On 7/06/2017 5:51 am, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Here I found a not too bad paper on this subtle subject:
https://arxiv.org/pdf/0902.3827.pdf
He do the calculus that different people have done sometimes. I mainly
agree with it, but read it quickly.
His notation is somewhat difficult to follow. But
On 6 June 2017 at 01:46, Bruce Kellett wrote:
> On 6/06/2017 10:21 am, David Nyman wrote:
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> On 6 June 2017 at 00:23, Bruce Kellett <
> bhkell...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
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>> On 5/06/2017 8:42 pm, Bruno Marchal wrote:
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>> I am not alone skeptical about inferring that the violation of the Bell
Telmo Menezes wrote:
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>> all this hand wringing over consciousness is a waste of time because
>> we already know as much as we're ever going to know about that.
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> Perhaps you're right, but on the other hand nobody is forcing you to have
> the discussion. I'm happy to discuss AI
I am completely new to Google Groups, and so I hope you may understand if
my intrusion here is inappropriate or if I break any protocols in replying
to this topic. I came across this Group while searching for a paper.
I was very taken by Pierz’s first statement, as it reminded me of my own
On 05 Jun 2017, at 19:09, David Nyman wrote:
On 5 June 2017 at 17:38, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 05 Jun 2017, at 15:48, David Nyman wrote:
On 5 June 2017 at 14:22, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 04 Jun 2017, at 14:48, David Nyman wrote:
On 4 Jun 2017 1:05 p.m., "Bruno Marchal" wrote:
On 02 Ju
On 05 Jun 2017, at 21:48, Brent Meeker wrote:
Here Scott Aaronson addresses the "pretty-hard problem of
consciousness"
http://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=1951
Not much time to read it all, but very interesting. But they miss the
point. They still don't listen to the machine.
I would
On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 6:35 PM, John Clark wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 10:11 AM, Telmo Menezes
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>>> Besides that Mrs. Lincoln how did you like the play?
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>> Why so nasty?
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> It's been 152 years. Too soon?
I don't know, but I have a friend who is obsessed
On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 6:07 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
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> On 05 Jun 2017, at 16:07, Telmo Menezes wrote:
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> I guess you mean that it does not violate Church thesis.
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> Yes.
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> Of course, it can
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> "do" things impossible to do in real time, or without emulating the subject,
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> that a classica
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