Re: Civilization-level quantum suicide

2017-02-28 Thread Mark Buda
Mark Buda writes: > Still busy, but things are looking up for finding the time. I'll have > to revisit what I wrote before, though, because some of it was > garbage. Nailed the red state blue state thing, though, even though I > didn't explain adequately. While I did nail it, I

Re: Civilization-level quantum suicide

2017-02-28 Thread Mark Buda
Still busy, but things are looking up for finding the time. I'll have to revisit what I wrote before, though, because some of it was garbage. Nailed the red state blue state thing, though, even though I didn't explain adequately. I always had a problem with showing my work. On Monday, July

Re: Quantum Suicide and World War 3

2013-01-12 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 11 Jan 2013, at 18:14, spudboy...@aol.com wrote: Reminds me of an old short by Larry Niven, called All the Myriad Ways, where a police detective tries to uncover why radom murder- suicides are happening, (That world is where scientists discover how to travel to different Earths) and had

Re: Quantum Suicide and World War 3

2013-01-11 Thread Spudboy100
Reminds me of an old short by Larry Niven, called All the Myriad Ways, where a police detective tries to uncover why radom murder-suicides are happening, (That world is where scientists discover how to travel to different Earths) and had discovered one, where the Cuban War was just a wet

Re: Quantum Suicide and World War 3

2013-01-11 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 10 Jan 2013, at 21:43, John Clark wrote: Perhaps the Quantum Suicide experiment has already been performed and on a global scale. After Hugh Everett developed the many Worlds interpretation in his doctoral dissertation he was disappointed at the poor reception it received and never

Re: Quantum Suicide and World War 3

2013-01-11 Thread John Mikes
Everett's daughter was right in the sense of a lithothese (double negation = positive answer) translated into * I don't want to be WITHOUT my father * The rest is interpretation. JM On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 12:14 PM, spudboy...@aol.com wrote: ** Reminds me of an old short by Larry Niven,

Quantum Suicide and World War 3

2013-01-10 Thread John Clark
Perhaps the Quantum Suicide experiment has already been performed and on a global scale. After Hugh Everett developed the many Worlds interpretation in his doctoral dissertation he was disappointed at the poor reception it received and never published anything on quantum mechanics again

Re: Quantum Suicide and World War 3

2013-01-10 Thread Alberto G. Corona
Perhaps we must worship Everett. Maybe he is with Einstein in a superdimensional throne of quarks. Aleluya. 2013/1/10 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com Perhaps the Quantum Suicide experiment has already been performed and on a global scale. After Hugh Everett developed the many Worlds

Re: Quantum Suicide and World War 3

2013-01-10 Thread meekerdb
On 1/10/2013 12:43 PM, John Clark wrote: Perhaps the Quantum Suicide experiment has already been performed and on a global scale. After Hugh Everett developed the many Worlds interpretation in his doctoral dissertation he was disappointed at the poor reception it received and never published

RE: Civilization-level quantum suicide

2010-07-19 Thread Jesse Mazer
Please, seek medical help. If you're right, you lose nothing and might convince at least the psychiatrist you talk to. If I'm right, you get cured. It can't do you any harm, but leaving what looks to me like a serious illness untreated may well do you some serious harm. Look, I've

RE: Civilization-level quantum suicide

2010-07-19 Thread Mark Buda
I agree with pretty much everything you are saying, Jesse; unfortunately, I don't have the time at the moment to respond adequately. I think it would greatly improve the signal-to-noise ratio on this list if everybody else kept quiet on this thread until you read my response to Jesse. Please

RE: Civilization-level quantum suicide

2010-07-18 Thread Jesse Mazer
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 16:10:23 -0700 Subject: RE: Civilization-level quantum suicide From: her...@acm.org To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Mark, if you're not kidding here I honestly think you may be experiencing some kind of mental disorder, perhaps a manic state (good

RE: Civilization-level quantum suicide

2010-07-18 Thread Mark Buda
Well, it's impossible to know what's going on with you based on a few email messages but it definitely sounds like it could be a manic state to me--this sort of grandiosity and boundless confidence in one's own abilities and powers is common in mania. Of course it is. But note that I'm not

Re: Civilization-level quantum suicide

2010-07-18 Thread Quentin Anciaux
Well... Did Gene Ray died the other night as you predicted ? No, then go consult. Simple as that. Regards, Quentin 2010/7/18 Mark Buda her...@acm.org Well, it's impossible to know what's going on with you based on a few email messages but it definitely sounds like it could be a manic

Re: Civilization-level quantum suicide

2010-07-18 Thread Mark Buda
Did Gene Ray died the other night as you predicted ? No, then go consult. Simple as that. I don't know whether he died or not. Google doesn't seem to know either. Since none of you seem interested in helping me (and I don't blame you, but it was worth a shot) I'm going to send him an email

Re: Civilization-level quantum suicide

2010-07-18 Thread Bruno Marchal
Jesse, Mark, On 18 Jul 2010, at 17:20, Jesse Mazer wrote: Well, it's impossible to know what's going on with you based on a few email messages but it definitely sounds like it could be a manic state to me--this sort of grandiosity and boundless confidence in one's own abilities and

Re: Civilization-level quantum suicide

2010-07-18 Thread Mark Buda
Mark, we may be wrong, but none of what you said makes very much sense for us. Some things you said may make sense, but seems to me humanly communicable only through math, fiction, art, poetry, ... and stands always very far away from any literal certainty. I know it doesn't make sense. I

Re: Civilization-level quantum suicide

2010-07-18 Thread Andrew Hickey
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 10:01 PM, Mark Buda her...@acm.org wrote: Get it? Good grief, even if the stuff I'm saying taken as a whole doesn't make sense, at least focus on one piece at a time and you will agree that I'm making perfect sense. Mark, seriously, you're not. I worked on a psychiatric

Re: Civilization-level quantum suicide

2010-07-18 Thread Mark Buda
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 10:01 PM, Mark Buda her...@acm.org wrote: Get it? Good grief, even if the stuff I'm saying taken as a whole doesn't make sense, at least focus on one piece at a time and you will agree that I'm making perfect sense. Mark, seriously, you're not. I worked on a

Re: Civilization-level quantum suicide

2010-07-18 Thread Andrew Hickey
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 10:42 PM, Mark Buda her...@acm.org wrote: You worked on a psychiatric ward but you never understood them. If you had taken the time to interact with them, one on one, and share their lives and hopes and dreams, you would have been able to help them figure it out. That

Re: Civilization-level quantum suicide

2010-07-18 Thread Mark Buda
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 10:42 PM, Mark Buda her...@acm.org wrote: You worked on a psychiatric ward but you never understood them. If you had taken the time to interact with them, one on one, and share their lives and hopes and dreams, you would have been able to help them figure it out.

Re: Civilization-level quantum suicide

2010-07-17 Thread Mark Buda
On 16 Jul 2010, at 14:13, Mark Buda wrote: But the upshot of it is this: I have found out what happens when you commit quantum suicide. You discover that you believe a contradiction, and that even though nothing about the world has changed, you understand the universe. That seems very

RE: Civilization-level quantum suicide

2010-07-17 Thread Jesse Mazer
Why do you want to convince Richard Dawkins? You give him credit. Because I know that I know how to persuade him of the truth based on evidence *and* emotion. I can prove to him, personally, that I am God, and that I created the universe. And he will believe it. Because I can show him a

RE: Civilization-level quantum suicide

2010-07-17 Thread Mark Buda
Mark, if you're not kidding here I honestly think you may be experiencing some kind of mental disorder, perhaps a manic state (good description of these kinds of states by Oliver Sacks at http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2008/sep/25/a-summer-of-madness/?pagination=false ) or even the

Re: Civilization-level quantum suicide

2010-07-17 Thread Kevin Fischer
I'm not kidding. I understand your concern It's also statistically more likely if you're a male between 18-25... that's when these sorts of brain farts are most common. It doesn't mean you're crazy, but the most important step to understanding what you're thinking is to understand that you're

Re: Civilization-level quantum suicide

2010-07-17 Thread Mark Buda
I'm not kidding. I understand your concern It's also statistically more likely if you're a male between 18-25... Statistics govern groups. I am an individual. I am 42. As was my father when I was born. What an interesting coincidence. Not. You did post a testable prediction though -- that

Civilization-level quantum suicide

2010-07-16 Thread Mark Buda
I came across this link some time ago and found it interesting: http://www.paul-almond.com/CivilizationLevelQuantumSuicide.htm In fact, I believe it is what introduced me to the term quantum suicide. I had been googling something I had been thinking about in the shower one day and to my surprise

Re: Civilization-level quantum suicide

2010-07-16 Thread Quentin Anciaux
me to the term quantum suicide. I had been googling something I had been thinking about in the shower one day and to my surprise this guy had written a paper about it. What an amazing coincidence. My life since then has been an increasingly bizarre series of meaningful coincidences. Meaningful

Re: Civilization-level quantum suicide

2010-07-16 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 16 Jul 2010, at 14:13, Mark Buda wrote: I came across this link some time ago and found it interesting: http://www.paul-almond.com/CivilizationLevelQuantumSuicide.htm In fact, I believe it is what introduced me to the term quantum suicide. I had been googling something I had been thinking

SV: Civilization-level quantum suicide

2010-07-16 Thread Lennart Nilsson
: Re: Civilization-level quantum suicide On 16 Jul 2010, at 14:13, Mark Buda wrote: I came across this link some time ago and found it interesting: http://www.paul-almond.com/CivilizationLevelQuantumSuicide.htm In fact, I believe it is what introduced me to the term quantum suicide. I had been

Re: SV: Civilization-level quantum suicide

2010-07-16 Thread Mark Buda
have all the answers and none of the questions, because I no longer have free will. Or I'm the only one left with free will, take your pick. Or ignore me. But the problem is not going away. Something odd is going on. Would you like to know what I think a civilization-level quantum suicide event might

Quantum suicide and immortality

2009-05-10 Thread ZeroSum
The Wiki article Quantum suicide and immortality (http:// en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_suicide_and_immortality) states: Also, the philosopher David Lewis, in How Many Lives Has Schrödinger's Cat?, remarked that in the vast majority of the worlds in which an immortal observer might find himself

Re: Quantum suicide and immortality

2009-05-10 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
2009/5/10 ZeroSum ing...@usa.net: David Lewis' statement cuts to the core of the nature of consciousness. If each conscious observer on planet Earth (and let's assume the laws of physics don't limit consciousness to humans but includes any sentient animal life form) exists in Many Worlds

Re: Quantum suicide and immortality

2009-05-10 Thread Brent Meeker
ZeroSum wrote: The Wiki article Quantum suicide and immortality (http:// en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_suicide_and_immortality) states: Also, the philosopher David Lewis, in How Many Lives Has Schrödinger's Cat?, remarked that in the vast majority of the worlds in which an immortal

Quantum Suicide as a video game

2008-08-12 Thread Ron Hale-Evans
This is extremely gratifying. Readers of Greg Egan's novel Quarantine would also like this. http://msm.grumpybumpers.com/?p=20 -- Ron Hale-Evans ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... http://ron.ludism.org/ ... (206) 201-1768 Mind Performance Hacks book: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/mindperfhks/

Botanical Entheogenic Mechanism (Was: Re: Making money via quantum suicide)

2008-06-29 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 27 Jun 2008, at 20:52, Tom Caylor wrote: On Jun 8, 2:43 pm, Bruno Marchal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 06 Jun 2008, at 23:35, Tom Caylor wrote: ... One consistent configuration is that we are all immortal and that part of this immortal being is something that is outside of what we

Re: Making money via quantum suicide

2008-06-27 Thread Bruno Marchal
Hi jal278, Le 23-juin-08, à 19:08, jal278 a écrit : First time post. You are welcome. Would it be possible to use the principles of QS as an oracle? E.g. buy a lotto ticket before taking a flight, with the intention that if you win some improbable amount in the lotto you do not take

Re: Making money via quantum suicide

2008-06-27 Thread Brent Meeker
Bruno Marchal wrote: Hi jal278, ... Similarly, assuming that QI is true, the survival probabilities at the end cases (where you are 150 yrs old) would get to be incredibly small, such that perhaps healthy decisions made when you are younger (i.e. never smoke, keep fit)

Re: Making money via quantum suicide

2008-06-27 Thread Tom Caylor
On Jun 8, 2:43 pm, Bruno Marchal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 06 Jun 2008, at 23:35, Tom Caylor wrote: ... One consistent configuration is that we are all immortal and that part of this immortal being is something that is outside of what we can observe scientifically, including other

Re: Making money via quantum suicide

2008-06-27 Thread Tom Caylor
Welcome. I see that you use the word intention several times. It seems that this is the word/notion on which your tries pivot, and I think this is also the downfall. I think that intention is a very good part of reality, but it can find its meaning only when coupled with the humility that we

Re: Making money via quantum suicide

2008-06-27 Thread Günther Greindl
Tom, which requires repeatability. Love (the mysterious force of good relationship between persons) does not work within a scientific you should have a look at the rich literature on love, which is the subject of (ever growing) scientific study. Here a small beginning:

Re: Making money via quantum suicide

2008-06-23 Thread jal278
First time post. Would it be possible to use the principles of QS as an oracle? E.g. buy a lotto ticket before taking a flight, with the intention that if you win some improbable amount in the lotto you do not take the flight. Perhaps this flight was extremely likely to crash and your odds of

Re: Making money via quantum suicide

2008-06-08 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 06 Jun 2008, at 23:35, Tom Caylor wrote: I guess I could see that it could be consistent that from each of our perspectives eventually we are the only one left in the mulitverse, if we were all cut-off from each other, essentially in separate universes or histories. But with all of

Re: Making money via quantum suicide

2008-06-07 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
2008/6/7 Brent Meeker [EMAIL PROTECTED]: You don't. You just outlive everyone else in the (very, very tiny, and shrinking) hyperplane of Hilbert space where quantum randomness has contrived to save you from death (but not from disability :-( ). On other very tiny, shrinking hyperplanes

Re: Making money via quantum suicide

2008-06-06 Thread Tom Caylor
immortal, but today I am mortal. The difficulty   is more in the fusion/amnesia than in the fission ... Bruno PS Brent is right. Some annuity contract can be used for making money   via comp or quantum suicide, as far as the company handling that   annuity is robust enough. (Always making

Re: Making money via quantum suicide

2008-06-06 Thread Tom Caylor
in the fusion/amnesia than in the fission ... Bruno PS Brent is right. Some annuity contract can be used for making money   via comp or quantum suicide, as far as the company handling that   annuity is robust enough. (Always making all the default assumptions:   obviously (?) science per se

Re: Making money via quantum suicide

2008-06-06 Thread Brent Meeker
make sense, apparently, of a sentence like that: yesterday I have been immortal, but today I am mortal. The difficulty is more in the fusion/amnesia than in the fission ... Bruno PS Brent is right. Some annuity contract can be used for making money via comp or quantum suicide, as far

Re: Making money via quantum suicide

2008-06-06 Thread Brent Meeker
... Bruno PS Brent is right. Some annuity contract can be used for making money via comp or quantum suicide, as far as the company handling that annuity is robust enough. (Always making all the default assumptions: obviously (?) science per se is totally agnostic about

Making money via quantum suicide

2008-06-05 Thread Lawrence
Forgive me if the following comment is ill-thought through as this is my first post to the group. It appears to me that, assuming QS is true, I should bet some reasonably substantial amount of cash at the local bookies that I will live to 110 or 120 years of age. Of course I will be around to

Re: Making money via quantum suicide

2008-06-05 Thread Bruno Marchal
Hi Lawrence, welcome, You have to be more precise on the betting procedure. You will win the bet against people who, from your personal point of view, will most probably be dead at the time. How do you intent to recover the money? Bruno On 05 Jun 2008, at 15:28, Lawrence wrote: Forgive

Re: Making money via quantum suicide

2008-06-05 Thread Tom Caylor
Why is it that from my first person perspective other people die? Perhaps a different question: Why is it that from your first person perspective other people die? Tom On Jun 5, 8:27 am, Bruno Marchal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Lawrence, welcome, You have to be more precise on the betting

Re: Quantum Immortality (was Re: Quantum Suicide)

2005-11-01 Thread Bruno Marchal
Le 28-oct.-05, à 17:54, GottferDamnt a écrit (for-list): Hi, I would like talk about this quote from an old topic: This is a rather shocking conclusion. We are conscious here and now because our (computational state) belongs to aleph_1 (or 2^aleph_0 for those who doesn't want to rely on

Re: Quantum Immortality (was Re: Quantum Suicide)

2005-11-01 Thread daddycaylor
, 1 Nov 2005 13:27:27 +0100 Subject: Re: Quantum Immortality (was Re: Quantum Suicide) Le 28-oct.-05, à 17:54, GottferDamnt a écrit (for-list):    Hi,    I would like talk about this quote from an old topic:      This is a rather shocking conclusion. We are conscious here and  now because our

Re: Quantum Immortality (was Re: Quantum Suicide)

2005-11-01 Thread daddycaylor
I should have said a countable set of countable histories. Tom -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: everything-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 15:05:39 -0500 Subject: Re: Quantum Immortality (was Re: Quantum Suicide) Bruno,    So why

Re: Quantum Suicide Bombing

2005-07-13 Thread Bruno Marchal
Le 09-juil.-05, à 16:09, David Deutsch a écrit : On 8 Jul 2005, at 11:25am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now - what should be done about the presentation of this concep of Quantum Suicide Bombing? By the way: The discussion is *not* about the validity of many worlds

Re: Quantum Suicide Bombing

2005-07-13 Thread Bruno Marchal
Le 13-juil.-05, à 01:01, Charles Goodwin a écrit : From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Fabric-of- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lee Corbin I don't know what you even *mean* by QS does not reduce the number of worlds you experience, unless you mean that nothing that I can do affects the number

Re: Quantum Suicide without suicide

2003-01-10 Thread Tim May
. For example, flying on business.) It's a reason some people take on very risky jobs. They figure if they succeed, they'll be rich. If they fail, they'll be dead and won't care. (Certainly not many people think this way, but some do. But betting on yourself is not quantum suicide in any way I can

Re: Quantum Suicide without suicide

2003-01-10 Thread George Levy
This is a reply to Eric Hawthorne and Tim May. Eric Hawthorne wrote: George Levy wrote: Conclusions: All this involves really basic probability theory. The first person perspective probability is identical to the probability conditional to the person staying alive. But that

Re: Quantum suicide without suicide

2003-01-10 Thread George Levy
Hi Brent. Brent Meeker wrote: I don't understand the point of this modification. The idea of QS was to arrange that in all possible worlds in which I exist, I'm rich. If it's just a matter of being rich in a few and not rich in the rest, I don't need any QS. Yes but you only

Re: Quantum suicide without suicide

2003-01-09 Thread Bruno Marchal
Tim May wrote On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 10:58 AM, George Levy wrote: In the original verision of Quantum Suicide (QS), as understood in this list, the experimenter sets up a suicide machine that kills him if the world does not conform to his wishes. Hence, in the branching many

Re: Quantum suicide without suicide

2003-01-09 Thread George Levy
of a clock in which the clock travels one mile per hour. To get significant results you must travel a significant fraction of the speed of light. QS decisions are significantly different from "classical" decisions when the life of the experimenter is at stake, (or as I pointed out earlier the

Re: Quantum suicide without suicide

2003-01-09 Thread Tim May
From: Tim May [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu Jan 9, 2003 1:22:32 PM US/Pacific To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Quantum suicide without suicide On Thursday, January 9, 2003, at 12:32 PM, George Levy wrote: As you can see, suicide is not necessary. One could be on death row - in other words

Quantum suicide without suicide

2003-01-08 Thread George Levy
In the original verision of Quantum Suicide (QS), as understood in this list, the experimenter sets up a suicide machine that kills him if the world does not conform to his wishes. Hence, in the branching many-worlds, his consciousness is erased in those worlds, and remains intact

Re: Quantum suicide without suicide

2003-01-08 Thread Tim May
On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 10:58 AM, George Levy wrote: In the original verision of Quantum Suicide (QS), as understood in this list, the experimenter sets up a suicide machine that kills him if the world does not conform to his wishes. Hence, in the branching many-worlds, his

(quantum) suicide

2003-01-05 Thread Saibal Mitra
Hall Finney: ''You might want to clarify what you mean by quantum suicide working. What do you hope to accomplish via QS? What effect will it have on your subjective perceptions?'' By ''quantum suicide working'' I mean that you could make the probability of winning the lottery as close to 100

Re: Bruno's teleportation device is a quantum suicide device

2002-06-21 Thread Bruno Marchal
At 16:01 -0700 20/06/2002, Hal Finney wrote: It's not clear that it means anything to say that the person could have died. Here is why I say that. I think we agree that the person in the mechanical brain who leaves the operation will not be able to tell whether it was a success or not. He will

Re: Why (quantum) suicide doesn't work

2002-01-01 Thread Russell Standish
escaping death becomes extremely less likely), then forgetting style discontinuous transitions might dominate. I can believe that this argument will prevent us from entering Harry Potter type universes through Quantum Suicide, but one will probably still be able to make a buck out of a suitably

Re: (Quantum) suicide not necessary?

2001-03-10 Thread James Higgo
] To: James Higgo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 9:14 PM Subject: Re: (Quantum) suicide not necessary? There is no 'you'. 'You' don't 'travel'. There are just different observer moments, some including 'I am Micky and I'm, sick

Re: (Quantum) suicide not necessary?

2001-03-05 Thread James Higgo
Meeker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: James Higgo [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Michael Rosefield [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Saibal Mitra [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2001 9:33 PM Subject: Re: (Quantum) suicide not necessary? On 03-Mar-01, James Higgo wrote: Your comment, 'an explanation

Re: (Quantum) suicide not necessary?

2001-03-05 Thread rwas rwas
I think I understand your concern. As to how to form a complete theory, I find that kind of thinking outside my form of expression. Finding an all encompassing theory for consciousness I believe will be impossible. I think all we can do is frame the understanding in terms of what we are trying

Re: (Quantum) suicide not necessary?

2001-03-05 Thread rwas rwas
--- rwas rwas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: versions of many-worlds theories, one might consider a different approach. By deleting certain sectors of one's memory one should be able to travel to different branches of the multiverse. Suppose you are diagnosed with

Re: (Quantum) suicide not necessary?

2001-03-04 Thread James Higgo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: James Higgo [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Michael Rosefield [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Saibal Mitra [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 5:40 PM Subject: Re: (Quantum) suicide not necessary? I checked out your website, but it still seems to me there is a big gap

Re: (Quantum) suicide not necessary?

2001-03-03 Thread Brent Meeker
I checked out your website, but it still seems to me there is a big gap between saying all universes with physics that are consistent with the WAP are experienced and saying that all thoughts (observer moments) exists. In the later case there is no explanation for the seeming existence of

Re: (Quantum) suicide not necessary?

2001-03-03 Thread Saibal Mitra
Bruno wrote: Saibal Mitra wrote: Instead of the previously discussed suicide experiments to test various versions of many-worlds theories, one might consider a different approach. By deleting certain sectors of one's memory one should be able to travel to different branches of the

Re: (Quantum) suicide not necessary?

2001-03-03 Thread Michael Rosefield
From: James Higgo Before I was blind but now I see. I was the one who came up with the expression, 'Quantum Theory of Immortality', and I now see that it's false - and all this stuff in this thread is based on the same mistake. See www.higgo.com/qti , a site dedicated to the

Re: (Quantum) suicide not necessary?

2001-03-03 Thread James Higgo
:34 PM Subject: Re: (Quantum) suicide not necessary? From: James Higgo Before I was blind but now I see. I was the one who came up with the expression, 'Quantum Theory of Immortality', and I now see that it's false - and all this stuff in this thread

Re: (Quantum) suicide not necessary?

2001-03-03 Thread James Higgo
- From: Michael Rosefield To: James Higgo ; Saibal Mitra ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 3:34 PM Subject: Re: (Quantum) suicide not necessary? From: James Higgo Before I was blind but now I see. I was the one who came up

Re: (Quantum) suicide not necessary?

2001-03-03 Thread James Higgo
why Jacques gets so irritated by this type of thinking, but it's nice to see him back on the list now then. - Original Message - From: Michael Rosefield To: Saibal Mitra ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 3:30 PM Subject: Re: (Quantum) suicide

Re: (Quantum) suicide not necessary?

2001-02-27 Thread Michael Rosefield
*Phew!*; this afternoon I finally got round to reading the 190-odd messages I have received from this list From: Saibal Mitra Instead of the previously discussed suicide experiments to test variousversions of many-worlds theories, one might consider a different approach.

Re: (Quantum) suicide not necessary?

2001-02-21 Thread Marchal
Saibal Mitra wrote: Instead of the previously discussed suicide experiments to test various versions of many-worlds theories, one might consider a different approach. By deleting certain sectors of one's memory one should be able to travel to different branches of the multiverse. Suppose you

(Quantum) suicide not necessary?

2001-02-18 Thread Saibal Mitra
Instead of the previously discussed suicide experiments to test variousversions of many-worlds theories, one might consider a different approach. By deleting certain sectors of one's memory one should be able to travelto different branches of the multiverse. Suppose you are diagnosed with

Re: Quantum Suicide

2000-12-14 Thread Marchal
Bob Hearn wrote (from [EMAIL PROTECTED] question): I asked Tegmark what he thought about the idea that one could view life as a quantum suicide experiment, in the sense that if it is at all possible that I will be alive in, say, 100 years, then I will experience this - by definition, I won't

Re: Quantum suicide

1999-03-26 Thread Jacques M Mallah
Hello. Max, you haven't responded to the arguments I've made against it. (e.g. http://www.escribe.com/science/theory/msg00287.html, http://www.escribe.com/science/theory/msg00306.html, http://www.escribe.com/science/theory/msg00313.html,

Jacques, champion of quantum suicide

1999-01-26 Thread Higgo James
that one'. You are all of them, and as many sets you could call 'you' get 'shut down' because of a vacuum collapse or supernova or quantum suicide experiemnt, they become no longer you, and irrelevant to you. This is not an everyday concept, and I am not surprised you have difficulty

Re: quantum suicide = deadly dumb

1998-12-10 Thread Gilles HENRI
On Wed, Dec 09, 1998 at 08:12:38PM -0500, Jacques M. Mallah wrote: On the contrary, it's the same. That is easy to prove: suppose the MWI was false but assume the universe is spacially infinite, so there are other people like you in distant galaxies. Clearly they have no bearing on

Re: quantum suicide = deadly dumb

1998-12-10 Thread Wei Dai
On Thu, Dec 10, 1998 at 03:20:58PM +0100, Gilles HENRI wrote: maybe the decision theory itself (I must confess that my only knowledge of it comes from what Wei writes here) is somewhat metaphysical because it assumes that an individual can actually change the evolution of the world (acts upon

RE: quantum suicide = a jolly good idea

1998-12-07 Thread Higgo James
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: quantum suicide = deadly dumb Higgo James wrote: Jaques, try reading what Max wrote, then post a better reply. Higgo, try reading what I wrote, then post a better reply. Jacques Mallah wrote: Max Tegmark wrote: However, I think there's