Re: The MGA revisited

2015-04-06 Thread Russell Standish
On Tue, Apr 07, 2015 at 12:51:30PM +1000, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > I think that Russell is right when he suggested that even by step > seven your dovetailer has to be running in Platonia, not in a > physical embodiment. This has to do with the fact that the > dovetailer can never complete. It is r

RE: Histones (proteins that form the scaffolding around which DNA wraps itself may also themselves be involved in heredity processes

2015-04-06 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of LizR Sent: Monday, April 06, 2015 9:19 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Histones (proteins that form the scaffolding around which DNA wraps itself may also themselves be involved i

Re: The MGA revisited

2015-04-06 Thread LizR
On 6 April 2015 at 08:10, meekerdb wrote: > On 4/5/2015 9:12 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > If you mean something else by physical, I have no idea what you mean. > > > It is what is studied by physics, mainly through empirical means: the > measurable quantities in laboratories. > > Aristotle (w

Re: The Object

2015-04-06 Thread LizR
By the way, the phrase "above my paygrade" was invented by someone less intelligent than you to keep you in your place, at least until they get around to reintroducing full scale feudalism. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To u

Re: DNA Wormholes can cause cancer (what!?)

2015-04-06 Thread 'Roger' via Everything List
> *Subject:* Re: DNA Wormholes can cause cancer (what!?) > > Chris, > Hi. It sounds like you might be in computing since you mentioned some terms like "reposited" (I've never heard of that in bio!)? If so, you are very well educated in biology. Nice job! Your knowledge of the complexi

Re: Histones (proteins that form the scaffolding around which DNA wraps itself may also themselves be involved in heredity processes

2015-04-06 Thread LizR
Anything in the egg cell, or donated at any point during gestation from the mother (in mammals, at least) can be passed on, I assume. (What about mitochondria?) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group an

Re: Michael Graziano's theory of consciousness

2015-04-06 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
On 7 April 2015 at 11:58, John Clark wrote: > On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 Stathis Papaioannou wrote: > >> > you feel that you are the same person from day to day and year to year, >> > even if you know this is an illusion. > > > How would things be different if this were not an illusion? You are less t

Re: The Object

2015-04-06 Thread LizR
That all sounds very plausible to me. (Although sadly my pay grade doesn't match that fact.) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+u

Re: The MGA revisited

2015-04-06 Thread Bruce Kellett
Bruno Marchal wrote: On 06 Apr 2015, at 13:25, Bruce Kellett wrote: You want a dynamic like in physics, a function from time to space, but in computer science, and to understand the problem here, the dynamics are given by function from N to "mind states". You need to give magical ability to

Re: The MGA revisited

2015-04-06 Thread Bruce Kellett
Bruno Marchal wrote: On 06 Apr 2015, at 13:25, Bruce Kellett wrote: Bruno Marchal wrote: To be more precise, I should explain you how "computations" and "emulation" is defined in arithmetic, in term of the truth of elementary number theoretical relations. A computation will exist through th

Re: Michael Graziano's theory of consciousness

2015-04-06 Thread John Clark
On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 Stathis Papaioannou wrote: > you feel that you are the same person from day to day and year to year, > even if you know this is an illusion. How would things be different if this were not an illusion? John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed t

Re: Michael Graziano's theory of consciousness

2015-04-06 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
On 7 April 2015 at 09:57, John Clark wrote: > On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 Telmo Menezes wrote: > >>> Assuming you're like me, you perceive yourself as a single entity >>> travelling through time in the forward direction. >>> >>> >>> >> You? Mr. John Clark The Moscow Man will perceive a single

Re: Michael Graziano's theory of consciousness

2015-04-06 Thread John Clark
On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 Telmo Menezes wrote: >>> Assuming you're like me, you perceive yourself as a single entity >>> travelling through time in the forward direction. >>> >> >> >> You? Mr. John Clark The Moscow Man will perceive a single entity, and >> Mr. John Clark the Washington Man will percei

Re: Life in the Islamic State for women

2015-04-06 Thread John Mikes
Samiya, you sweetly fell into the trap of my polite sentence *(...smarter than me*). I did not mention "absolute" smart. And: I did not ask 'where God came from' - although in an eaarlier post I raised the question 'where (from what system) did the mentioned 'God' come from? A ask, however, Bruno

Re: The MGA revisited

2015-04-06 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 06 Apr 2015, at 13:25, Bruce Kellett wrote: Bruno Marchal wrote: On 06 Apr 2015, at 07:02, Bruce Kellett wrote: Bruno Marchal wrote: On 05 Apr 2015, at 01:19, Russell Standish wrote: Then what is your definition of a recording? In my eyes, UD* is a recording, particularly a finite porti

Re: Life in the Islamic State for women

2015-04-06 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 9:45 PM, meekerdb wrote: > > > It was a totalitarian government, like within a single corporation. > Nothing at all like Marx imagined. Where Marx's idea has been realized is > in the Amana colonies in the US and the kibbutz in Israel. So why didn't > they devolve into to

Re: Michael Graziano's theory of consciousness

2015-04-06 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 11:04 PM, John Clark wrote: > On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 Telmo Menezes wrote: > > > If you take the MWI seriously, then you are open to the possibility that >> you are constantly being duplicated >> > > If the MWI is true then it's not a possibility it's a certainty > > >> > Ass

Re: Fast moves for nuclear development in Siberia

2015-04-06 Thread John Clark
On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 , meekerdb wrote: > > In general you can't assume that it takes one critical mass to make a > bomb. > You do unless you're very sophisticated, otherwise it will likely take you more than one critical mass to make a bomb, for example the critical mass of U235 is 114 pounds bu

Re: The Object

2015-04-06 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Yes, this discussion is, as the saying goes, "above my pay grade" but I do it to please (neurobiologically) my amygdala, and satisfy my cerebrum. Since I am stealing and modifying Eric Steinhart's theories on the Universe(s), consciousness, Leibniz, existence, and all the rest, I would say that

Re: The MGA revisited

2015-04-06 Thread Bruce Kellett
Bruno Marchal wrote: On 06 Apr 2015, at 07:02, Bruce Kellett wrote: Bruno Marchal wrote: On 05 Apr 2015, at 01:19, Russell Standish wrote: Then what is your definition of a recording? In my eyes, UD* is a recording, particularly a finite portion of it, such as the first 10,000 steps of the f

Re: Fast moves for nuclear development in Siberia

2015-04-06 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Agreed. -Original Message- From: 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List To: everything-list Sent: Sun, Apr 5, 2015 9:37 pm Subject: RE: Fast moves for nuclear development in Siberia From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] Sent

Re: Fast moves for nuclear development in Siberia

2015-04-06 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Brent, Fear of a nuclear accident, in the 80's Chernobyl, and in 2011, Fukushima. In Germany, the government shutdown uranium, and bought tons and tons, of cheap US bituminous and anthracite, to burn in their old, power plants. Merkel started last year, to re-light the atom plants once again,

Re: The Object

2015-04-06 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 04 Apr 2015, at 19:04, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: My view is that rather than being a simulation, our universe and an infinitude of others,are programs that yields physical universes, as a programmatic process. ? That seems contradictory. Being a simulation means being brough

Re: The MGA revisited

2015-04-06 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 06 Apr 2015, at 07:02, Bruce Kellett wrote: Bruno Marchal wrote: On 05 Apr 2015, at 01:19, Russell Standish wrote: Then what is your definition of a recording? In my eyes, UD* is a recording, particularly a finite portion of it, such as the first 10,000 steps of the first 10,000 programs.

Re: Life in the Islamic State for women

2015-04-06 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 06 Apr 2015, at 08:09, Samiya Illias wrote: John, How is it possible to find someone absolutely 'smarter' when each one knows/understands something more about something than others, and is less informed about something than someone else? The scriptures seem to be the only source of 'smar