Re: aiming to complete Everett's derivation of the Born Rule

2022-04-16 Thread Brent Meeker
Consider the converse.  When you comprehend some physical evolution, is it essential that it be deterministic.  Every event has many causes, do you have to know every one of them to comprehend it? Think of all the things you would have to say did NOT happen in order that your comprehension be

Re: NYTimes.com: Don’t Just Freeze Russia’s Money. Seize It.

2022-04-16 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
No, the Machine Intel's will enjoy it too. But how can I know they'll enjoy it? Golly.  -Original Message- From: Brent Meeker To: John Clark ; spudboy...@aol.com Cc: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Sat, Apr 16, 2022 3:33 pm Subject: Re: NYTimes.com: Don’t Just Freeze Russia’s

Re: NYTimes.com: Don’t Just Freeze Russia’s Money. Seize It.

2022-04-16 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
You are notoriously erratic and moody! I liked some of the things Trump did, I was so-so on other things. I'm a hard guy to please. I did love his comedic timing when he did his spiels at rallies. Best comic warm ups in the US. For me, all I need is for the elites to finally go into survival

Re: aiming to complete Everett's derivation of the Born Rule

2022-04-16 Thread Alan Grayson
I think you're fooling yourself if you think a non-determinsitic process is comprehensible. AG On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 5:46:09 PM UTC-6 meeke...@gmail.com wrote: > > > On 4/16/2022 4:24 PM, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 5:03:55 PM UTC-6 meeke...@gmail.com

Re: NYTimes.com: Don’t Just Freeze Russia’s Money. Seize It.

2022-04-16 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
That's a big IF, so hopefully the cash will go into more Javelin's for Vlad's armor.  -Original Message- From: John Clark To: 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List Cc: meekerbr...@gmail.com Sent: Sat, Apr 16, 2022 11:43 am Subject: Re: NYTimes.com: Don’t Just Freeze Russia’s Money.

Re: NYTimes.com: Don’t Just Freeze Russia’s Money. Seize It.

2022-04-16 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Rather than deny my assertions you have reinforced them JC. Stalin cannot hurt you if one is Stalin. in case you missed the script? Joey, like Obama has energized the opposition. I would go so far as to say that sans, Barrack, Donald would never have taken off. Joe Joe is Barry on steroids. So,

Re: aiming to complete Everett's derivation of the Born Rule

2022-04-16 Thread Brent Meeker
On 4/16/2022 4:24 PM, Alan Grayson wrote: On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 5:03:55 PM UTC-6 meeke...@gmail.com wrote: On 4/16/2022 2:58 PM, Alan Grayson wrote: On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 1:44:09 PM UTC-6 meeke...@gmail.com wrote: On 4/16/2022 8:34 AM, Alan

Re: aiming to complete Everett's derivation of the Born Rule

2022-04-16 Thread Alan Grayson
On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 5:03:55 PM UTC-6 meeke...@gmail.com wrote: > > > On 4/16/2022 2:58 PM, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 1:44:09 PM UTC-6 meeke...@gmail.com wrote: > >> >> >> On 4/16/2022 8:34 AM, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> Of course I favour the first

Re: The Nature of Contingency: Quantum Physics as Modal Realism

2022-04-16 Thread Brent Meeker
On 4/16/2022 3:22 PM, George Kahrimanis wrote: *CHANGE OF MIND.*Not that I made any technical mistake in my previous posting, but I failed to think out the conclusion properly. I was just stupid -- am I allowed to flame myself? In brief: splits propagating on light cones seems to be the

Re: aiming to complete Everett's derivation of the Born Rule

2022-04-16 Thread Brent Meeker
On 4/16/2022 2:58 PM, Alan Grayson wrote: On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 1:44:09 PM UTC-6 meeke...@gmail.com wrote: On 4/16/2022 8:34 AM, Alan Grayson wrote: Of course I favour the first version of the argument, using the many-world formulation of collapse, to avoid

Re: The Nature of Contingency: Quantum Physics as Modal Realism

2022-04-16 Thread George Kahrimanis
*CHANGE OF MIND.* Not that I made any technical mistake in my previous posting, but I failed to think out the conclusion properly. I was just stupid -- am I allowed to flame myself? In brief: splits propagating on light cones seems to be the correct conclusion, properly understood. Sorry for

Re: aiming to complete Everett's derivation of the Born Rule

2022-04-16 Thread Alan Grayson
On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 1:44:09 PM UTC-6 meeke...@gmail.com wrote: > > > On 4/16/2022 8:34 AM, Alan Grayson wrote: > > Of course I favour the first version of the argument, using the many-world >> formulation of collapse, to avoid the "God plays dice" nightmare. >> >> >> Why this fear

Re: aiming to complete Everett's derivation of the Born Rule

2022-04-16 Thread Brent Meeker
On 4/16/2022 8:34 AM, Alan Grayson wrote: Of course I favour the first version of the argument, using the many-world formulation of collapse, to avoid the "God plays dice" nightmare. Why this fear of true randomness?  We have all kinds of classical randomness we just

Re: NYTimes.com: Don’t Just Freeze Russia’s Money. Seize It.

2022-04-16 Thread Brent Meeker
On 4/16/2022 8:34 AM, John Clark wrote: And happy Jesus zombie day to you too. Don't let that death cult figure spoil your appreciation of the renewal of spring time.  Jesus will go the way of Isis, Quetzalcoatl, Rama, Zeus, Thor, Ba Xian, Dagon, Vishnu, and a hundred others.  Spring will

Re: NYTimes.com: Don’t Just Freeze Russia’s Money. Seize It.

2022-04-16 Thread John Clark
On Sat, Apr 16, 2022 at 10:43 AM wrote: *> Economically Fascism is Fascism whoever is in power. I mean specifically > rule by the rich, Plutocracy,* > And that's why you want to put a billionaire plutocrat fascist back in power, and not just any old billionaire plutocrat fascist, but a

Re: NYTimes.com: Don’t Just Freeze Russia’s Money. Seize It.

2022-04-16 Thread John Clark
On Sat, Apr 16, 2022 at 10:16 AM spudboy100 via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: * > I am guessing that you believe taking the man's overseas goodies will > being him to obey?* > I believe that $100 billion would help Ukraine one hell of a lot in defending itself

Re: NYTimes.com: Don’t Just Freeze Russia’s Money. Seize It.

2022-04-16 Thread John Clark
On Sat, Apr 16, 2022 at 10:03 AM wrote: *> Was it Caligula who said, "It takes a dog to eat a dog."* > I think it was the Emperor Tiberius who said that when asked why he picked Caligula to be his successor; but it doesn't matter, what should've been said was "it takes a smart dog and one that

Re: aiming to complete Everett's derivation of the Born Rule

2022-04-16 Thread Alan Grayson
On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 12:41:03 PM UTC-6 meeke...@gmail.com wrote: > > > On 4/14/2022 2:00 PM, George Kahrimanis wrote: > > On Wednesday, April 13, 2022 at 8:55:48 PM UTC+3 meeke...@gmail.com > (Brent) wrote: > > Decoherence has gone part way in solving the when/where/what basis >>

Re: NYTimes.com: Bill Gates: How to Develop Life-Saving Drugs Much Faster

2022-04-16 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
I shan't subscribe to the NYT because of said, paywall. I'd consider subscribing to Bloomberg because he and his publication is an order of magnitude less insane then NYT. I obdure your NYT reference however helpful it may be.  Since thou art a money guy JC, here is one from Seeking Alpha

Re: NYTimes.com: Don’t Just Freeze Russia’s Money. Seize It.

2022-04-16 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Economically Fascism is Fascism whoever is in power. I mean specifically rule by the rich, Plutocracy, as in Crony Capitalism, be it Military contractors, or Woke Corporation$, just follow the campaign donations.  Oligarchy-

Re: NYTimes.com: Don’t Just Freeze Russia’s Money. Seize It.

2022-04-16 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
I am guessing that you believe taking the man's overseas goodies will being him to obey? So, when it doesn't work who will the IC send to spank Vlad's pee-pee, somebody in a blue helmet and a warrant? Golly, that may not work either! Do you possess any evidence that this will work? So, the

Re: NYTimes.com: Don’t Just Freeze Russia’s Money. Seize It.

2022-04-16 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Will the proposal by the NYT as submitted by JC work or not?  Also, what is your foreign policy solution, Mr. Quantum?  -Original Message- From: Brent Meeker To: spudboy...@aol.com; everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Fri, Apr 15, 2022 11:04 pm Subject: Re: NYTimes.com: Don’t Just

Re: NYTimes.com: Don’t Just Freeze Russia’s Money. Seize It.

2022-04-16 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
" Bloviation is speech or writing that is wordy, pompous, and generally empty of meaning: verbosity. Verb: bloviate. A person who bloviates is a bloviator.Feb 12, 2020" Too many words?  -Original Message- From: Brent Meeker To: spudboy100 via Everything List Sent: Fri, Apr 15, 2022

Re: NYTimes.com: Don’t Just Freeze Russia’s Money. Seize It.

2022-04-16 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Yeah, JC. I don't trust reco's from Joey and company or the NYT. If I were chieftain, I'd be bouncing ideas off of different people with a rep for accuracy in assessments, as well as foreign policy people. This is not a worry for you, but reflecting upon Joe's Afghanistan fiasco, I'd say it's

NYTimes.com: Bill Gates: How to Develop Life-Saving Drugs Much Faster

2022-04-16 Thread John Clark
Check out this article from The New York Times. Because I'm a subscriber, you'll be able to read it for free. Bill Gates: How to Develop Life-Saving Drugs Much Faster We need to accelerate our work on safe medicines that help combat quick-spreading pathogens like the coronavirus.

Re: NYTimes.com: Don’t Just Freeze Russia’s Money. Seize It.

2022-04-16 Thread John Clark
On Fri, Apr 15, 2022 at 10:38 PM Brent Meeker wrote: > *Is there anything to prevent the US from recognizing it* [the world > court] *tomorrow? * > Yes, Republicans. Thanks to the filibuster there's not a snowball's chance in hell of it getting confirmed by the US Senate. Maybe if we're lucky