On 20 Feb 2013, at 06:19, socra...@bezeqint.net wrote:
On Feb 19, 3:51 pm, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
In front of the infinite? To laugh.
In front of nothingness? To cry.
In between, a bit of both.
Bruno
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Nice, thanks.
By the way, your photos 'par Lydia
On 19 Feb 2013, at 07:47, socra...@bezeqint.net wrote:
On Feb 18, 5:28 pm, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
Quite wise statements indeed.
But is that not a reason to be cautious
with general statement like you did above in the Biswas quote ?
Bruno
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Oh, we are very
On Feb 19, 3:51 pm, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
In front of the infinite? To laugh.
In front of nothingness? To cry.
In between, a bit of both.
Bruno
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Nice, thanks.
By the way, your photos 'par Lydia Nash' nice too.
All the best.
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On 17 Feb 2013, at 19:44, meekerdb wrote:
On 2/17/2013 7:56 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 13 Feb 2013, at 04:29, socra...@bezeqint.net wrote:
After proving Euler's identity during a lecture, Benjamin Peirce,
a noted American 19th-century philosopher, mathematician,
and professor at Harvard
On 17 Feb 2013, at 23:54, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 2/17/2013 10:56 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Yes. Euler identity is wonderful.
It amazes me also that it makes the square of any complex number
into a (non normalized) gaussian:
(e^ix)2 = e^(-x2)
I love also Euler even deeper identity
On 18 Feb 2013, at 06:39, socra...@bezeqint.net wrote:
Klein Lachièze-Rey,
THE QUEST FOR UNITY – The Adventure of Physics.
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Mathematics is an indispensable and powerful tool where it has been
demonstrated that it applies to a real world experience. However,
it is inappropriate and, as
On Feb 18, 12:19 pm, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
Socratus, are you able to doubt that physics is the fundamental science?
Bruno
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In Physics we trust.
/ Tarun Biswas /
http://www.engr.newpaltz.edu/~biswast/
Of course, it is correct, because only Physics can
On 18 Feb 2013, at 14:35, socra...@bezeqint.net wrote:
On Feb 18, 12:19 pm, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
Socratus, are you able to doubt that physics is the fundamental
science?
Bruno
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In Physics we trust.
/ Tarun Biswas /
http://www.engr.newpaltz.edu/~biswast/
On Feb 18, 5:28 pm, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
Quite wise statements indeed.
But is that not a reason to be cautious
with general statement like you did above in the Biswas quote ?
Bruno
==
Oh, we are very careful.
We do every thing to escape infinity and nothingness.
On 13 Feb 2013, at 04:29, socra...@bezeqint.net wrote:
After proving Euler's identity during a lecture, Benjamin Peirce,
a noted American 19th-century philosopher, mathematician,
and professor at Harvard University, stated that
it is absolutely paradoxical; we cannot understand it,
and we
On 2/17/2013 7:56 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 13 Feb 2013, at 04:29, socra...@bezeqint.net wrote:
After proving Euler's identity during a lecture, Benjamin Peirce,
a noted American 19th-century philosopher, mathematician,
and professor at Harvard University, stated that
it is absolutely
On 2/17/2013 10:56 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Yes. Euler identity is wonderful.
It amazes me also that it makes the square of any complex number into
a (non normalized) gaussian:
(e^ix)^2 = e^(-x^2)
I love also Euler even deeper identity relating the square of the
integers and the prime
Klein Lachièze-Rey,
THE QUEST FOR UNITY – The Adventure of Physics.
=.
Mathematics is an indispensable and powerful tool where it has been
demonstrated that it applies to a real world experience. However,
it is inappropriate and, as Dingle points out, potentially
dangerous,
to give
Feynman about infinities and renormalization
==.
So we really do not know exactly what it is that we are
assuming that gives us the difficulty producing infinities.
A nice problem !
However, it turns out that it is possible to sweep the infinities
under the rug , by a certain crude skill , and
socratus
Schrodinger's cat ( as a quantum particle) is inseparable from
The law of conservation and transformation energy/mass
and this unity shows, how QT is right, saying that
there is a life after death.
Robittybob1
Do you really believe that Socrates?
I find you too obscure to
Comment:
according to (a)+(b),
when the cat mass change in cat energy,
his image change,
the cat is already in life,
so there is life after death
/ laurent.damois /
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On Feb 15, 12:28 pm, socra...@bezeqint.net socra...@bezeqint.net
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Schrodinger's cat
and “ The law of
On Feb 12, 8:41 am, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 2/11/2013 10:15 PM, socra...@bezeqint.net wrote:
' global conservation of energy can't even be defined for
the universe '
Brent
It means that global conservation of energy is infinite .
No, it means it's undefined - there's
On 11 Feb 2013, at 20:02, meekerdb wrote:
On 2/11/2013 8:08 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 10 Feb 2013, at 21:30, meekerdb wrote:
On 2/10/2013 9:33 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 10 Feb 2013, at 11:13, socra...@bezeqint.net wrote:
Why? And why do you think science has made no progress since
Euler Identity within a new quantum theory.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1v=_XZGOGvuBlIfeature=endscreen
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On Feb 12, 7:35 am, socra...@bezeqint.net socra...@bezeqint.net
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How to understand Vacuum: T=0K ?
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Physics (classical + quantum) lives under shadow of Vacuum.
I
After proving Euler's identity during a lecture, Benjamin Peirce,
a noted American 19th-century philosopher, mathematician,
and professor at Harvard University, stated that
it is absolutely paradoxical; we cannot understand it,
and we don't know what it means, but we have proved it,
and
I wrote that Planck gave answer to the questions:
How to understand Alice's Quantumland ?
How to describe the Universe as it really is ?
Does somebody disagree with Planck ?
=
On Feb 10, 7:46 am, socra...@bezeqint.net socra...@bezeqint.net
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How to describe the Universe as it really is ?
John,
On 10 Feb 2013, at 21:14, John Mikes wrote:
Bruno,
you write mystique.
First you mention THE REAL UNIVERSE (who said ther IS one?)
In the context (you might quote it, btw), by the real universe I
meant what remains real when we grasp that there is no assumed, or
primary, physical
On 10 Feb 2013, at 21:30, meekerdb wrote:
On 2/10/2013 9:33 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 10 Feb 2013, at 11:13, socra...@bezeqint.net wrote:
Why? And why do you think science has made no progress since 1947?
Brent-
.
Science made great technological ( !) progress since 1947,
On 11 Feb 2013, at 11:51, socra...@bezeqint.net wrote:
I wrote that Planck gave answer to the questions:
How to understand Alice's Quantumland ?
How to describe the Universe as it really is ?
If comp is true, there is no Physical Universe, only a physical
reality, which belongs to the
On 2/11/2013 2:51 AM, socra...@bezeqint.net wrote:
I wrote that Planck gave answer to the questions:
How to understand Alice's Quantumland ?
How to describe the Universe as it really is ?
Does somebody disagree with Planck ?
Well for one thing it appears that global conservation of energy
On 2/11/2013 8:08 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 10 Feb 2013, at 21:30, meekerdb wrote:
On 2/10/2013 9:33 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 10 Feb 2013, at 11:13, socra...@bezeqint.net wrote:
Why? And why do you think science has made no progress since 1947?
Brent-
.
Science made
' global conservation of energy can't even be defined for
the universe '
Brent
It means that global conservation of energy is infinite .
And this infinite energy belong to the vacuum because that
more than 90% of mass ( dark mass/energy ) is hidden in the vacuum
How to understand vacuum's
How to understand Vacuum: T=0K ?
==.
Physics (classical + quantum) lives under shadow of Vacuum.
I want throw light on this Vacuum.
Three theories explain the Vacuum T=0K :
a) theory of ideal gas because its temperature is T=0K,
b) QED theory because this theory explain interaction
photon /
On 2/11/2013 10:15 PM, socra...@bezeqint.net wrote:
' global conservation of energy can't even be defined for
the universe '
Brent
It means that global conservation of energy is infinite .
No, it means it's undefined - there's no unique way to add up the energy from different
parts of a
Why? And why do you think science has made no progress since 1947?
Brent-
.
Science made great technological ( !) progress since 1947,
but not ' philosophical progress ' (!).
We still haven't answers to the questiohs:
What is the negative 4D Minkowski continuum ?,
What is the quantum
On 10 Feb 2013, at 07:46, socra...@bezeqint.net wrote:
How to describe the Universe as it really is ?
You should always be clear if you talk about the physical universe
(that we can observe), and the real universe, that we are searching.
If you assume that the Universe = the physical
On 10 Feb 2013, at 11:13, socra...@bezeqint.net wrote:
Why? And why do you think science has made no progress since 1947?
Brent-
.
Science made great technological ( !) progress since 1947,
but not ' philosophical progress ' (!).
We still haven't answers to the questiohs:
What is
Bruno,
you write mystique.
First you mention THE REAL UNIVERSE (who said ther IS one?)
then you line up a series of IF-s. What about IF NOT?
You seem to justify the 'truth' of arithmetics on the basis of human logic
(prime #s, 2+2=4, etc.) which may be a flimsy dependence of the Natural
Logic
On 2/10/2013 9:33 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 10 Feb 2013, at 11:13, socra...@bezeqint.net wrote:
Why? And why do you think science has made no progress since 1947?
Brent-
.
Science made great technological ( !) progress since 1947,
but not ' philosophical progress ' (!).
We
On 2/10/2013 12:14 PM, John Mikes wrote:
Bruno,
you write mystique.
First you mention THE REAL UNIVERSE (who said ther IS one?)
then you line up a series of IF-s. What about IF NOT?
You seem to justify the 'truth' of arithmetics on the basis of human logic (prime #s,
2+2=4, etc.) which may be
On 2/9/2013 10:46 PM, socra...@bezeqint.net wrote:
How to describe the Universe as it really is ?
=.
In his Scientific Autobiography Max Planck wrote :
' The outside world is something independent from man,
something absolute, and the quest for the laws which apply
to this absolute
On 07 Feb 2013, at 08:03, socra...@bezeqint.net wrote:
Does somebody know what Vacuum is ?
No, we don’t know what Vacuum is.
From below I see that you meant here the physical vacuum.
If comp is correct the physical vacuum is the statistical sum on all
(arithmetical) computations. Why
On 04 Feb 2013, at 16:22, socra...@bezeqint.net wrote:
Brain – Consciousness , Consciousness – Brain.
=.
Is consciousness a result of evolution or it is its fuel ?
#
‘ Contrary to what everyone knows it is so, it may
not be the brain that produce consciousness, but rather
consciousness that
Hi socra...@bezeqint.net
To say that nature is absurd is to say that our current
understanding of nature --materialism-- is wrong.
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Brain – Consciousness , Consciousness – Brain.
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Is consciousness a result of evolution or it is its fuel ?
#
‘ Contrary to what everyone knows it is so, it may
not be the brain that produce consciousness, but rather
consciousness that creates the appearance of the brain - . . . .’
/ Book ‘
On 2/4/2013 10:22 AM, socra...@bezeqint.net wrote:
Brain – Consciousness , Consciousness – Brain.
=.
Is consciousness a result of evolution or it is its fuel ?
#
‘ Contrary to what everyone knows it is so, it may
not be the brain that produce consciousness, but rather
consciousness that
On Monday, February 4, 2013 10:22:50 AM UTC-5, socr...@bezeqint.net wrote:
Brain – Consciousness , Consciousness – Brain.
=.
Is consciousness a result of evolution or it is its fuel ?
I think that in the final analysis, consciousness has no business being in
the brain, but the brain is
Hi socra...@bezeqint.net
Feynman was wrong. Life isn't physics,
it's intelligence or consciousness, free will.
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will, qualia, etc are all physics. How
could it really be otherwise?
Craig
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On Friday, February 1, 2013 12:26:43 PM UTC-5, rclough wrote:
Hi socr...@bezeqint.net javascript:
Feynman was wrong. Life isn't physics,
it's intelligence or consciousness, free will.
If we understand that physics is
On 30 Jan 2013, at 13:40, socra...@bezeqint.net wrote:
About Infinity. / My opinion /
How could mere man comprehend infinity?
==.
Infinity is the cause of the crisis in Physics.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinity
Why is Infinity the cause of the crisis in Physics?
Because we don’t know
About Infinity. / My opinion /
How could mere man comprehend infinity?
==.
Infinity is the cause of the crisis in Physics.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinity
Why is Infinity the cause of the crisis in Physics?
Because we don’t know what infinity is.
The concept of infinite / eternal means
Hi Stephen P. King
The subjective universe is like the tao.
Whatever is said about the tao is not the tao.
So not to worry.
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Hi socra...@bezeqint.net
God is life, consciousness and intelligence, not
a triangle with three sides.
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Quantum biology: Do weird physics effects abound in nature?
Disappearing in one place and reappearing in another.
Being in two places at once. Communicating information seemingly
faster than the speed of light.
This kind of weird behaviour is commonplace in dark, still
laboratories
studying
Biology- - Evolutionary biology - - Physics- - Biophysics -
Quantum biology - Evolutionary biophysics on quantomolecular level.
( ! ? )
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Quantum biology: Do weird physics effects abound in nature?
Disappearing in one
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 2:33 AM, socra...@bezeqint.net
socra...@bezeqint.net wrote:
.Everybody creates his God according to his own image and spirit
If triangles made a God they would give him three sides
/ Charles de Montesquieu . Persian Letters, 1721 /
#
There were people who said ‘God
The most incomprehensible thing about the world is
that it is comprehensible.
/ Albert Einstein /
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On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 2:33 AM, socra...@bezeqint.net
socra...@bezeqint.net wrote:
.Everybody creates his God
On 1/29/2013 8:49 AM, Richard Ruquist wrote:
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 2:33 AM, socra...@bezeqint.net
socra...@bezeqint.net wrote:
.Everybody creates his God according to his own image and spirit
If triangles made a God they would give him three sides
/ Charles de Montesquieu . Persian Letters,
.Everybody creates his God according to his own image and spirit
If triangles made a God they would give him three sides
/ Charles de Montesquieu . Persian Letters, 1721 /
#
There were people who said ‘God ‘ and thought about Zeus.
There are people who say ‘God ‘ and think about Holly Cow.
If
I always considered h to just be a constant of proportionality
between energy and frequency that is determined empirically.
What a quantum particle is may be metaphysical- that is, beyond
measurement and subject to belief.
For example I believe in a Quantum Mind- Physical world duality where
Something that intrigues me is that arithmetics does not seem to exist
in the primordial singularity that spawned the 14d Metaverse nor in
any singularities that that spawned 12d universes because the quantum
fields in the singularities are not discrete.
In order to get a discrete structure
But your question really is what does a physical particle look
like?
My answer is that they look like strings. But I have to admit that
strings are still concepts in the regime of metaphysics..
. . .
So string theory IS my religion.
/ Richard Ruquist /
Do you advise me to believe in your
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 12:36 PM, socra...@bezeqint.net
socra...@bezeqint.net wrote:
But your question really is what does a physical particle look
like?
My answer is that they look like strings. But I have to admit that
strings are still concepts in the regime of metaphysics..
. . .
So
Hi meekerdb
You have faith that what Mencken said is true, am I not correct ?
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Men become civilized, not in proportion
Men become civilized, not in proportion to their willingness to
believe, but in proportion to their readiness to doubt. The more
stupid the man the heavier his load of faith.
--- H. L. Mencken
On 1/20/2013 1:31 PM, socra...@bezeqint.net wrote:
I believe . . . . .you believe
your opinion
On 15 Jan 2013, at 17:20, socra...@bezeqint.net wrote:
Physics and Metaphysics.
John Polkinghorne and his book ‘ Quantum theory’.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Polkinghorne
=== .
John Polkinghorne took epigraph for his book ‘ Quantum theory’
the Feynman’s thought : ‘ I think I can
On 14 Jan 2013, at 20:39, socra...@bezeqint.net wrote:
I will try to understand situation from today fashion physical point
of view.
Good luck. I think this is wrong at the start. Provably so if brain
works like digital machine at some description level.
=.
Let us say that Plato's
Physics and Metaphysics.
John Polkinghorne and his book ‘ Quantum theory’.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Polkinghorne
=== .
John Polkinghorne took epigraph for his book ‘ Quantum theory’
the Feynman’s thought : ‘ I think I can safely say that
nobody understands quantum mechanics. ‘
Why?
On 13 Jan 2013, at 07:22, socra...@bezeqint.net wrote:
The Seven Hermetic Principles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTFCpkrM2iI
=.
1. The Universe is something Intellectual.
2. As above, so below.
3. From potential to active existence.
4. Everything in the Universe can vibrate.
5. Everything
I will try to understand situation from today fashion physical point
of view.
=.
Let us say that Plato's world of ideas is a dark mass
( because nobody knows that their are).
And Leibniz monadas and Kant's things-in- themselves are
quantum particles ( because nobody knows their physical
Hi socra...@bezeqint.net
Not exactly prove but explain:
1. means that there is an intelligence beyond the universe
2. is not true according to Leibniz. Above is perfect, below is contingent.
3. According to Leibniz, all existence is active (because alive)
4. I have linked Leibniz to
Thanks.
Is it possible to explain ' monads' of Leibniz or
Kant's ' thing-in-itself ' from physical point of view ?
Is it possible to explain the 'philosophy of Idealism '
using physical laws and formulas ?
=.
On Jan 13, 2:30 pm, Roger Cloughrclo...@verizon.net wrote:
Hi
Book ‘Dreams of a final theory’.
/ By Steven Weinberg. The Nobel Prize in Physics 1979 /
Page 66.
‘ Most scientists use quantum mechanics every day in they
working lives without needing to worry about the fundamental
problem of its interpretation.
. . .they do not worry about it. A year or so
On 1/11/2013 11:35 PM, socra...@bezeqint.net wrote:
Book ‘Dreams of a final theory’.
/ By Steven Weinberg. The Nobel Prize in Physics 1979 /
Page 66.
‘ Most scientists use quantum mechanics every day in they
working lives without needing to worry about the fundamental
problem of its
On Jan 11, 7:24 am, socra...@bezeqint.net socra...@bezeqint.net
wrote:
Nobody has seen primary matter,
but the believer in it usually attribute it a fundamental role in
our existence.
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What is a primary matter from modern scientific point of view ?
It is 'quantum virtual
On 08 Jan 2013, at 18:53, meekerdb wrote:
On 1/8/2013 6:56 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 07 Jan 2013, at 19:53, John Clark wrote:
On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote:
Theism, like atheism, is unprovable.
Why is that? You're saying that even though God is omnipotent
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 12:26 AM, socra...@bezeqint.net
socra...@bezeqint.net wrote:
In beginning was Word.
And the Word was written by the formula: T=0K.
soc,
You may be ripe to believe in string consciousness
for its ontological basis is a cubic lattice
of Calabi-Yau compact manifolds
at
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On 1/7/2013 10:47 AM, John Clark wrote:
On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 wrote:
Consider God, a word for Mind
OK, I have a mind therefore I am God.
I said it before I'll say it again, for some strange reason that is unknown to
me many
On 07 Jan 2013, at 19:53, John Clark wrote:
On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote:
Theism, like atheism, is unprovable.
Why is that? You're saying that even though God is omnipotent He is
incapable of proving His existence to us. I can prove my existence
to you
I
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On 07 Jan 2013, at 19:53, John Clark wrote:
On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 Roger Clough wrote:
Theism, like atheism, is unprovable.
Why is that? You're
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
there is no reason to identify God with the God-father of Christian
theory.
Conservative Christianity is deplorable in a great number of ways but it is
superior to liberal theology in one important regard, it states that it
might be a
On 1/8/2013 6:56 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 07 Jan 2013, at 19:53, John Clark wrote:
On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net
mailto:rclo...@verizon.net wrote:
Theism, like atheism, is unprovable.
Why is that? You're saying that even though God is omnipotent He is
On Jan 7, 6:42 pm, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 4:47 AM, socra...@bezeqint.net socra...@bezeqint.net
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Science is a religion by itself. Why?
Becouse the God can create and govern the Universe
only using physical laws, formulas, equations.
Then
On Jan 7, 7:53 pm, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote:
Theism, like atheism, is unprovable.
Why is that? You're saying that even though God is omnipotent He is
incapable of proving His existence to us. I can prove my existence
On Jan 8, 1:48 am, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 1/7/2013 10:47 AM, John Clark wrote:
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Consider God, a word for Mind
OK, I have a mind therefore I am God.
I said it before I'll say it again, for
On Jan 8, 12:42 pm, Roger Cloughrclo...@verizon.net wrote:
Hi meekerdb
Russell was a brilliant logician, but that's all he was.
Brent
To have logical mind is very good.
But our brain sometime works unconscious.
=.
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Cells make copies of themselves.
Different cells make different copies of themselves.
Cells come in all shapes and sizes.
Somehow these different cells are tied between themselves
and during pregnancy process of 9 months gradually ( ! )
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Science is a religion by itself. Why?
Becouse the God can create and govern the Universe
only using physical laws, formulas, equations.
Then God must get very board because that really doesn't leave much for
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Science is a religion by itself. Why
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Well, another writer/scientist Bernardo Kastrup considered the universe a
run, like computation, because It/He/She is not complete. Hence, our
On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
Consider God, a word for Mind
OK, I have a mind therefore I am God.
I said it before I'll say it again, for some strange reason that is unknown
to me many people are willing to abandon the idea of God but not the word
G-O-D. Those letters and in
On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote:
Theism, like atheism, is unprovable.
Why is that? You're saying that even though God is omnipotent He is
incapable of proving His existence to us. I can prove my existence to you
but God can not. That seems a bit odd to me.
John K
Becouse the God can create and govern the Universe
only using physical laws, formulas, equations.
Then God must get very board because that really doesn't leave much for Him to
do. Why do you even bother to invent Him?
John K Clark
Any eternal God would be so bored after one eternity
On 1/7/2013 10:47 AM, John Clark wrote:
On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 spudboy...@aol.com mailto:spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
Consider God, a word for Mind
OK, I have a mind therefore I am God.
I said it before I'll say it again, for some strange reason that is unknown to me many
people are willing
On 04 Jan 2013, at 17:44, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi socra...@bezeqint.net
Spirit, like life, like God, like faith, like love, and like mind,
is not extended in space
Those objects you mention are extended in space.
Like numbers, programs and other digital machines.
Well, even non digital
On 1/6/2013 10:55 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 04 Jan 2013, at 17:44, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi socra...@bezeqint.net
Spirit, like life, like God, like faith, like love, and like mind, is
not extended in space
Those objects you mention are extended in space.
Like numbers, programs and other
Roger,
I hate to keep harping on this
but aren't BECs unextended
in space, as you put it.
And if so, life and its machinery
could be embedded a BEC
even if the BEC were extended.
BECs have the kind of magical properties
that suggest that they are outside spacetime.
Richard
On Sun, Jan 6, 2013
On 04 Jan 2013, at 10:47, socra...@bezeqint.net wrote:
Science is a religion by itself.
Why?
Becouse the God can create and govern the Universe
only using physical laws, formulas, equations.
Here is the scheme of His plane.
=.
God : Ten Scientific Commandments.
§ 1. Vacuum: T=0K, E= ∞ ,p= 0,
Hi socra...@bezeqint.net
Spirit, like life, like God, like faith, like love, and like mind, is not
extended in space
Those objects you mention are extended in space.
[Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net]
1/4/2013
Forever is a long time, especially near the end. - Woody Allen
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