racist".
Yes... we agree, it was.
It was a clear attempt to label a box and to shove all Americans in there. Not
very smart, you suppose. Not if I myself were unconscious of the inherent
“So what”. My point is you cannot prove Einstein’s relativity theories are
correct by citing small variations in the ticking of clocks.
You know of at least two explanations of gravity: Einstein’s and mine. I
assume you have read my Chapter XX, “Black Holes and Gravity”. My explanation
i
On 24 Jun 2014, at 15:07, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
On Tuesday, June 24, 2014, LizR wrote:
On 24 June 2014 17:04, meekerdb wrote:
If primitive matter existed, and if it has a role for consciousness,
or for consciousness instantiation, step 8, and the argument above,
makes that role ve
The light reflected by the shell of our Universe is the cosmic background
radiation that has been bouncing around our Universe since the Big Bang. Radio
wave radiation generated in our Universe reflects from the shell of our
Universe in about the same manner that radio waves generated on earth
What about this Irish Times article? It seems to be out of the box thinking. I
don't know, if true, that it has any value for the human species? But it might
in my imagination. My imagination, plus 3.50, can get me a coffee latte. Any
thoughts, condemnatory or laudatory.
http://www.irishti
On Tuesday, June 24, 2014, LizR wrote:
> On 24 June 2014 17:04, meekerdb > wrote:
>
>>
>>> If primitive matter existed, and if it has a role for consciousness, or
>>> for consciousness instantiation, step 8, and the argument above, makes that
>>> role very mysterious, so much that it is not clea
On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 2:28 PM, Platonist Guitar Cowboy <
multiplecit...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Telmo Menezes
> wrote:
>
>> I have to say, I find it a bit silly when people identify too much with
>> their nationality (or profession, or gender...) to the point
On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Telmo Menezes
wrote:
> I have to say, I find it a bit silly when people identify too much with
> their nationality (or profession, or gender...) to the point that they get
> offended when a generic remark is made.
>
> It is fairly obvious that Kim is not suggestin
I have to say, I find it a bit silly when people identify too much with
their nationality (or profession, or gender...) to the point that they get
offended when a generic remark is made.
It is fairly obvious that Kim is not suggesting that Chris or Brent or any
other specific American in this list
Of course my founding post to this thread was "racist". It was a clear attempt
to label a box and to shove all Americans in there. Not very smart, you
suppose. Not if I myself were unconscious of the inherent racism of what I
said. But I was fully conscious of it. Is that still racism? It's not
On 24 June 2014 17:04, meekerdb wrote:
>
>> If primitive matter existed, and if it has a role for consciousness, or
>> for consciousness instantiation, step 8, and the argument above, makes that
>> role very mysterious, so much that it is not clear why we could still say
>> yes to the doctor in v
How do we go with Iceland's model? 100% renewables. Just a small countrybut
they jailed the banksters. No one else did that.
http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/country_result.jsp?country=Iceland
Kim
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> On 24 Jun 2014, at 2:38 pm, "'Chris de Morsella'
On 24 Jun 2014, at 07:04, meekerdb wrote:
On 6/22/2014 11:44 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 20 Jun 2014, at 01:20, Russell Standish wrote:
On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 07:53:55PM +0200, Bruno Marchal wrote:
And why do you say that anybody (whether zombie or not) can
*prove*
the existence o
> On 24 Jun 2014, at 2:38 pm, "'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List"
> wrote:
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> Sure there are some A-holes in every bunch, but for the most part in my
> experience people – everywhere -- are not the problem it is systems (be they
> political, religious or economic) that dehumanize pe
On 23 Jun 2014, at 18:39, Richard Ruquist wrote:
On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Bruno Marchal
wrote:
Dear John,
it is wasted time and effort to argue "who is right" in a question
that raises 2 billion children in a 'faith' they will live by - AND
such 'faith' does include the ki
On 23 Jun 2014, at 18:29, John Clark wrote:
On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 3:02 AM, Bruno Marchal
wrote:
>> according to you not believing in God is a variant of
Christianity, and obviously believing in God is another variant of
Christianity, therefore every human being who ever lived is a
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