On Tuesday, January 22, 2013 4:20:58 PM UTC-5, yanniru wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Craig Weinberg > <whats...@gmail.com<javascript:>> > wrote: > > > > > > On Tuesday, January 22, 2013 3:49:09 PM UTC-5, yanniru wrote: > >> > >> On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 3:38 PM, Craig Weinberg <whats...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > That doesn't have anything to do with your straw man of my position. > I > >> > have > >> > never once said that existence is contingent upon human > consciousness. I > >> > state again and again that it is experience itself - the capacity for > >> > sensory-motor participation which is the progenitor of all possible > >> > forms of > >> > 'existence'. Something 'being' means that there is an experience, > >> > otherwise > >> > there is no possibility of anything ever coming into being. > >> > >> However, in a static Block MWI Universe there is no need for time or > >> consciousness or experience. > > > > > > Then in what sense does it 'exist'? > > It must be an illusion. Either that or MWI is an illusion. Doesn't > Bruno say that matter is a dream or illusion? Richard >
I think MWI and block universe aren't even illusions, they are just ideas to defend mechanism against the fact that reality is only partially mechanistic. > > > > >> > >> That seems to be Bruno's multiverse. > >> Although I wonder if his 1p perspective is equivalent to your > >> motor-sensory experience in order to make time,& consciousness > >> necessary? > >> Richard > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > "Everything List" group. > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/everything-list/-/REVm4C8jHA8J. > > > > To post to this group, send email to > > everyth...@googlegroups.com<javascript:>. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > everything-li...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/everything-list/-/OmwLFfn7ecsJ. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.