Re: A thought on MWI and its alternative(s)

2017-05-30 Thread Pierz
On Wednesday, May 31, 2017 at 3:28:18 PM UTC+10, Brent wrote: > > Sorry. Something funny with my verizon account. > > Brent > > On 5/30/2017 8:09 PM, Pierz Newton-John wrote: > > Brent, are you replying from a mobile? I’m still receiving your replies, > as others are, on my private email. Th

Re: A thought on MWI and its alternative(s)

2017-05-30 Thread Brent Meeker
Sorry. Something funny with my verizon account. Brent On 5/30/2017 8:09 PM, Pierz Newton-John wrote: Brent, are you replying from a mobile? I’m still receiving your replies, as others are, on my private email. That’s what happens to me when I try to reply using my iPhone. The "reply to all"

Re: A thought on MWI and its alternative(s)

2017-05-30 Thread Bruce Kellett
On 31/05/2017 12:30 pm, Pierz wrote: Thanks for these clarifications Bruce. I find your explanations to be very lucid and helpful - they also confirm my own understanding. Thank you for the kind comments, I try my best to be clear. IIRC, you weren't a particular fan of MWI when I last converse

Re: A thought on MWI and its alternative(s)

2017-05-30 Thread Pierz
Thanks for these clarifications Bruce. I find your explanations to be very lucid and helpful - they also confirm my own understanding. IIRC, you weren't a particular fan of MWI when I last conversed with you on this list. I wonder if you'd care to comment on my original argument on this thread

Re: A thought on MWI and its alternative(s)

2017-05-30 Thread Bruce Kellett
On 30/05/2017 9:35 pm, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 30 May 2017, at 11:28, Telmo Menezes wrote: I get your point with decoherence. Again, I would say that it all depends on theories of mind. What does mind supervene on? Perhaps it is true that every single coupling with the environment prevents the

Re: A thought on MWI and its alternative(s)

2017-05-30 Thread David Nyman
On 30 May 2017 at 14:48, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > On 30 May 2017, at 14:10, Telmo Menezes wrote: > > On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 1:35 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> >>> On 30 May 2017, at 11:28, Telmo Menezes wrote: >>> >>> On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 3:47 AM, Pierz wrote: > > > >

Re: Answers to David 4

2017-05-30 Thread David Nyman
On 30 May 2017 at 13:05, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > On 29 May 2017, at 13:42, David Nyman wrote: > > > > On 29 May 2017 at 05:27, Brent Meeker wrote: > >> >> >> On 5/28/2017 3:40 AM, David Nyman wrote: >> >> >> >> On 28 May 2017 5:52 a.m., "Brent Meeker" wrote: >> >> >> >> On 5/27/2017 3:20 PM, D

Re: A thought on MWI and its alternative(s)

2017-05-30 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 30 May 2017, at 14:10, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 1:35 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 30 May 2017, at 11:28, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 3:47 AM, Pierz wrote: On Tuesday, May 30, 2017 at 9:14:07 AM UTC+10, Bruce wrote: On 29/05/2017 11:21 pm, Tel

Re: A thought on MWI and its alternative(s)

2017-05-30 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 1:55 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote: > On 30/05/2017 7:28 pm, Telmo Menezes wrote: >> >> On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 3:47 AM, Pierz wrote: >>> >>> So you are talking different >>> languages. >> >> Not sure I agree. We are perhaps implicitly assuming different theories of >> mind. >>

Re: A thought on MWI and its alternative(s)

2017-05-30 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 1:35 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > On 30 May 2017, at 11:28, Telmo Menezes wrote: > >> On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 3:47 AM, Pierz wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tuesday, May 30, 2017 at 9:14:07 AM UTC+10, Bruce wrote: On 29/05/2017 11:21 pm, Telmo Menezes wrote: >

Re: Answers to David 4

2017-05-30 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 29 May 2017, at 13:42, David Nyman wrote: On 29 May 2017 at 05:27, Brent Meeker wrote: On 5/28/2017 3:40 AM, David Nyman wrote: On 28 May 2017 5:52 a.m., "Brent Meeker" wrote: On 5/27/2017 3:20 PM, David Nyman wrote: I think what is meant by the reversal is clear enough. The fo

Re: A thought on MWI and its alternative(s)

2017-05-30 Thread Bruce Kellett
On 30/05/2017 7:28 pm, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 3:47 AM, Pierz wrote: So you are talking different languages. Not sure I agree. We are perhaps implicitly assuming different theories of mind. I don't know if Telmo is aware or not of the conventional view of decoherence - t

Re: Answer to David 3

2017-05-30 Thread David Nyman
On 30 May 2017 at 12:10, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > On 29 May 2017, at 20:30, David Nyman wrote: > > On 29 May 2017 at 17:40, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> >> On 28 May 2017, at 19:32, David Nyman wrote: >> >> On 28 May 2017 at 18:02, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> >>> On 28 May 2017, at 16:53, David Ny

Re: A thought on MWI and its alternative(s)

2017-05-30 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 30 May 2017, at 11:28, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 3:47 AM, Pierz wrote: On Tuesday, May 30, 2017 at 9:14:07 AM UTC+10, Bruce wrote: On 29/05/2017 11:21 pm, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 3:06 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 29/05/2017 10:42 pm, Telmo Mene

Re: Answer to David 3

2017-05-30 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 29 May 2017, at 20:30, David Nyman wrote: On 29 May 2017 at 17:40, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 28 May 2017, at 19:32, David Nyman wrote: On 28 May 2017 at 18:02, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 28 May 2017, at 16:53, David Nyman wrote: On 28 May 2017 at 14:38, Bruno Marchal wrote: ​Yes, that'

Re: A thought on MWI and its alternative(s)

2017-05-30 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 3:47 AM, Pierz wrote: > > > On Tuesday, May 30, 2017 at 9:14:07 AM UTC+10, Bruce wrote: >> >> On 29/05/2017 11:21 pm, Telmo Menezes wrote: >> > On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 3:06 PM, Bruce Kellett >> > wrote: >> >> On 29/05/2017 10:42 pm, Telmo Menezes wrote: >> >>> On Mon, May