Re: Maxwell's Equations (ME)

2024-10-03 Thread smitra
I see! You indeed need to transform both the 4-vector and the coordinate system for the GR formalism to apply here. Saibal On 02-10-2024 00:45, Alan Grayson wrote: On Tuesday, October 1, 2024 at 6:44:04 AM UTC-6 smitra wrote: On 26-09-2024 12:22, Alan Grayson wrote: Maxwell's Equations are

Re: Maxwell's Equations (ME)

2024-10-01 Thread Alan Grayson
On Tuesday, October 1, 2024 at 6:44:04 AM UTC-6 smitra wrote: On 26-09-2024 12:22, Alan Grayson wrote: > Maxwell's Equations are written in vector form, and vectors are > tensors, and tensors are invariant under change of coordinates. It is > known that ME are invariant under the Lorentz tran

Re: Maxwell's Equations (ME)

2024-10-01 Thread John Clark
On Mon, Sep 30, 2024 at 11:14 PM Alan Grayson wrote: *>> A rank 1 Tensor (a.k.a. * *a vector) is not necessarily invariant under > changes in the coordinate system, instead it transforms in a **specific, > consistent way**. For example angular momentum is not invariant under > coordinate* *transl

Re: Maxwell's Equations (ME)

2024-10-01 Thread smitra
On 26-09-2024 12:22, Alan Grayson wrote: Maxwell's Equations are written in vector form, and vectors are tensors, and tensors are invariant under change of coordinates. It is known that ME are invariant under the Lorentz transformation, and predict that EM waves travel at the velocity of light re

Re: Maxwell's Equations (ME)

2024-10-01 Thread Alan Grayson
On Monday, September 30, 2024 at 1:41:16 PM UTC-6 John Clark wrote: On Mon, Sep 30, 2024 at 3:14 AM Alan Grayson wrote: *> there's a subtle but important difference between coordinate transformations, and frame of reference transformations* *That's very true. A rank 1 Tensor (a.k.a. * *a v

Re: Maxwell's Equations (ME)

2024-09-30 Thread Alan Grayson
On Monday, September 30, 2024 at 1:41:16 PM UTC-6 John Clark wrote: On Mon, Sep 30, 2024 at 3:14 AM Alan Grayson wrote: *> there's a subtle but important difference between coordinate transformations, and frame of reference transformations* *That's very true. A rank 1 Tensor (a.k.a. * *a v

Re: Maxwell's Equations (ME)

2024-09-30 Thread John Clark
On Mon, Sep 30, 2024 at 3:14 AM Alan Grayson wrote: *> there's a subtle but important difference between coordinate > transformations, and frame of reference transformations* *That's very true. A rank 1 Tensor (a.k.a. * *a vector) is not necessarily invariant under changes in the coordinate sy

Re: Maxwell's Equations (ME)

2024-09-30 Thread Alan Grayson
On Sunday, September 29, 2024 at 8:04:32 PM UTC-6 Brent Meeker wrote: A Galilean boost *could be* an accurate transformation in some other world, but it's not in this world. It's only an approximation at small boosts. There can be more than one mathematically consistent transformation but o

Re: Maxwell's Equations (ME)

2024-09-29 Thread Brent Meeker
A Galilean boost /could be/ an accurate transformation in some other world, but it's not in this world.  It's only an approximation at small boosts.  There can be more than one mathematically consistent transformation but only one physically realized one. Brent On 9/29/2024 6:16 PM, Alan Gra

Re: Maxwell's Equations (ME)

2024-09-29 Thread Alan Grayson
On Sunday, September 29, 2024 at 12:29:34 PM UTC-6 John Clark wrote: On Sun, Sep 29, 2024 at 2:07 PM Alan Grayson wrote: * >> Galilean relativity is a very good approximation of reality as long as the speeds don't become too high, and it would also be completely invariant under coordinate tr

Re: Maxwell's Equations (ME)

2024-09-29 Thread John Clark
On Sun, Sep 29, 2024 at 2:07 PM Alan Grayson wrote: * >> Galilean relativity is a very good approximation of reality as long as > the speeds don't become too high, and it would also be completely invariant > under coordinate transformation IF Galileo's assumptions were correct; > namely that ther

Re: Maxwell's Equations (ME)

2024-09-29 Thread Alan Grayson
On Sunday, September 29, 2024 at 11:17:08 AM UTC-6 John Clark wrote: On Sun, Sep 29, 2024 at 8:41 AM Alan Grayson wrote: *> But ME are written in tensor form. * *Yes. * *> Doesn't that mean the equations are invariant under coordinate transformations?* *Yes.* *>If so, shouldn't ME be in

Re: Maxwell's Equations (ME)

2024-09-29 Thread John Clark
On Sun, Sep 29, 2024 at 8:41 AM Alan Grayson wrote: *> But ME are written in tensor form. * > *Yes. * *> Doesn't that mean the equations are invariant under coordinate > transformations?* > *Yes.* *>If so, shouldn't ME be invariant under the Galilean transformation, which > is a coordinate tr

Re: Maxwell's Equations (ME)

2024-09-29 Thread Alan Grayson
On Sunday, September 29, 2024 at 6:08:07 AM UTC-6 John Clark wrote: On Sun, Sep 29, 2024 at 6:57 AM Alan Grayson wrote: *>> Yes and that's why Maxwell's Equations needed no modification to be consistent with Special Relativity or General Relativity, although they are inconsistent with Quantu

Re: Maxwell's Equations (ME)

2024-09-29 Thread John Clark
On Sun, Sep 29, 2024 at 6:57 AM Alan Grayson wrote: *>> Yes and that's why Maxwell's Equations needed no modification to be > consistent with Special Relativity or General Relativity, although they are > inconsistent with Quantum Mechanics. Maxwell's theory predicted what the > speed of light wou

Re: Maxwell's Equations (ME)

2024-09-29 Thread Alan Grayson
On Thursday, September 26, 2024 at 8:13:50 AM UTC-6 Alan Grayson wrote: On Thursday, September 26, 2024 at 5:45:46 AM UTC-6 John Clark wrote: On Thu, Sep 26, 2024 at 6:22 AM Alan Grayson wrote: *> Maxwell's Equations are written in vector form, and vectors are tensors, and tensors are invari

Re: Maxwell's Equations (ME)

2024-09-26 Thread Alan Grayson
On Thursday, September 26, 2024 at 5:45:46 AM UTC-6 John Clark wrote: On Thu, Sep 26, 2024 at 6:22 AM Alan Grayson wrote: *> Maxwell's Equations are written in vector form, and vectors are tensors, and tensors are invariant under change of coordinates. It is known that ME are invariant under

Re: Maxwell's Equations (ME)

2024-09-26 Thread Alan Grayson
On Thursday, September 26, 2024 at 5:45:46 AM UTC-6 John Clark wrote: On Thu, Sep 26, 2024 at 6:22 AM Alan Grayson wrote: *> Maxwell's Equations are written in vector form, and vectors are tensors, and tensors are invariant under change of coordinates. It is known that ME are invariant under t

Re: Maxwell's Equations (ME)

2024-09-26 Thread John Clark
On Thu, Sep 26, 2024 at 6:22 AM Alan Grayson wrote: *> Maxwell's Equations are written in vector form, and vectors are tensors, > and tensors are invariant under change of coordinates. It is known that ME > are invariant under the Lorentz transformation, and predict that EM waves > travel at the

Maxwell's Equations (ME)

2024-09-26 Thread Alan Grayson
Maxwell's Equations are written in vector form, and vectors are tensors, and tensors are invariant under change of coordinates. It is known that ME are invariant under the Lorentz transformation, and predict that EM waves travel at the velocity of light regardless of the coordinate system. So,