Re: Positive AI

2018-01-31 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 31 Jan 2018, at 03:14, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > > On 1/29/2018 2:41 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >>> On 29 Jan 2018, at 01:35, Brent Meeker wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On 1/28/2018 6:38 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > On 26 Jan 2018, at 02:49, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > On 1/25/2

Re: Positive AI

2018-01-30 Thread Brent Meeker
On 1/29/2018 2:41 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 29 Jan 2018, at 01:35, Brent Meeker wrote: On 1/28/2018 6:38 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 26 Jan 2018, at 02:49, Brent Meeker wrote: On 1/25/2018 4:20 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: A brain, if this is confirmed, is a consciousness filter. It make

Re: Positive AI

2018-01-29 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 29 Jan 2018, at 01:35, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > > On 1/28/2018 6:38 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >>> On 26 Jan 2018, at 02:49, Brent Meeker wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 1/25/2018 4:20 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: A brain, if this is confirmed, is a consciousness filter. It makes us less c

Re: Positive AI

2018-01-28 Thread Brent Meeker
On 1/28/2018 6:38 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 26 Jan 2018, at 02:49, Brent Meeker wrote: On 1/25/2018 4:20 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: A brain, if this is confirmed, is a consciousness filter. It makes us less conscious, and even less intelligent, but more efficacious in the terrestrial plan

Re: Positive AI

2018-01-28 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 26 Jan 2018, at 05:53, 'cdemorse...@yahoo.com' via Everything List > wrote: > > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 5:49 PM, Brent Meeker > wrote: > > On 1/25/2018 4:20 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > A br

Re: Positive AI

2018-01-28 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 26 Jan 2018, at 02:49, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > On 1/25/2018 4:20 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> A brain, if this is confirmed, is a consciousness filter. It makes us less >> conscious, and even less intelligent, but more efficacious in the >> terrestrial plane. > > But a little interfere

Re: Positive AI

2018-01-28 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 26 Jan 2018, at 01:12, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > > On 1/25/2018 4:20 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >>> So do you hold that one can be conscious without having learned anything - >>> even the lessons of evolution? >> >> I guess so. Evolution would only make the universal consciousness >> dif

Re: Positive AI

2018-01-25 Thread 'cdemorse...@yahoo.com' via Everything List
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 5:49 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: On 1/25/2018 4:20 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > A brain, if this is confirmed, is a consciousness filter. It makes us > less conscious, and even less intelligent, but more efficacious in the > terrestrial

Re: Positive AI

2018-01-25 Thread Brent Meeker
On 1/25/2018 4:20 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: A brain, if this is confirmed, is a consciousness filter. It makes us less conscious, and even less intelligent, but more efficacious in the terrestrial plane. But a little interference with it and our consciousness is drastically changed...that's h

Re: Positive AI

2018-01-25 Thread Brent Meeker
On 1/25/2018 4:20 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: So do you hold that one can be conscious without having learned anything - even the lessons of evolution? I guess so. Evolution would only make the universal consciousness differentiate on sophisticated rich path/histories. The universal conscious

Re: Positive AI

2018-01-25 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 25 Jan 2018, at 01:05, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > > On 1/24/2018 1:43 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 24 Jan 2018, at 02:28, Brent Meeker >> > wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On 1/23/2018 3:18 PM, 'cdemorse...@yahoo.com >>> ' via Ev

Re: Positive AI

2018-01-24 Thread Brent Meeker
On 1/24/2018 1:43 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 24 Jan 2018, at 02:28, Brent Meeker > wrote: On 1/23/2018 3:18 PM, 'cdemorse...@yahoo.com' via Everything List wrote: On 1/22/2018 4:58 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Sleep probably serves multi

Re: Positive AI

2018-01-24 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 24 Jan 2018, at 02:28, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > > On 1/23/2018 3:18 PM, 'cdemorse...@yahoo.com ' > via Everything List wrote: >> >>> >>> On 1/22/2018 4:58 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > Sleep probably serves multiple and also orthogonal functions in anima

Re: Positive AI

2018-01-24 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 23 Jan 2018, at 07:00, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > > On 1/22/2018 4:58 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >>> Sleep probably serves multiple and also orthogonal functions in animals. >>> I agree as well, that on some levels it is a deep mystery. >> >> It is death training, perhaps, also. > > Didn't

Re: Positive AI

2018-01-24 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 23 Jan 2018, at 06:02, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List > wrote: > > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 4:58 PM, Bruno Marchal > wrote: > >> On 19 Jan 2018, at 06:22, 'Chris de Morsella' via Eve

Re: Positive AI

2018-01-23 Thread Brent Meeker
On 1/23/2018 3:18 PM, 'cdemorse...@yahoo.com' via Everything List wrote: On 1/22/2018 4:58 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Sleep probably serves multiple and also orthogonal functions in animals. I agree as well, that on some levels it is a deep myster

Re: Positive AI

2018-01-23 Thread 'cdemorse...@yahoo.com' via Everything List
On 1/22/2018 4:58 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Sleep probably serves multiple and also orthogonal functions in animals. I agree as well, that on some levels it is a deep mystery. It is death training, perhaps, also. Didn't we just discuss a paper showing that one is

Re: Positive AI

2018-01-23 Thread Brent Meeker
On 1/22/2018 11:24 PM, 'cdemorse...@yahoo.com' via Everything List wrote: Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 10:00 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: On 1/22/2018 4:58 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Sleep

Re: Positive AI

2018-01-22 Thread 'cdemorse...@yahoo.com' via Everything List
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 10:00 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: On 1/22/2018 4:58 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Sleep probably serves multiple and also orthogonal functions in animals. I agree as well, that on some levels it is a deep mystery.

Re: Positive AI

2018-01-22 Thread Brent Meeker
On 1/22/2018 4:58 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Sleep probably serves multiple and also orthogonal functions in animals. I agree as well, that on some levels it is a deep mystery. It is death training, perhaps, also. Didn't we just discuss a paper showing that one is conscious even

Re: Positive AI

2018-01-22 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 4:58 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 19 Jan 2018, at 06:22, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote: Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 6:01 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 17 Jan 2018, at 21:12, Brent Meeke

Re: Positive AI

2018-01-22 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 19 Jan 2018, at 06:22, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List > wrote: > > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 6:01 AM, Bruno Marchal > mailto:marc...@ulb.ac.be>> wrote: > >> On 17 Jan 2018, at 21:12, B

Re: Positive AI

2018-01-18 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 6:01 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 17 Jan 2018, at 21:12, Brent Meeker wrote: On 1/17/2018 12:57 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 16 Jan 2018, at 14:29, K E N O wrote: Oh, no! As an media art student, I don

Re: Positive AI

2018-01-18 Thread 'cdemorse...@yahoo.com' via Everything List
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 12:04 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: On 1/16/2018 11:54 PM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote: Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 9:19 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: On 1/16/2018 8:55 PM,

Re: Positive AI

2018-01-18 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 17 Jan 2018, at 21:12, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > > On 1/17/2018 12:57 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 16 Jan 2018, at 14:29, K E N O >> > wrote: >>> >>> Oh, no! As an media art student, I don’t believe in strict rules oft >>> usefulness (of course!). It

Re: Positive AI

2018-01-17 Thread Brent Meeker
On 1/17/2018 12:57 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 16 Jan 2018, at 14:29, K E N O > wrote: Oh, no! As an media art student, I don’t believe in strict rules oft usefulness (of course!). It was a rather suggestive or maybe even sarcastic approach to get unusual thoug

Re: Positive AI

2018-01-17 Thread Brent Meeker
On 1/16/2018 11:54 PM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote: Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 9:19 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: On 1/16/2018 8:55 PM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wro

Re: Positive AI

2018-01-17 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 16 Jan 2018, at 14:29, K E N O wrote: > > Oh, no! As an media art student, I don’t believe in strict rules oft > usefulness (of course!). It was a rather suggestive or maybe even sarcastic > approach to get unusual thoughts from everything. > Maybe I should rephrase my question: What is t

Re: Positive AI

2018-01-16 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 9:19 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: On 1/16/2018 8:55 PM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote: --What is the craziest AI application you can think of? A machine learned pet translator perhaps... they're actually working

Re: Positive AI

2018-01-16 Thread Brent Meeker
On 1/16/2018 8:55 PM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote: --What is the craziest AI application you can think of? A machine learned pet translator perhaps... they're actually working on that app, Amazon amongst others. So, it seems the big players Google as well, are running in tha

Re: Positive AI

2018-01-16 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
--What is the craziest AI application you can think of? A machine learned pet translator perhaps... they're actually working on that app, Amazon amongst others.So, it seems the big players Google as well, are running in that race... think of the potential market of pet owners forking over their

Re: Positive AI

2018-01-16 Thread K E N O
Oh, no! As an media art student, I don’t believe in strict rules oft usefulness (of course!). It was a rather suggestive or maybe even sarcastic approach to get unusual thoughts from everything. Maybe I should rephrase my question: What is the craziest AI application you can think of? K E N O

Re: Positive AI

2018-01-15 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
the technology says more about our species and our moment in culture than AI itself. You ask for positive AI goals: - Assisting and replacing health-care professionals, making health-care cheaper for everyone and more widely available to people in poor and remote regions; - Enabling advanced prostheti

Re: Positive AI

2018-01-15 Thread Bruno Marchal
on to what can be done with AI right now: I think that the >> negativity that currently surrounds the technology says more about our >> species and our moment in culture than AI itself. You ask for positive >> AI goals: >> >> - Assisting and replacing health-care profess

Re: Positive AI

2018-01-12 Thread Telmo Menezes
don't think > anyone knows. > > Leaving that more crazy question aside, and focusing on your question > in relation to what can be done with AI right now: I think that the > negativity that currently surrounds the technology says more about our > species and our moment in cult

Re: Positive AI

2018-01-12 Thread K E N O
ology says more about our > species and our moment in culture than AI itself. You ask for positive > AI goals: > > - Assisting and replacing health-care professionals, making > health-care cheaper for everyone and more widely available to people > in poor and remote regio

Re: Positive AI

2018-01-12 Thread Telmo Menezes
that currently surrounds the technology says more about our species and our moment in culture than AI itself. You ask for positive AI goals: - Assisting and replacing health-care professionals, making health-care cheaper for everyone and more widely available to people in poor and remote regions; - Ena

Positive AI

2018-01-11 Thread Lara
power is given to algorithms (like those big data algorithms deciding what we see online), some inventions could be very dangerous (self-driving cars) and most of the time inventions could be cool, if we ignored the evil people behind them. But for my bachelor I want to create a positive AI