Re: The multiverse is unscientific nonsense??

2023-11-21 Thread John Clark
On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 5:32 PM Bruce Kellett wrote: >> Einstein thought he had proven that quantum mechanics* must *be >> incomplete because nature just couldn't be that ridiculous. But it turned >> out nature *could* be that ridiculous. The moral of the story is that >> being ridiculous is not

Re: The multiverse is unscientific nonsense??

2023-11-21 Thread Jason Resch
On Mon, Nov 20, 2023, 3:32 PM John Clark wrote: > On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 1:22 PM Jesse Mazer wrote: > > *> Depends what you mean by "couldn't be true"--my understanding is that >> Einstein's EPR paper was just asserting that there must be additional >> elements of reality beyond the quantum des

Re: The multiverse is unscientific nonsense??

2023-11-21 Thread 'scerir' via Everything List
Just an interesting quote. “The idea that they [measurement outcomes] be not alternatives but *all* really happen simultaneously seems lunatic to him [the quantum theorist], just *impossible*. He thinks that if the laws of nature took *this* form for, let me say, a quarter of an hour, we should

Re: The multiverse is unscientific nonsense??

2023-11-21 Thread John Clark
On Tue, Nov 21, 2023 at 11:17 AM 'scerir' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > Just an interesting quote. > “*The idea that they [measurement outcomes] be not alternatives but *all* > really happen simultaneously seems lunatic to him [the quantum theorist], > just *im

Re: The multiverse is unscientific nonsense??

2023-11-21 Thread Jason Resch
On Tue, Nov 21, 2023, 11:17 AM 'scerir' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Just an interesting quote. > “The idea that they [measurement outcomes] be not alternatives but *all* > really happen simultaneously seems lunatic to him [the quantum theorist], > just *impossi

Re: The multiverse is unscientific nonsense??

2023-11-21 Thread 'scerir' via Everything List
According to Schroedinger (1935) the psi-function is a catalogue of expectations. Continuing with the exposition of the official teaching, let us turn to the psi-function mentioned above (§ 5). It is now the instrument for predicting the probability of measurement outcomes. It embodies the tota

Re: The multiverse is unscientific nonsense??

2023-11-21 Thread Brent Meeker
On 11/21/2023 4:11 AM, John Clark wrote: On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 5:32 PM Bruce Kellett wrote: >> Einstein thought he had proven that quantum mechanics*must *be incomplete because nature just couldn't be that ridiculous. But it turned out nature *could* be that ridicul

Re: The multiverse is unscientific nonsense??

2023-11-21 Thread Brent Meeker
On 11/21/2023 7:43 AM, Jason Resch wrote: On Mon, Nov 20, 2023, 3:32 PM John Clark wrote: On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 1:22 PM Jesse Mazer wrote: /> Depends what you mean by "couldn't be true"--my understanding is that Einstein's EPR paper was just asserting tha