Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Is there an aether ?

2013-01-23 Thread Craig Weinberg
> > > - Receiving the following content - > *From:* Craig Weinberg > *Receiver:* everything-list > *Time:* 2013-01-22, 15:38:50 > *Subject:* Re: Re: Re: Re: Is there an aether ? > > > > On Tuesday, January 22, 2013 7:22:06 AM UTC-5, rclough wrote:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Is there an aether ?

2013-01-23 Thread Roger Clough
g Weinberg Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-01-22, 15:38:50 Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Is there an aether ? On Tuesday, January 22, 2013 7:22:06 AM UTC-5, rclough wrote: Hi Craig Weinberg If you knew more about the history of philsophy, you'd know that Berkeley finally had to admit that the

Re: Re: Re: Re: Is there an aether ?

2013-01-22 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Tuesday, January 22, 2013 4:20:58 PM UTC-5, yanniru wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Craig Weinberg > > > wrote: > > > > > > On Tuesday, January 22, 2013 3:49:09 PM UTC-5, yanniru wrote: > >> > >> On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 3:38 PM, Craig Weinberg > >> wrote: > >> > That does

Re: Re: Re: Re: Is there an aether ?

2013-01-22 Thread John Mikes
Richard: and what is - NOT - an illusion? are you? or me? we have no way to ascertain existence and qualia, we just THINK. Our science is based on SOME info we don't know exactly, not even if it is like we think it is. We calculate in our human logic (stupidity would be more accurate) and then c

Re: Re: Re: Re: Is there an aether ?

2013-01-22 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: > > > On Tuesday, January 22, 2013 3:49:09 PM UTC-5, yanniru wrote: >> >> On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 3:38 PM, Craig Weinberg >> wrote: >> > That doesn't have anything to do with your straw man of my position. I >> > have >> > never once said tha

Re: Re: Re: Re: Is there an aether ?

2013-01-22 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Tuesday, January 22, 2013 3:49:09 PM UTC-5, yanniru wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 3:38 PM, Craig Weinberg > > > wrote: > > That doesn't have anything to do with your straw man of my position. I > have > > never once said that existence is contingent upon human consciousness. I > > s

Re: Re: Re: Re: Is there an aether ?

2013-01-22 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 3:38 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: > That doesn't have anything to do with your straw man of my position. I have > never once said that existence is contingent upon human consciousness. I > state again and again that it is experience itself - the capacity for > sensory-motor pa

Re: Re: Re: Re: Is there an aether ?

2013-01-22 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Tuesday, January 22, 2013 7:22:06 AM UTC-5, rclough wrote: > > Hi Craig Weinberg > > If you knew more about the history of philsophy, > you'd know that Berkeley finally had to admit that the world out > there is real prior to our individual observation because > it is all observed by God.

Re: Re: Re: Re: Is there an aether ?

2013-01-22 Thread Roger Clough
Hi Craig Weinberg If you knew more about the history of philsophy, you'd know that Berkeley finally had to admit that the world out there is real prior to our individual observation because it is all observed by God. - Receiving the following content - From: Craig Weinberg Receiver: e