Re: 1P/3P CONFUSION again and again

2015-08-31 Thread John Clark
On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 4:30 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > ​>>​ >> Bruno Marcha >> ​l >> was alluding on how you predict your subjective experience when you do an >> experience in physics >> ​ ​ >> where "you" has been duplicated and thus making that personal pronoun >> ambiguous. > > > ​>​ > I have

Re: 1P/3P CONFUSION again and again

2015-09-02 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 31 Aug 2015, at 23:58, John Clark wrote: On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 4:30 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: ​>>​Bruno Marcha​l was alluding on how you predict your subjective experience when you do an experience in physics​ ​ where "you" has been duplicated and thus making that personal pronoun

RE: 1P/3P CONFUSION again and again

2015-09-02 Thread chris peck
but it doesn't work well tracking duplicates across space at a particular time. So JC-0 can't track to JC-1. So, for example whilst it is true that JC-0-'you' is not JC-1-'you', both are JC-H-'you'. In otherwords, because JC-0 and JC-1's experiences are

Re: 1P/3P CONFUSION again and again

2015-09-03 Thread Bruno Marchal
ion, or a modal notion, in which the Leibniz identity principle (a = b and a = c ->. b = c) is not valid. No problem, this is illustrated also in the math part, and indeed it explains why we can't avoid modal logic. But this does not refute the FPI, if that is what you were trying t

Re: 1P/3P CONFUSION again and again

2015-09-03 Thread John Clark
Bruno Marchal wrote: > ​> ​ > Just one remark: we cannot make a piece of matter wet in arithmetic > ​I know, but why not? If arithmetic is more fundamental than physics as you say then we should be able to write a program that would get the computer wet, and yet we can't and your theory can not

Re: 1P/3P CONFUSION again and again

2015-09-04 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 03 Sep 2015, at 18:56, John Clark wrote: Bruno Marchal wrote: ​> ​Just one remark: we cannot make a piece of matter wet in arithmetic ​I know, but why not? If arithmetic is more fundamental than physics as you say then we should be able to write a program that would get the compute

Re: 1P/3P CONFUSION again and again

2015-09-04 Thread John Clark
On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 10:53 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: ​ >> ​>> ​ >> If arithmetic is more fundamental than physics as you say then we should >> be able to write a program that would get the computer wet, and yet we >> can't and your theory can not give an adequate explanation of why not. > > ​

Re: 1P/3P CONFUSION again and again

2015-09-06 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 04 Sep 2015, at 19:53, John Clark wrote: On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 10:53 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: ​​>> ​If arithmetic is more fundamental than physics as you say then we should be able to write a program that would get the computer wet, and yet we can't and your theory can not give an

Re: 1P/3P CONFUSION again and again

2015-09-07 Thread John Clark
On Sun, Sep 6, 2015 Bruno Marchal wrote: > ​> ​ > that can be emulated in arithmetic as all computations can be emulated > ​Bullshit.​ > ​> >> ​>>​ >> ​ >> The fact that computations exist in arithmetic is a trivial theorem. >> > > ​ > ​>> ​ > You keep saying that, and yet in spite of the fac

Re: 1P/3P CONFUSION again and again

2015-09-08 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 07 Sep 2015, at 19:11, John Clark wrote: On Sun, Sep 6, 2015 Bruno Marchal wrote: ​> ​that can be emulated in arithmetic as all computations can be emulated ​Bullshit.​ No, it is a theorem in computer science. Keep in mind that computer (universal machine), computations, emulation

Re: 1P/3P CONFUSION again and again

2015-09-10 Thread John Clark
On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 Bruno Marchal wrote: ​> ​ > I will answer your next post if it contains something new. ​Then I guess it contained something new.​ > ​> >> ​>>​ >> ​ >> that can be emulated in arithmetic as all computations can be emulated >> > > ​ > ​>> ​ > Bullshit.​ > > ​> ​ > No, it is a

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