On 28 Jul 2015, at 22:24, meekerdb wrote:
On 7/28/2015 1:12 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 28 Jul 2015, at 20:33, meekerdb wrote:
On 7/28/2015 10:56 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
To refute what I say, you have to show a math theory which
assumes something physical. Even quantum information theory
On 7/28/2015 1:12 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 28 Jul 2015, at 20:33, meekerdb wrote:
On 7/28/2015 10:56 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
To refute what I say, you have to show a math theory which assumes something physical.
Even quantum information theory does not assume any physical objects. They as
On 28 Jul 2015, at 20:33, meekerdb wrote:
On 7/28/2015 10:56 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
To refute what I say, you have to show a math theory which assumes
something physical. Even quantum information theory does not assume
any physical objects. They assume only mathematical relations.
That'
On 7/28/2015 10:56 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
To refute what I say, you have to show a math theory which assumes something physical.
Even quantum information theory does not assume any physical objects. They assume only
mathematical relations.
That's not significant. Information theory is the
On 28 Jul 2015, at 04:46, John Clark wrote:
David Deutsch Wrote::
>Many mathematicians to this day don't realize that information
is physical and that there is no such thing as an abstract computer.
Only a physical object can compute things.
Bruno Marchal Wrote:
> That approach m
David Deutsch Wrote::
>
> Many mathematicians to this day don't realize that information is physical
> and that there is no such thing as an abstract computer. Only a physical
> object can compute things.
Bruno Marchal
Wrote:
>
> That approach makes mysterious mind, matter, and the rel
n to support a conclusion.
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From: Bruno Marchal
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Sent: Mon, Jul 27, 2015 12:16 pm
Subject: Re: David Deutsch and Constructor Theory
On 26 Jul 2015, at 21:05, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:
I understand the need and
On 27 Jul 2015, at 02:36, Russell Standish wrote:
On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 06:26:05PM +0200, Bruno Marchal wrote:
I am a computationalist, myself, (a.k.a Digitalist), and like this
sort of thing, but, ...meh! I don't see how this work informs us?
Deutsch seems to be not aware that if compu
plains why the
notion is better described as sub-creative (Post creative set = Turing
universal machine, universal with respect to computability).
Bruno
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From: Bruno Marchal
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Subject: Re: David Deutsch and C
On 26 Jul 2015, at 20:58, meekerdb wrote:
On 7/26/2015 4:16 AM, Bruce Kellett wrote:
David Deutsch has some things to say which are relevant to
discussions of computationalism.
http://edge.org/conversation/constructor-theory
"One of the first rather unexpected yields of this theory has bee
On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 06:26:05PM +0200, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>
>
> >I am a computationalist, myself, (a.k.a Digitalist), and like this
> >sort of thing, but, ...meh! I don't see how this work informs us?
>
> Deutsch seems to be not aware that if computationalism is true, then
> the existence o
: Sun, Jul 26, 2015 12:26 pm
Subject: Re: David Deutsch and Constructor Theory
On 26 Jul 2015, at 14:48, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:
Heh! I have read Deutsches thesis on Constructor Theory a few times and I
cannot really grasp it, intellectually, except as a spin-off of
On 7/26/2015 4:16 AM, Bruce Kellett wrote:
David Deutsch has some things to say which are relevant to discussions of
computationalism.
http://edge.org/conversation/constructor-theory
"One of the first rather unexpected yields of this theory has been a new foundation for
information theory. Th
e. Comp + self-
reference explains both quanta and qualia, using no more than the two
simple assumption Kxy = y, and Sxyz = xz(yz).
Bruno
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From: Bruce Kellett
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Sent: Sun, Jul 26, 2015 7:16 am
Subject: David Deutsch and Constructor Theory
David
On 26 Jul 2015, at 13:16, Bruce Kellett wrote:
David Deutsch has some things to say which are relevant to
discussions of computationalism.
http://edge.org/conversation/constructor-theory
"One of the first rather unexpected yields of this theory has been a
new foundation for information th
, and like this sort of thing, but,
...meh! I don't see how this work informs us?
-Original Message-
From: Bruce Kellett
To: everything-list
Sent: Sun, Jul 26, 2015 7:16 am
Subject: David Deutsch and Constructor Theory
David Deutsch has some things to say which are relevan
David Deutsch has some things to say which are relevant to discussions
of computationalism.
http://edge.org/conversation/constructor-theory
"One of the first rather unexpected yields of this theory has been a new
foundation for information theory. There's a notorious problem with
defining inf
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