On Tuesday, January 22, 2013 4:20:58 PM UTC-5, yanniru wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Craig Weinberg 
> <whats...@gmail.com<javascript:>> 
> wrote: 
> > 
> > 
> > On Tuesday, January 22, 2013 3:49:09 PM UTC-5, yanniru wrote: 
> >> 
> >> On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 3:38 PM, Craig Weinberg <whats...@gmail.com> 
> >> wrote: 
> >> > That doesn't have anything to do with your straw man of my position. 
> I 
> >> > have 
> >> > never once said that existence is contingent upon human 
> consciousness. I 
> >> > state again and again that it is experience itself - the capacity for 
> >> > sensory-motor participation which is the progenitor of all possible 
> >> > forms of 
> >> > 'existence'. Something 'being' means that there is an experience, 
> >> > otherwise 
> >> > there is no possibility of anything ever coming into being. 
> >> 
> >> However, in a static Block MWI Universe there is no need for time or 
> >> consciousness or experience. 
> > 
> > 
> > Then in what sense does it 'exist'? 
>
> It must be an illusion. Either that or MWI is an illusion. Doesn't 
> Bruno say that matter is a dream or illusion? Richard 
>

I think MWI and block universe aren't even illusions, they are just ideas 
to defend mechanism against the fact that reality is only partially 
mechanistic.
 

>
> > 
> >> 
> >> That seems to be Bruno's multiverse. 
> >> Although I wonder if his 1p perspective is equivalent to your 
> >> motor-sensory experience in order to make time,& consciousness 
> >> necessary? 
> >> Richard 
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